Receiving information isn't "colluding," psycho.Misty » 10 Jul 2017 10:59 pm » wrote:If this is true, then it shows that Fredo Trump was perfectly willing to work (collude) with the Russian government in order to obtain damaging information about Hillary.
That nothingburger seems to be packed with protein.Read the Emails on Donald Trump Jr.’s Russia Meeting
On Tuesday morning, after being told that The Times was about to publish the content of emails setting up a meeting with a Kremlin-connected lawyer, Donald J. Trump Jr. posted the email chain on Twitter, along with a comment.
The emails, from June 2016, are between Donald Trump Jr. and Rob Goldstone, a British-born former tabloid reporter and entertainment publicist.
Mr. Goldstone told Donald J. Trump Jr. that he was writing on behalf of a mutual friend, one of Russia’s biggest pop music stars, Emin Agalarov.
The emails were posted as images and were not in the order that they were written.
The text of the emails is presented here, in chronological order.
On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Rob Goldstone wrote:
Good morning
Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.
The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.
Best
Rob Goldstone
On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:53, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:
Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?
Best,
Don
From: Rob Goldstone
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 12:40 PM
To: Donald Trump J
Subject: Re: Russia - Clinton - private and confidential
Hi Don
Let me know when you are free to talk with Emin by phone about this Hillary info - you had mentioned early this week so wanted to try to schedule a time and day Best to you and family Rob Goldstone
On Jun 6, 2016, at 15:03, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:
Rob could we speak now?
d
From: Rob Goldstone
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 3:37 PM
To: Donald Trump Jr.
Subject: Re: Russia - Clinton - private and confidential
Let me track him down in Moscow
What number he could call?
On Jun 6, 2016, at 15:38, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:
My cell [REDACTED] thanks
d
On Jun 6, 2016, at 3:43 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote:
Ok he's on stage in Moscow but should be off within 20 Minutes so I am sure can call Rob
On Jun 6, 2016, at 16:38, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:
Rob thanks for the help.
D
On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote:
Don
Hope all is well
Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday.
I believe you are aware of the meeting - and so wondered if 3pm or later on Thursday works for you?
I assume it would be at your office.
Best
Rob Goldstone
On Jun 7, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:
How about 3 at our offices? Thanks rob appreciate you helping set it up.
D
On Jun 7, 2016, at 5:19 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote:
Perfect won't sit in on the meeting, but will bring them at 3pm and introduce you etc.
I will send the names of the two people meeting with you for security when I have them later today.
best
Rob
On Jun 7, 2016, at 18:14, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:
Great. It will likely be Paul Manafort (campaign boss) my brother in law and me, 725 Fifth Ave 25th floor.
From: Rob Goldstone
Sent: Wednesday June 08, 2016 10:34 AM
To: Donald Trump Jr.
Subject: Re: Russia - Clinton - private and confidential
Good morning
Would it be possible to move tomorrow meeting to 4pm as the Russian attorney is in court until 3 i was just informed.
Best
Rob
On Jun 8, 2016, at 11:15, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:
Yes Rob I could do that unless they wanted to do 3 today instead... just let me know and ill lock it in either way.
d
From: Rob Goldstone
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:18 AM
To: Donald Trump Jr.
Subject: Re: Russia - Clinton - private and confidential
They can't do today as she hasn't landed yet from Moscow 4pm is great tomorrow.
Best
Rob
From: Donald Trump Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 12:03 PM
To: Jared Kushner, Paul Manafort
Subject: FW: Russia - Clinton - private and confidential
Meeting got moved to 4 tomorrow at my offices.
Best,
Don
What does this moonbat have? Drips.Misty » 11 Jul 2017 1:29 pm » wrote:Drip...drip...drip....
And the rolling disclosure continues.
That nothingburger seems to be packed with protein.
Termin8tor » 11 Jul 2017 1:14 pm » wrote:Receiving information isn't "colluding," psycho.
Consult an attorney. Then consult a psychiatrist.
Wow, this has to be a huge, huge scandal.Misty » 11 Jul 2017 1:29 pm » wrote:Drip...drip...drip....
And the rolling disclosure continues.
That nothingburger seems to be packed with protein.
There is no evidenceto suggest that the promised damaging information was related to Russian government computer hacking that led to the release of thousands of Democratic National Committee emails. The meeting took place less than a week before it was widely reported that Russian hackers had infiltrated the committee’s servers.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2 ... lusion.php
Don't be too tough on her. She will end off spending another few weeks locked in her safe place with kleenex and cocoa..Termin8tor » 11 Jul 2017 1:44 pm » wrote: Wow, this has to be a huge, huge scandal.![]()
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From your own source, the NYSlimes.
Yawn!Misty » 11 Jul 2017 1:58 pm » wrote:20 times Team Trump denied any connections to or contacts with Russia
July 9, 2016
Donald Trump Jr. met with a Russian national to get damaging information about Hillary Clinton, according to the New York Times.
July 24, 2016
Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, appearing on ABC’s This Week, is asked by host George Stephanopoulos whether there are any connections between the Trump campaign and Russia or its president. “No, there are not,” he said. “That’s absurd. And you know, there’s no basis to it.”
July 24, 2016
CNN’s Jake Tapper asked Donald Trump Jr. about Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook’s accusation of Russian meddling in the DNC hacks. Trump Jr. responded:
Well it just goes to show you their exact moral compass. They’ll say anything to be able to win this. This is time and time again, lie after lie, you notice he won’t say, ‘well I say this’ — ‘we hear experts’, his housecat at home once said that this is what’s happening with the Russians. It’s disgusting, it’s so phony… I can’t think of bigger lies…
He later said he wanted his father to be president because “it’s not going to be about divisive politics, emails, accusing people of working with the Russian government.”
July 27, 2016
“I can tell you I think if I came up with that they’d say, ‘Oh, it’s a conspiracy theory, it’s ridiculous,’” Trump told a Miami-based CBS affiliate when asked about the idea that Russians were trying to help him get elected.
“I mean I have nothing to do with Russia. I don’t have any jobs in Russia. I’m all over the world but we’re not involved in Russia.”
October 24, 2016
Trump told a rally in Florida that he had “nothing to do with Russia, folks. I’ll give you a written statement.”
November 11, 2016
In a statement responding to Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov’s interview with Interfax that “there were contacts” with Trump’s team, campaign spokesperson Hope Hicks said, “It never happened. There was no communication between the campaign and any foreign entity during the campaign.”
December 18, 2016
Trump’s final campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, stated with categorical certitude that no one involved with the Trump campaign had any contact with Russians trying to influence the election.
JOHN DICKERSON: All right. We are not going to get any insight into the president-elect’s thinking here, but let me try this. Did anyone involved in the Trump campaign have any contact with Russians trying to meddle with the election?
KELLYANNE CONWAY: Absolutely not. And I discussed that with the president-elect just last night. Those conversations never happened. I hear people saying it like it’s a fact on television. That is just not only inaccurate and false, but it’s dangerous.
January 15, 2017
ABC’s John Dickerson asked then Vice President-elect Mike Pence, “Did any adviser or anybody in the Trump campaign have any contact with the Russians who were trying to meddle in the elections?”
“Well of course not,” Pence replied. “I think to suggest that is to give credence to some of these bizarre rumors that have swirled around the candidacy.
January 15, 2017
Pence also denied there had been any contact between Trump associates and anyone associated with the Kremlin, and questioned why such contacts would take place, in an interview on Fox News.
WALLACE: I’m asking a direct question: Was there any contact in any way between Trump or his associates and the Kremlin or cutouts they had?
PENCE: I joined this campaign in the summer, and I can tell you that all the contact by the Trump campaign and associates was with the American people. We were fully engaged with taking his message to make America great again all across this country. That’s why he won in a landslide election.
WALLACE: — if there were any contacts, sir, I’m just trying to get an answer.
PENCE: Yes. I — of course not. Why would there be any contacts between the campaign? Chris, the — this is all a distraction, and it’s all part of a narrative to delegitimize the election and to question the legitimacy of this presidency. The American people see right through it.
February 7, 2017
Trump tweeted that he had no deals in Russia.
Feb. 14, 2017
ABC’s Jonathan Karl asked White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer whether he could “say definitively that nobody on the Trump campaign, not even General Flynn, had any contact with the Russians before the election?”
Spicer replied: “My understanding is that what General Flynn has now expressed is that during the transition period — well, we were very clear that during the transition period, he did speak with the ambassador…” Karl, following up, reiterated to clarify that the question was about “during the campaign.”
Spicer said, “I don’t have any … there’s nothing that would conclude me … that anything different has changed with respect to that time period.”
February 16, 2017
Trump again calls allegations of Russian collusion and election interference “fake news.”
Feb. 19, 2017
Reince Priebus, White House chief of staff, gave a blanket “no” when asked by Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday whether the Trump team had any connections with Moscow.
Priebus went on later in the interview to add: “Let me give you an example. First of all, The New York Times put out an article with no direct sources that said that the Trump campaign had constant contacts with Russian spies, basically, you know, some treasonous type of accusations.
We have now all kinds of people looking into this. I can assure you and I have been approved to say this — that the top levels of the intelligence community have assured me that that story is not only inaccurate, but it’s grossly overstated and it was wrong. And there’s nothing to it.”
Feb. 20, 2017
Deputy Press Secretary Sarah Sanders repeated the denial during a press briefing that the Trump campaign had no contacts with Russian officials during the campaign. “This is a non-story because to the best of our knowledge, no contacts took place, so it’s hard to make a comment on something that never happened.”
February 24, 2017
Spicer was asked at another press conference about how the White House could better explain whether “the President has an improper relationship with Russia?”
Spicer replied: “Well, again, there are no connections to find out about. That’s the problem. I think, A, he’s answered it forcefully. You can’t disprove something that doesn’t exist. He’s talked about the fact how many times he’s talked to Putin. He has no interests in Russia. He has no — there’s only so many times he can deny something that doesn’t exist.”
February 26, 2017
Trump again calls allegations of Russian collusion and election interference “fake news.”
February 27, 2017
Spicer was asked in a press conference, “Can you not categorically deny there were no contacts between the Russians and anybody on the campaign?”
He began his answer by saying, “I can’t deny — I can’t — I guess my question is…”
The reporter clarified that “That’s what the investigation would look at.”
Spicer then attempted to reference other investigations to argue that there were no newsworthy connections between the Russians and Trump’s team:
Right. And I guess my point is, is that you’ve had the intelligence community look at Russia’s involvement in the election. You had the House and Senate both do the same. And so what I’m trying to ascertain is that at what point — how many people have to say that there’s nothing there before you realize there’s nothing there?
I can’t say unequivocally — all I’m saying is, the people who have done the investigating about Russia overall and its activities in the United States, specifically now with respect to our election, haven’t provided anything that leads me to believe or should lead you to believe — and I continue to see reports coming from — there were media sources saying when they checked in with law enforcement, or intelligence community sources, there’s nothing more than has been previously reported over and over again. So, at some point, you do have to ask yourself, what are you actually looking for? How many times do you have to come to the same conclusion before you take the answer?
March 2017
“Did I meet with people that were Russian? I’m sure, I’m sure I did,” Trump Jr. said in a March interview, according to the New York Times.
“But none that were set up. None that I can think of at the moment.
And certainly none that I was representing the campaign in any way, shape or form.”
May 8, 2017
Trump called the collusion story “a total hoax.”
May 11, 2017
Trump asserted he had “nothing to do with Russia” during his famous interview with NBC’s Lester Holt.
“I have had dealings over the years where I sold a house to a very wealthy Russian many years ago.
I had the Miss Universe pageant — which I owned for quite a while — I had it in Moscow a long time ago. But other than that, I have nothing to do with Russia,” Trump said.
He also explained his decision to fire FBI Director James Comey came about “When I decided to just do it I said to myself, I said, ‘You know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story.’”
Naaah, she's too busy lying, smearing and babbling to care that she's wrong.Huey » 11 Jul 2017 1:52 pm » wrote:
Don't be too tough on her. She will end off spending another few weeks locked in her safe place with kleenex and cocoa..
As if voluminous **** provides evidence of anything, psycho.
There is
no evidence
to suggest that the promised damaging information was related to Russian government computer hacking that led to the release of thousands of Democratic National Committee emails. The meeting took place less than a week before it was widely reported that Russian hackers had infiltrated the committee’s servers.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2 ... lusion.php
It doesn't have to have anything to do with the hacking you jackass.Termin8tor » 11 Jul 2017 1:44 pm » wrote:Wow, this has to be a huge, huge scandal.![]()
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From your own source, the NYSlimes.
Fredo thought that he was going to that meeting to obtain some oppo research on HRC.A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.
A solicitation is an oral or written communication that, construed as reasonably understood in the context in which it is made, contains a clear message asking, requesting, or recommending that another person make a contribution, donation, transfer of funds, or otherwise provide anything of value.
Evidence please? Not your spin, not what you parrot. Again, you are getting **** in that rather large *** of yours by the MSM. What has been released to this point does not support any of your parroted accusations.Misty » 11 Jul 2017 2:11 pm » wrote: It doesn't have to have anything to do with the hacking you jackass.
52 USC 30121, 36 USC 510 — the law governing foreign contributions to US campaigns states that:
Fredo thought that he was going to that meeting to obtain some oppo research on HRC.
Oppo research is a thing of value.
Campaigns pay big money for it.
It looks like a case could be made that Fredo broke campaign finance laws.Donald Trump Jr. likely committed a federal offense: experts say.
After Donald Trump Jr. tweeted the chain of his own emails with British publicist Rob Goldstone, the intermediary for a meeting where top Trump campaign officials intended to receive damaging information on Hillary Clinton from the hands of the Russian government, experts are saying it could get him prosecuted.
“This is smoking gun evidence of collusion,” Paul Butler, a Georgetown law professor and former prosecutor said on MSNBC on Tuesday.
“Collusion itself is not a crime, what is a federal offense is soliciting a campaign contribution from a foreign national — like a Russian government operative,” he explained.
He added that contributions do not have to necessarily come in the form of money, saying it’s defined in the statute as “anything of value.”
“So it could be money, but it’s also a service like opposition research, like dirt on Hillary Clinton.
So right now, at this moment, there is probable cause to charge Donald Trump Jr. with a federal offense,” Butler added.
In a Washington Post article on Monday, a top campaign lawyer with top Washington, D.C. law firm Perkins Coie explained shared a similar take on the matter as Butler’s:
Experts seem to be near-unanimous agreement when it comes to the president’s son likely committing a crime.
It’s still not clear, however, if the others in attendance, campaign chair Paul Manafort and current senior adviser Jared Kushner, had prior knowledge of the context of the meeting.
But regardless of whether or not information was handed over, or in any way produced during the meeting, there is certainly room for probable cause of federal offenses.
“The most important legal issue raised by these revelations actually goes to the question where collusion might be criminal under campaign finance law,” Ryan Goodman, a former Defense Department special counsel and current editor of the legal site Just Security, told Vox.
“Even if the meeting didn’t produce anything … solicitation itself is the offense,” he added.
Former Watergate prosecutor, Nick Ackerman, said the emails are “almost a smoking cannon.”
Then added that “there’s almost no question this is treason.”
However, treason is “the only crime specifically outlined in the Constitution, granting Congress the power to prohibit treason as it sees fit,” according to Axios.
Prosecutions of treason are very rare, and convictions of treason even more so.
Whatever crimes the president’s son committed, it would still likely fall short of meeting the correct parameters for treason.
Sounds smart
Well gosh, I hope not, because those months and months of accusations and insinuations you made were ****.Misty » 11 Jul 2017 2:11 pm » wrote: It doesn't have to have anything to do with the hacking you jackass.
52 USC 30121, 36 USC 510 — the law governing foreign contributions to US campaigns states that:
Fredo thought that he was going to that meeting to obtain some oppo research on HRC.
Oppo research is a thing of value.
Campaigns pay big money for it.
Misty » 11 Jul 2017 3:22 pm » wrote: It looks like a case could be made that Fredo broke campaign finance laws.
New York Times story triggered the release of Trump Jr. emails.
Donald Trump Jr. said he released damaging emails about meeting "a Russian government attorney" to be "totally transparent."
The real story is more complicated -- and, it seems, more self-serving.
The New York Times had already reviewed copies of the emails and asked Trump Jr. to comment when he decided to tweet out pictures of the email exchange.
Trump Jr.'s tweets came out, seemingly out of nowhere, at 11 a.m. ET on Tuesday.
By then, the Times was already on the verge of publishing.
The newsroom already had a full story ready to go, so it hit publish a few minutes later.
A news alert sent by the paper came out at 11:10 a.m.
Staffers at the Times confirmed that they believe Trump Jr.'s release was triggered by their reporting.
"@DonaldJTrumpJr posted these emails after being informed that The New York Times was doing a story on them," deputy managing editor Clifford Levy tweeted.
Pink slime.Misty » 11 Jul 2017 1:29 pm » wrote:Drip...drip...drip....
And the rolling disclosure continues.
That nothingburger seems to be packed with protein.
Misty » 11 Jul 2017 3:41 pm » wrote:Fredo says he put out his emails in an effort to be transparent.
His daddy applauded his son's transparency.
All of this newly found effort to be transparent came just before Fredo learned that the NY Times was about to publish a story reporting on the content of the emails.
Oh, I know.