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Termin8tor » 16 Jul 2017 1:37 pm » wrote:Smith has long struck me as a liberal who often lacks objectivity.
I never once recall him expressing the same outrage when Obama and officials lied through their teeth on many, many issues.
I don't want him fired, but I don't mind a little pushback.

roadkill » 16 Jul 2017 1:47 pm » wrote: I offered Misty the option of who's guilty gets the blame.

She turned me down.

Misty » 16 Jul 2017 1:49 pm » wrote: Look at you pretending that Obama officials lied nearly as much as this administration does.

This nasty habit you have of labeling anyone who dares to criticize this president a 'Liberal' is starting to crumble around you.

More and more Conservatives are starting to turn on him.
See my post #13284

http://liberalforum.net/viewtopic.php?f ... 80#p923543

roadkill » 16 Jul 2017 1:47 pm » wrote:I offered Misty the option of who's guilty gets the blame.
She turned me down.

Misty » 16 Jul 2017 2:02 pm » wrote: Huey can't seem to grasp the concept that the reason I don't enter into any debates with him is that I have him on ignore and don't read his posts.

This is a bogus meme, but it may as well be true.
He sure pulled one over on all of you.

Huey » 08 May 2017 6:59 pm » wrote: (f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

Additionally, none of the EOs mention any specific nationality, race, religion, etc. it References the list of countries that OBAMA put together that he said were countries of particular concern.

Huey » 13 Mar 2017 12:26 pm » wrote: Again, that is a false statement.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/vol ... 0acec023fb

In December of the year in question Reid took two separate bills and merged them together then gave members 6 DAYS to read it. With that said I (1) am not sold on this replacement bill and (2) do not want it to follow the same rush that Obamacare was subject to.

Misty » 16 Jul 2017 2:02 pm » wrote: Huey can't seem to grasp the concept that the reason I don't enter into any debates with him is that I have him on ignore and don't read his posts.

This is a bogus meme, but it may as well be true.
He sure pulled one over on all of you.

Misty » 16 Jul 2017 1:39 pm » wrote:Most leftists have fled this forum because they are tired of dealing with a bunch of brainwashed Trump Davidians who act like cult members with their own set of facts.

I haven't left, but I spend most of time here in my own threads and rarely venture out into the cesspool that you Trumplodytes have made of this forum.

Misty » 16 Jul 2017 2:02 pm » wrote:Huey can't seem to grasp the concept that the reason I don't enter into any debates with him is that I have him on ignore and don't read his posts.

Misty » 16 Jul 2017 1:49 pm » wrote: Look at you pretending that Obama officials lied nearly as much as this administration does.

Huey » 16 Jul 2017 1:45 pm » wrote: I have attempted to debate everything from HC to immigration policy with the wench. She is good for a biased talking point article or too then she slings ****. The cries victim. It is quite funny.

And the proof is on this thread.

Termin8tor » 16 Jul 2017 2:35 pm » wrote:You know you have her on the ropes when you ask a crucial question, and she answers with a stupid cartoon.
Or offer a hugely important fact or point, and she refuses to respond.
If she's not a psychopath, she certainly does a wonderful impression of one.

Misty » 16 Jul 2017 2:46 pm » wrote: How I picture you two in my mind.

Misty » 16 Jul 2017 2:46 pm » wrote: How I picture you two in my mind.

Misty » 16 Jul 2017 2:39 pm » wrote:Brian Stelter: "Why should we believe what they say now?

The ‘Democratic Plot’ Conspiracy Theory About Trump Jr. Meeting Is So Dumb It’s Hilarious

It’s hard to fathom how reasonably intelligent people fall into the trap of believing the most ridiculous of stories. Dr. Theodore Woodward came up with the aphorism, “When you hear hoofbeats, think of horses, not zebras.”

It was a warning to medical students who want to believe the common cold is an exotic disease.

Law enforcement uses the phrase as well.

The solution to a crime is usually the simplest explanation, not a twisted web of events.

The meeting Donald Trump Jr. put together in June 2016 with a Russian lawyer stinks to high heaven.

The straw man argument that it’s “no big deal” because it wasn’t illegal is similar to talk I heard from Clinton defenders in the 1990’s.

Caught with their hands in the cookie jar, supporters of Bill and Hillary Clinton argued what they may have been immoral, but it didn’t matter because it was not illegal.

Whether it was illegal or not, is irrelevant.

The fact is, Donald Trump Jr. was happy to meet with people he thought might have connections to the Russian government and who had information damaging to Hillary Clinton.

Trump Jr. didn’t care and that makes what he did, at the very least, sleazy.

However, since the news broke, Trump defenders have engaged in mental gymnastics that not even Ripley would believe.

Convinced the meeting was nothing but a setup by Democrats, their delusion grows deeper day by day to the point where Alex Jones is giggling at the absurdity of it all.

The basic premise of their theory is Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, worked with Fusion GPS, the opposition research company who helped put together the infamous Trump dossier working with former British intelligence officer, Richard Steele.

Veselnitskaya accomplished this in part due to the efforts of the Obama administration’s justice department who allowed Veselnitskaya to enter the country, despite an earlier denial of a visa.

Also at the meeting was Rinat Akhmetshin, another person with a shady past with ties to Fusion GPS.

Trump supporters believe the meeting was set up with the implicit purpose of using it to damage the Trump campaign and make it appear as though they were in bed with the Kremlin.

Are you dizzy yet from the gymnastics?

To believe this fiction requires one must first accept the Obama justice department knew in 2015 that Trump would be the eventual GOP nominee and therefore allowed Natalia Veselnitskaya into the country despite a visa denial to get the ball rolling on the plot.

Second, the meeting was set up by Democratic operatives and Russians working on their behalf as a means of furthering the narrative Trump was under the influence of the Kremlin and Vladimir Putin.

I’m sorry but in June of 2016?

That narrative had not even taken hold.

Wikileaks hadn’t even published the DNC emails at this point.

That didn’t happen until the following month.

Finally, the big question to ask is this: Why wasn’t this information leaked before the election?

Trump supporters argue it didn’t get leaked because they were certain Hillary would win. Huh?

They went through the trouble of setting up a meeting to further a narrative about Trump yet didn’t leak it to the press because they didn’t think Trump would win?

On what planet does this make any sense?

Granted, Democrats excel in incompetence, but nobody is that incompetent.

Trump supporters selling this snake oil want you to believe a conversation like this went down:

“Hey, Lynch allowed that lawyer to stay in the country.”

“Okay, good. It’s October 2015. Let’s try and get this meeting set up with Fredo in June of next year.”

“Got it. When completed, how long do we wait to leak it to the press?”

“Why would we do that?”

“To damage the Trump campaign.”

“We don’t need to do that. Hillary is going to win easily.”

“So why are we doing it?”

“Well, based on the off-chance that Trump by some miracle, does win, we can release it down the road.

It will play into the narrative Putin controlled the Trump campaign.”

“That’s a narrative?”

“It will be a year after this conversation takes place.”

“Okay, how about this? If Trump wins, we’ll release it July of 2017.

It’s the middle of summer. Nobody is paying attention to politics. People are wrapping up their summer vacations. What do you think?”

“That’s perfect! They’ll never suspect anything!”

For the sake of all that is holy, why can’t Trump supporters just admit that Trump Jr. cared only about getting damaging info about Hillary Clinton and didn’t much care who had the information?

There are those on the anti-Trump side making the silly argument the meeting amounted to an “in-kind” contribution to the campaign and since it involved foreign nationals, those contributions are illegal.

That is also ridiculous.

But please, people, spare us the goofball conspiracies, ok?

Misty » 16 Jul 2017 3:03 pm » wrote:More comments from the right.

Misty » 16 Jul 2017 2:10 pm » wrote:You have been huffing and puffing for years about all of the so-called crimes committed by the Clintons and Obama, but you have yet to cite one specific law that they broke.

Oh, I know you have cited them many times before........yadda, yadda, yadda.