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Misty » 15 Jun 2017 1:47 pm » wrote: When it comes to money, the Clintons were pikers compared to this bunch.

Misty » 15 Jun 2017 1:56 pm » wrote:Haven't you been paying attention?
Looks like he was trying to obstruct the investigation into Michael Flynn.

Termin8tor » 15 Jun 2017 2:26 pm » wrote: How typical that having told months and months and months of lies, false accusations, smears and insinuations, not only do you refuse to apologize for all that, you're spreading the next Democrat Talking Point Lie.

You're a deeply ugly, demented person.

Five indicted on involuntary manslaughter charges in Flint water crisis; sixth charged with obstruction.

Charges of involuntary manslaughter related to the Flint water crisis have been slapped on five past or present state officials for their alleged “failure to act,” leading to deaths from the Legionnaires Disease outbreak of 2015.

Highest ranking among the indicted was the state’s Director of the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services, Nick Lyon. charged along with four other principals in the crisis, at a packed press conference in downtown Flint today.

The involuntary manslaughter charges, brought by State Attorney General Bill Schuette, were linked to the death of just one of the victims of the Legionnaires Disease outbreak that swept through Flint in the summer of 2015: Robert Skidmore, a GM-Fisher Body retiree, father, grandfather and great-grandfather.

Skidmore died after 15 days with Legionnaire’s in December, 2015.

Others charged with involuntary manslaughter were former Flint emergency manager Darnell Earley, former City of Flint Water Department Manager Howard Croft; Michigan Department of Environmental Quality’s Drinking Water Chief Liane Shekter-Smith and MDEQ Water Supervisor Stephen Busch.

In addition, a sixth official, Eden Wells, chief medical executive of the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services, was indicted on charges of obstruction of justice, a felony; and lying to a peace officer, labeled a “high court” misdemeanor.

The indictment alleges that during the course of the investigation, she “attempted to withhold funding for the Flint Area Community Health and Environment Partnership if the partnership did not cease its investigation” into the source of the Legionnaires outbreak.

The indictment indicated nvoluntary manslaughter is punishable by up to 15 years in prison and/or a $7,500 fine.

Of the six named today, four already had been indicted on other charges: Croft, Earley, Shekter-Smith and Busch.

Today’s actions were the first against Lyon and Wells.

Noting that many families in Flint still drink, cook and bathe in bottled water, Schuette said “The health crisis in Flint has created a ‘trust crisis’ in Michigan government, exposing a serious lack of confidence in leaders who accept responsibility and solve problems.”

Today’s charges bring to 51 the total of indictments, involving 15 current or former state officials.

Schuette characterized the process as “the most comprehensive investigation in the modern history of Michigan” and said the team had interviewed more than 250 and poured through hundreds of emails and documents.

The outbreak of Legionnaire’s which led to the deaths of 12 and struck dozens of others, has been correlated with use of improperly treated Flint River water in 2014 and 2015.

When the city went back onto Detroit water, incidences of the disease tailed off.

Once again, a familiar quartet of investigators who have worked on the case for two years appeared before the media and lights in a meeting room at the Riverfront Center in downtown Flint: Schuette; former FBI agent Andy Arena; Genesee County Prosecutor David Leyton: and former Wayne County Prosecutor Todd Flood each made statements about the latest charges.

The team issued an interim report saying that they are shifting to the trial and prosecution phase, suggesting to some that further indictments might not be expected; but Schuette said investigations would continue as the prosecution phase proceeds.

“As we shift to the trial phase, we will turn to the prosecution of those who have been charged. We are very confident the charges we have filed will hold up in court,” Schuette said.

Anticipating a likely question from the roomful of reporters, Schuette said, “Many people are asking, why aren’t you charging Gov. Snyder?

I have met with people who are angry and frustrated, demanding that I charge him.

But we only file criminal charges when evidence of probable cause of committing a crime have been established,” he said.

“This process been about one system of justice,” he added.

“Accountability and responsibility are the cornerstones of our mission, based on whether crimes have been committed — we all owe that to the citizens of Flint.”

“I don’t take this lightly,” Schuette said.

“This investigation is about the people of Flint, and nobody else.

It is time to refocus the lens on the families of Flint that are still suffering as the result of government failure.”

“This is about trust — and restoring accountability and trust to the people of Flint,” he said.

Mayor Karen Weaver, who defeated Dayne Walling in an election based intensely on the water crisis, was swamped by a scrum of reporters after the press conference.

Asked if the manslaughter charge will finally be big enough to impress upon the city that things are happening, she said, “Well I hope so, these are serious charges.

I hope this lets people know that this has been taken very seriously, and it’s not over.”

Asked by a Michigan Radio reporter, “Is this the beginning of justice?” Weaver replied, “I hope so, I hope so.”

