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Misty » 16 Jul 2017 12:53 pm » wrote:Conservative writers who were trying to give the president the benefit of the doubt are starting to turn.

Misty » 16 Jul 2017 1:04 pm » wrote:Hillary is gone.
She's toast.

You need to deal with the cluster **** of a dumpster fire taking place at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
But you can't so it's, "Hey Look! A Squirrel!

Few Americans are newly convinced that Trump Jr.’s meeting illustrates collusion

A Post-ABC News poll finds that most Americans think his meeting was inappropriate — not quite the “smoking gun” that Trump opponents had hoped.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pol ... collusion/

Misty » 16 Jul 2017 1:39 pm » wrote:Most leftists have fled this forum because they are tired of dealing with a bunch of brainwashed Trump Davidians who act like cult members with their own set of facts.

Under the interpretation the anti-Trumpers seek, no member of a campaign could seek information from any foreign national, Russian, British, Canadian or Fijian.


Now, that's unhinged.
http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/201 ... sions.html

Termin8tor » 17 Jul 2017 10:17 am » wrote: Speaking of "cultists with their own set of facts," you claimed that receiving information from a foreign government was illegal because it is "something of value."

Aside from the fact that the law explicitly allows that, there's this:

Sgt Bilko » 17 Jul 2017 10:22 am » wrote: You shouldn't disillusion Misty this way. She needs her delusions to remain sane, if you can call living in a delusion sane!!!

Huey » 17 Jul 2017 11:14 am » wrote: She is just a victim. As usual

Termin8tor » 17 Jul 2017 11:52 am » wrote: Yeah, a "victim" who pounds conservative public figures and board conservatives with a tire iron and a chain.

Huey » 17 Jul 2017 11:59 am » wrote:Misty refuses to acknowledge she is a victim of her own ****. She Blames everyone else.

Sean Spicer: No reason to believe Don Jr.’s Russian meeting was about anything other than adoptions.

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer asserted on Monday that Donald Trump Jr.’s meeting with Russians during the 2016 election season was only about adoptions — although emails suggest otherwise.

In an off-camera briefing, Spicer was asked about the recent revelations that President Donald Trump’s son met with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya to obtain damaging information about Hillary Clinton.

According to reporters who attended the briefing, Spicer insisted that the meeting had only been about Magnitsky Act sanctions against Russia, which prompted President Vladimir Putin to halt all Russian adoptions for parents in the U.S.

“There was nothing as far as we know that would lead anyone to believe” they discussed another other than the Magnitsky Act, Spicer reportedly said.

But email records released last week showed that Trump Jr. had reason to believe that Russia could provide damaging information about the Democratic nominee.

Termin8tor » 17 Jul 2017 2:25 pm » wrote:I confess.
It's my fault she's a psychopathic liar.

Misty » 17 Jul 2017 2:48 pm » wrote: Little Huey and Clemmo the demented clown.

Misty » 17 Jul 2017 2:48 pm » wrote: Little Huey and Clemmo the demented clown.

Termin8tor » 16 Jul 2017 8:22 am » wrote:Where's your outrage over the HRC campaign's collaboration with Ukraine, psycho?

When Democrats do the same, you don't care one bit.

Trump and Russia, Clinton and Ukraine: How do they compare?

Politico reporters said that top Ukrainian diplomats deny any interference, but they cited a former Ukrainian embassy staffer who said that he had been told to "research connections between Trump, Manafort and Russia."

He said he coordinated with the key person in the Politico story, a Ukrainian-American consultant to the DNC named Alexandra Chalupa.

Chalupa told Politico that she took it on herself to dig into Manafort’s past and reached out to the embassy.

She had a network of sources in Washington and Ukraine, and as she learned things, she would sometimes share them with colleagues at the DNC.

By the summer of 2016, more and more journalists were interested in Manafort, and Chalupa said she and people at the embassy would guide them in the right direction.

If the broad outlines are similar, some key elements distinguish these episodes from each other.

The Politico article highlighted a major one.

"Russia’s effort was personally directed by Russian President Vladimir Putin (and) involved the country’s military and foreign intelligence services," the article said. "There’s little evidence of such a top-down effort by Ukraine."

So, according to American intelligence agencies, the Kremlin shaped and directed the email hacking of Democrats and subsequent distribution. In contrast, a variety of actors on the Ukrainian side responded to American queries and provided public documents.

Which leads to the other big distinction: The Russians got their materials through cyber-attacks, while the only telling document revealed by a Ukrainian lawmaker was the product of an official investigation.

"There’s a difference between dealing with the embassy and dealing with a covert intelligence operation," Wittes said. "Are you dealing with government records, or are you dealing in stolen dirt?"

To be clear, we do not know if the hacked emails had any ties to contacts the Trump campaign did or didn’t have with Russians. But hacked emails are different from the results of a public investigation.

Taking that difference one step further, there was nothing inherently illegal in the quest for information on Manafort and how that might link Donald Trump to Russia. Wittes noted that from a research perspective, since Manafort’s work took place in Ukraine, "you pretty much have to go to the Ukrainians to get that."

Other details also separate the two narratives.

Ukraine is seen as an ally to the United States, while Russia is at best a competitor and often called an enemy.

Termin8tor » 17 Jul 2017 10:09 am » wrote:Hillary isn't gone; she's running for president again......

Termin8tor » 16 Jul 2017 8:24 am » wrote:Obama's entire presidency was stupid, Dim.
Eight years of vast damage to the country by a closet leftist.

Termin8tor » 17 Jul 2017 11:52 am » wrote:Yeah, a "victim" who pounds conservative public figures and board conservatives with a tire iron and a chain.

Misty » 17 Jul 2017 4:10 pm » wrote: I would be outraged if that had happened, but it didn't.

No one from the Clinton campaign ever met with anyone from the government of Ukraine.

Misty » 17 Jul 2017 4:18 pm » wrote: Don't worry Pumpkin.
The Terror of Twitter is on the job.
He's going to make everything just perfect.
There will be so much winning, we're going to get tired of winning.

Termin8tor » 17 Jul 2017 4:31 pm » wrote:I have cited extensive evidence of how horrific the Obama Recovery was; worst since WWII or longer.
Every single one of his policies was economically destructive, other than a minor free trade bill with Colombia.
And I have cited extensive evidence about how good Trump's policies are.
You ignore all of it, or simply lie.
Big surprise.

Misty » 17 Jul 2017 4:52 pm » wrote:
No one needs to cite any evidence that you are brainwashed sycophant and a political hack.
It's quite obvious.