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Misty » 10 Jul 2017 3:04 pm » wrote:This is from the NY Post, another 'mouth piece for the left' like the WSJ.

Obviously you don't know what a "pretext" is, Dim. '

But don't worry. After months and months and months of shoveling endless ****, you might find a crumb of evidence of something marginally wrong.

After dishonestly denying countless felonies and impeachable acts under the last two Democrat presidents.

Misty » 10 Jul 2017 3:04 pm » wrote: Much like The Tweeting Cheeto that you worship and adore, you call anything you don't like FAKE News.

Was the first hand interview that Peter Smith gave to the WSJ FAKE News too?
Is the WSJ also a 'mouth piece for the left?'

And FYI, Fredo Trump admitted that he went to the meeting because he was promised some dirt on Hillary, jackass.
The NY Times didn't make that up.

This is from the NY Post, another 'mouth piece for the left' like the WSJ.

Trump Jr. met with Russian lawyer to get dirt on Hillary: report

By Marisa Schultz
Trump Jr. met with Russian lawyer to get dirt on Hillary: report
WASHINGTON — President Trump’s eldest son was lured to a meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer with the promise of damaging information about Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton, according to a new report.

Donald Trump Jr. attended the June 9, 2016, Trump Tower meeting with Natalia Veselnitskaya, over the prospect of compromising information that Russian individuals were funding the Democratic nominee, according to the New York Times.

The Times first reported Saturday the existence of the meeting between the lawyer and Trump Jr., Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner and former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort. But new reporting suggests the motivation behind it.

Trump Jr. said the inner circle met with Veselnitskaya at the request of an acquaintance.

“After pleasantries were exchanged,” Trump Jr. said in a statement to the Times, “the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Ms. Clinton. Her statements were vague, ambiguous and made no sense. No details or supporting information was provided or even offered. It quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information.”

A spokesman for President Trump, Mark Corallo, said: “The president was not aware of and did not attend the meeting.”

Trump Jr. said the prospect of dirt on Clinton was the “pretext for the meeting” but after it began, it was clear the real agenda was policy changes that Russian President Vladimir Putin desired regarding the adoption of Russian children and the Magnitsky Act, which targets suspected human rights abusers.

White House chief of staff Reince Priebus on Sunday downplayed the meeting as a “big nothing burger” during an appearance on “Fox News Sunday.”

Huey » 10 Jul 2017 3:36 pm » wrote:Trump Jr. met with Russian lawyer to get dirt on Hillary: report

Oh my gosh, that's treason!

Oh, never mind.

Here's one lawyer's opinion:

I want to add a few thoughts...about the meeting between Donald Trump, Jr. and a Russian lawyer who said she had damaging information about Hillary Clinton. The damaging information reportedly had to do with Russian funding of the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton.

The main point I want to make is that there is nothing wrong with such a meeting and such discussions, though in this case the discussion is said never to have gotten off the ground because the Russian lawyer had nothing to offer. A campaign should never turn down the opportunity to be presented with adverse information about an opponent from any source, within the bounds of the law.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2 ... wed-up.php

Termin8tor » 10 Jul 2017 3:44 pm » wrote:Oh my gosh, that's treason!
Oh, never mind.
Here's one lawyer's opinion:

Even if that source is a hostile foreign government who anyone with an ounce of common sense would know obtained that information illegally through hacking and/or spying?

You sound like that nut on CNN Jeffrey Lord.

Misty » 10 Jul 2017 4:06 pm » wrote: Even if that source is a hostile foreign government who anyone with an ounce of common sense would know obtained that information illegally through hacking and/or spying?

How would we know this? Obama failed to do anything, warn anyone, or take action at the time of the meeting.

Just sayin....

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/ ... sia-probes

Speaking of collusion:

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton.

Kenneth P. Vogel01/11/2017 05:05 AM EST
Donald Trump wasn’t the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country.

Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/u ... ire-233446

Termin8tor » 10 Jul 2017 3:26 pm » wrote:What "wiingnut websites," psycho? I don't cite any.

How about The Gateway Pundit or Powerline blog?

Once upon a time you used to post opinion pieces from publications like The National Review and although I didn't agree with them, they were written by smart and thoughtful Conservatives.
How the mighty have fallen.

Misty » 10 Jul 2017 4:38 pm » wrote: How about The Gateway Pundit or Powerline blog?

Once upon a time you used to post opinion pieces from publications like The National Review and although I didn't agree with them, they were written by smart and thoughtful Conservatives.
How the mighty have fallen.

Anyone still using the NYT's, MSNBC, or CNN as a source really has no room to talk about the sources of others.

Misty » 10 Jul 2017 4:38 pm » wrote: How about The Gateway Pundit or Powerline blog?

Are you stupid or just lying?

Powerline is highly credible and quite cautious. Gateway is quite credible, though less cautious.


Both correct the countless mistake the corrupt MSM make and cover things the MSM try to cover up.

Neither are "wingnut."

Once upon a time you used to post opinion pieces from publications like The National Review and although I didn't agree with them, they were written by smart and thoughtful Conservatives.
How the mighty have fallen.

I still cite them, but you rejected them as wingnut, so clearly there isn't any source I can cite that you'll accept.

You play a rigged game.

Misty » 10 Jul 2017 4:38 pm » wrote: How about The Gateway Pundit or Powerline blog?

Once upon a time you used to post opinion pieces from publications like The National Review and although I didn't agree with them, they were written by smart and thoughtful Conservatives.
How the mighty have fallen.

You obviously haven't read one single thing I've cited from Powerline. At least one writer is a talented, knowledgeable attorney with excellent judgment.

And given how low standards are to become a journalist and how corrupt they have become, you're really being hilarious.

People who go into journalism aren't exactly from the top of their class, Dim.

Termin8tor » 10 Jul 2017 4:51 pm » wrote: Are you stupid or just lying?

Powerline is highly credible and quite cautious. Gateway is quite credible, though less cautious.

Both correct the countless mistake the corrupt MSM make and cover things the MSM try to cover up.

Neither are "wingnut."
I still cite them, but you rejected them as wingnut, so clearly there isn't any source I can cite that you'll accept.

You play a rigged game.

Calling them "wing nut" is snowflake code for "I have not been told what to think about that yet and I am not smart enough to understand the point".

Misty » 10 Jul 2017 4:38 pm » wrote:Once upon a time you used to post opinion pieces from publications like The National Review and although I didn't agree with them, they were written by smart and thoughtful Conservatives.
How the mighty have fallen.

From what page of the Official Troll Handbook does this come?

When I cite National Review, you rejected it as wingnut.

When I cite something else, you look back with fake affection for National Review.


Oh my, what's this?

Flashback – Clinton Allies Met With Ukrainian Govt Officials to Dig up Dirt on Trump During 2016 Election
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07 ... -election/

Should they be arrested for treason, psycho?

Termin8tor » 10 Jul 2017 4:58 pm » wrote: From what page of the Official Troll Handbook does this come?

When I cite National Review, you rejected it as wingnut.

When I cite something else, you look back with fake affection for National Review.

Oh my, what's this?
Should they be arrested for treason, psycho?

And before the spoiled princess complains about your source I will point out the story is covered by politico. I posted it earlier.

Termin8tor » 10 Jul 2017 9:20 am » wrote: I respond to most of my opponents' points.

That's a real gem. You only ignore the ones you can't answer - without ever giving ground or admitting that you can't.

Meanwhile, you screech like a bitch if someone steps over a loaded, rhetorical question, as you did recently with me, admitting in your very next post that the questions was - just as I had said and been called a lair for - RHETORICAL.

You have no dignity, clemjob.

You couldn't even defend reagan's economy in a head-to-head with carter's, ya weak puke.

Termin8tor » 10 Jul 2017 4:58 pm » wrote:Oh my, what's this? Should they be arrested for treason, psycho?

You just got done telling me that The Gateway Pundit is a credible site.

But if the piece that you cite starts with the words 'the FAKE News media' it might be from a wingnut website.

First of all I don't believe a word in that piece, but in any event, did Ukraine hack into the RNC and Trump campaign emails?
Did they plant scores of disinformation and FAKE News stories about Trump on the internet?
Did they hack into some state voter registration rolls?

Misty » 10 Jul 2017 10:37 pm » wrote: You just got done telling me that The Gateway Pundit is a credible site.

But if the piece that you cite starts with the words 'the FAKE News media' it might be from a wingnut website.

I'd call the corrupt MSM "wingnut" for falsely claiming for six or seven months that Trump was under investigation.

Yet you continue to cite them.

Why would an unbiased media spend months reporting a lie, psycho?

You'll dodge the question, like you dodge all my questions.

First of all I don't believe a word in that piece, but in any event, did Ukraine hack into the RNC and Trump campaign emails?
Did they plant scores of disinformation and FAKE News stories about Trump on the internet?
Did they hack into some state voter registration rolls?

That has nothing to do with treason you claimed that Trump's son committed.


Why are you changing the subject?

If Hillary officials met with Ukrainian officials to dig dirt on Trump, was that treason?

Donald Trump Jr. Was Told In An Email Of Russian Government Effort To Aid Trump Campaign.

In preparing to meet with a Kremlin-linked attorney during the 2016 US presidential campaign, Donald Trump Jr. was reportedly told in an email that damaging information he was expecting to receive about Hillary Clinton was part of a Russian effort to help then-candidate Donald Trump’s campaign.

A report from The New York Times on Monday night cited three people who had knowledge of the email, which the paper said was sent by Rob Goldstone, a music publicist who represents the son of a wealthy Azerbaijani-Russian developer and is friendly with the Trump family.

The three people with knowledge of the email whom The Times cited told the paper that Goldstone's message indicated Russia was the source of the damaging information.

If this is true, then it shows that Fredo Trump was perfectly willing to work (collude) with the Russian government in order to obtain damaging information about Hillary.

Cannonpointer » 10 Jul 2017 5:55 pm » wrote: That's a real gem. You only ignore the ones you can't answer - without ever giving ground or admitting that you can't.

**** off, liar.

You have no dignity, clemjob.

You couldn't even defend reagan's economy in a head-to-head with carter's, ya weak puke.

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

One raving lunatic against reality.

Misty » 10 Jul 2017 4:06 pm » wrote: Even if that source is a hostile foreign government who anyone with an ounce of common sense would know obtained that information illegally through hacking and/or spying?

You sound like that nut on CNN Jeffrey Lord.

You're obviously lacking 1/10 of an ounce of integrity. You spread lies and smears without the slightest concern for what the facts are.

Mr. Goldstone’s message, as described to The New York Times by the three people, indicates that the Russian government was the source of the potentially damaging information. It does not elaborate on the wider effort by Moscow to help the Trump campaign.

There is no evidence to suggest that the promised damaging information was related to Russian government computer hacking that led to the release of thousands of Democratic National Committee emails. The meeting took place less than a week before it was widely reported that Russian hackers had infiltrated the committee’s servers
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/us/p ... idacy.html