Tim Monahan of Flint, one of the victims of Legionaires Disease in 2015 who survived, still isn’t convinced the indictments mean justice for him and the others.

Interviewed at his home near Atwood Stadium, Monahan said he still can only work three to four hours a day, is behind on all his bills, needs a new roof, and still is getting water bills for $130 a month for water he cannot drink.

He said he believes the investigation still is highly politicized by Schuette’s gubernatorial ambitions.

However, Monahan said the one piece of interesting news was the connection made in the indictments between Flint River water and Legionnaires Disease.

He said that was the first time he had heard officials admit the water crisis and the Legionnaires outbreak were connected.

Asked what he wanted to say to his fellow Flint residents in the aftermath of the indictments, Monahan said, “Keep fighting.”

Huey » 15 Jun 2017 4:02 pm » wrote:
There was obstruction. Unfortunately is was Loretta lynch. Chirp, chirp.

Termin8tor » 16 Jun 2017 8:29 am » wrote: Being a liberal means spreading any lie you want.

Like Trump "obstructing justice."

Huey » 16 Jun 2017 10:38 am » wrote: IT seemed pretty clear from Comey's testimony that there was NO obstruction. If anything, trump was encouraging the investigation.

Trump chooses family event planner to run N.Y. housing programs.

She’s arranged tournaments at Trump golf courses, served as the liaison to the Trump family during his presidential campaign, and even arranged Eric Trump’s wedding.

Now President Trump has appointed longtime loyalist Lynne Patton — who has zero housing experience and claims a law degree the school says she never earned — to run the office that oversees federal housing programs in New York.

Patton was appointed Wednesday to head up the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development’s Region II, which includes New York and New Jersey, where she’ll oversee distribution of billions of taxpayer dollars.

Patton’s tight relationship with the Trump clan dates back to 2009, when she began serving as the family’s “event planner.”

“Responsible for organizing, executing and assisting with upscale events and celebrity golf tournaments,” her LinkedIn profile says.

“Handle celebrity talent acquisition for various marketing projects, philanthropic events and golf tournaments.”

From 2011 through January, she also helped run the Eric Trump Foundation, a charity that's now under investigation by state Attorney General Eric Schneiderman.

She also claims on her LinkedIn page to have obtained a juris doctorate degree in 2000 from Quinnipiac University School of Law in Connecticut. Next to the J.D. notation is written (N/A) without explanation.

On Thursday school registrar Jim Benson said Patton attended for two semesters but did not graduate.

She also listed Yale University but HUD officials couldn’t explain why that was there.

Patton, who begins her Region II job July 5, did not return calls seeking comment.

As head of the biggest HUD regional office in the U.S., Patton will oversee distribution of billions in cash to public housing authorities — including NYCHA — as well as tens of thousands of rental vouchers and block grants that fund housing inspections and senior citizen programs.

Misty » 16 Jun 2017 12:11 pm » wrote:Zero experience in the field and a fake degree.
I guess those are the only qualifications needed to be hired by 45.

Misty » 12 Jun 2017 1:44 pm » wrote:
SAD!

Misty » 13 Jun 2017 11:18 am » wrote:
It's all about the money with this bunch.
Always follow the money.

Termin8tor » 17 Jun 2017 9:18 am » wrote: Your months of babbling about a conspiracy that didn't exist was way, way, way beond sad.

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Huey » 17 Jun 2017 12:56 pm » wrote: Yes, the state of the left, particularly Twitter Twits, is extremely sad considering so many with so little knowledge and grasp of issues have such a big voice.

Misty » 14 Jun 2017 6:46 pm » wrote:Hey guess what Puss?
Now I CAN and WILL say that 45 himself is under investigation and if you don't like it, you can blow it out your ***.

Trump Attorney: The President Is Not Under Investigation
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-h ... on-n773751

Termin8tor » 18 Jun 2017 10:08 am » wrote:Half the anonymous leaks have been outright lies, so of course you'll support them.
Psychopath.

Termin8tor » 17 Jun 2017 1:23 pm » wrote:I am constantly stunned that ignoramuses and imbeciles can have such high opinions of themselves.

Misty » 18 Jun 2017 3:25 pm » wrote: You guys are being awfully hard on the the Twitter Twit ignoramus/imbecile in the White House who has a such a high opinion of himself.

Misty » 18 Jun 2017 3:25 pm » wrote: You guys are being awfully hard on the the Twitter Twit ignoramus/imbecile in the White House who has a such a high opinion of himself.

Misty » 18 Jun 2017 3:16 pm » wrote: Yeah I saw Jay Sekulow on all the Sunday morning shows saying that, even though 45 himself Tweeted this: