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Termin8tor » 18 Jul 2017 10:47 am » wrote: It's the scandal of the decade, no, of the century! that Trump is visiting his properties.

It makes Clinton's felonies and impeachable acts look like nothing.

Nevada GOP official tweets article calling for McCain's death.

Diana Orrock, the Republican national committeewoman for Nevada, shared an article on Monday calling for the death of Sen. John McCain for his hawkish foreign policy views.

"Amen," Orrock wrote in a now-deleted tweet sharing a post on Medium titled "Please Just F***ing Die Already."



CNN reached out to Orrock, who said she was not a "big fan" of McCain's approach to foreign policy.

However, she denied actually wanting McCain to die and claimed she was agreeing with the "sentiments" of the article.

The article's author made clear it was a literal call for McCain's death, saying at one point, "If you're waiting for the part where I say I'm just kidding and would never wish death on anybody, please allow me to make myself clear: I sincerely, genuinely hope that Arizona Senator John McCain's heart stops beating, and that he is subsequently declared dead by qualified medical professionals very soon."

Nevertheless, Orrock repeated she did not want McCain to die, but rather that he just not be in the Senate, and said it would be reaching to say otherwise about her.

"People are going to read things into things," Orrock said of her sharing the article calling for the senator's death.

Misty » 18 Jul 2017 12:21 pm » wrote:collusion!

It Was Always About the Money - Russia and the Trumps: A Grift Story.

It was always about the money.

The reason we never saw the tax returns was because of what they would show about the money.

The reason we can't get a straight answer about the family's dealings with the Russians is the money.

Preet Bharara got fired because of the money and how the money had been allegedly laundered.

James Comey got fired because of the money.

Without the money, specifically the money from Russia, the Trump empire likely would have collapsed under a hail of writs and the paterfamilias would have been rendered invisible, even in the mirrors of Mar-a-Lago.

It always was about the money.

The meeting on June 6, 2016 ultimately was about the money, as we learned today from CNN.

The network reported that it had identified the eighth participant in that now-famous Trump Tower confab.

Contrary to the previous load of hooey dispensed by Junior and the first family, this dude was not a translator. I am sure that, like most wealthy Russians in the Putin era, old Ike there is on the up and up.

Let's go to the phones.

Here's Ray from The New York Times:
It's hard to believe that Junior wanted this guy's name kept out of the stories, especially now that, as the guy's attorney says, Robert Mueller has come knock, knock, knocking at the door.

(Sarah Kendizor, whose electric Twitter machine account is an essential follow on this stuff, has even more about Ike, including Ike's complaint that the money-laundering probe was a "witch hunt." These guys need new material.)

The fact is that the president* was never as rich as he said he was, a circumstance that was of outsized importance to nobody except his own narcissistic self.

(I don't think it would have changed a single vote if it had been revealed that he wasn't as rich as he was saying he was.)

He did, however, always have an outsized sense of himself in the world.

He had to keep acquiring to stay true to his self-image.

I believe the collision between these two factors left him with no options to obtain loans except overseas, and the Russian money was easy money.

Then he got elected president and it all unraveled.

Future historians are going to read this stuff and get out of the business.

Misty » 18 Jul 2017 2:58 pm » wrote:That's what I keep saying.

Termin8tor » 18 Jul 2017 12:30 pm » wrote:I mean, it's just terribly morally reprehensible that Donald Jr. sought information about Clinton campaign crimes, right?

8th person at Trump Tower meeting identified.

The eighth person who attended the June 2016 meeting with Donald Trump Jr. at Trump Tower is a senior vice president at the company founded by the Russian oligarch who initiated the meeting, CNN has learned.

Ike Kaveladze's identity was confirmed by his attorney, Scott Balber.

Laundering Of Money Seen as 'Easy'

A Congressional inquiry has found that it is ''relatively easy'' for foreigners to hide their identities and form shell companies here that can launder money through American banks.

In a a nine-month inquiry that subpoenaed bank records, the investigators found that an unknown number of Russians and other East Europeans moved more than $1.4 billion through accounts at Citibank of New York and the Commercial Bank of San Francisco.

The accounts had been opened by Irakly (Ike) Kaveladze, who immigrated to the United States from Russia in 1991, according to Citibank and Mr. Kaveladze.

He set up more than 2,000 corporations in Delaware for Russian brokers and then opened the bank accounts for them, without knowing who owned the corporations, according to the report by the General Accounting Office, which has not been made public.

The report said the banks had failed to conduct any ''due diligence'' into identifying the owners of the accounts.

Late this afternoon, Citibank sent a 15-page letter to the G.A.O., saying that it had closed the accounts after being contacted by G.A.O. investigators earlier this year.

roadkill » 18 Jul 2017 3:00 pm » wrote:"That's what I keep saying."
Like the uranium deal that netted Hillary $145 Million?
I found something you "don't keep saying".

roadkill » 18 Jul 2017 3:00 pm » wrote:P.S. Your siggy is ironic.

Termin8tor » 18 Jul 2017 12:30 pm » wrote:Have you got an actual crime to point to yet, Dim?

Misty » 18 Jul 2017 3:09 pm » wrote: He sought info about the Clinton campaign from a notorious money launderer?

And yes, it is morally reprehensible that he sought info from a foreign government and an adversary at that.

Misty » 18 Jul 2017 3:17 pm » wrote: Yes. The people like you who voted for this dumpster fire should all be arrested for treason.

I mean, it's just terribly morally reprehensible that Donald Jr. sought information about Clinton campaign crimes, right?

A long, long, long pattern of criminal activity by the deeply corrupt Clinton's.

What doesn't little Miss Marxist care about? The crimes.

Misty » 18 Jul 2017 2:58 pm » wrote:That's what I keep saying.

Let's outline Trump's achievements during his first six months in office.

President Donald Trump's first six months have been defined by his often angry and tasteless tweets, his ham-handed efforts to denigrate and undercut the multiple investigations into Russian influence in the 2016 election and the stalemated legislative battle to repeal and replace Obamacare.

But Trump is right in saying he has significantly influenced government and the nation's image -- though much of his impact has been negative.

His most significant clear-cut triumph was installing conservative Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch.

He can take credit for slowing the inflow of illegal immigrants.

And his impact has gone well beyond that, a conclusion on which two recent articles from opposite ends of the ideological spectrum agreed.

"While You Obsessed over Trump's Scandals, He's Fundamentally Changed the Country," headlined Sam Stein in the liberal HuffPost.

"Reporters only want to talk about Russia, instead of what Team trump is getting done," was part of the headline over conservative Kimberly Strassel's column in The Wall Street Journal.

With contrary attitudes, they cited some identical examples, from authorizing the Dakota Access Pipeline to easing environmental restrictions on energy protection.

Strassel hailed the Fish and Wildlife Service for slowing an endangered species listing for the Texas Hornshell, a freshwater mussel she said "threatens significant harm to the Texas economy."

Stein expressed concern over easing Occupational Safety and Health Administration requirements for reporting worker injury data and letting coal companies dump debris into local streams.

Here are some other Trump "achievements:"

FOREIGN POLICY

-Embraced autocrats in Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Philippines, Egypt and abandoned longtime U.S leadership in seeking to enhance democracy and human rights.

-Insulted U.S. allies in Europe, especially Germany, and undercut longstanding U.S. treaty commitments.

-Compromised Israel's intelligence sources.

-Spurred more divisiveness in an already divided Middle East by setting off a squabble between Saudi Arabia, a major U.S. ally, and Qatar, home of the region's biggest U.S. military base.

-Undermined U.S. global leadership on climate change by withdrawing from the Paris agreement, joining only Syria and Nicaragua as nonparticipants.

-Reversed decades of Republican support for free trade, ceding leadership in Asia to China by withdrawing from the Trans-Pacific Partnership and elsewhere by encouraging the British exit from the European Community.

DOMESTIC POLICY

-Proposed a budget with massive cuts that would shred the social safety net and cripple longstanding governmental functions.

-Created uncertainty in the nation's health care system by sending inconsistent administrative signals and supporting legislation that could deprive millions of people health insurance coverage, undermine Medicaid health support for lower income Americans and give wealthy taxpayers a massive tax cut.

-Mismanaged the federal government by failing to fill many top spots and installing an inexperienced, dysfunctional White House staff.

-Expanded the policy of deporting dangerous illegal aliens by including many people with minimal records, stable jobs and American families.

-Created a commission to investigate his unproven allegations of voter fraud because he lost the popular vote to Hillary Clinton.

-Reversed decades of bipartisan cooperation in extending environmental preservation of national landmarks.

-Hired foxes to watch the chicken coops by filling his administration with archconservatives, many with records opposing the very agencies in which they work, and curbing civil rights and environmental enforcement.

INSTITUTIONAL DAMAGE

-Committed potentially impeachable offenses of obstructing justice that prompted appointment of a Special Counsel by firing FBI Director James Comey, because of his probe into possible Trump campaign collusion with Russia, and urging other intelligence officials to pressure Comey to halt the probe.

-Undermined the courts with denunciations of judges and their decisions affecting his administration's policies, especially those curbing his hastily issued ban on Muslim travel from certain countries.

-Without evidence, accused former President Barack Obama of illegally wiretapping his phones.

-Repeatedly misrepresented his administration's policies and trashed officials with whom he has disagreements, calling the ousted Comey "a nut job," Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer the "head clown" and House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi an "incompetent."

-Intensified racial and other divisions by reducing governmental civil rights guarantees and reversing protections for sexual and racial minorities.

-Violated his own self-proclaimed ethics laws by allowing officials to deal with issues affecting their former employers. Permitted multiple instances in which he and other family members benefit financially from his presidency.

-Waged a vendetta against news outlets subjecting his administration to scrutiny, calling the mainstream media the "enemy of the American people" and denouncing unfavorable stories as "fake news." Undercut White House press institutions intended to facilitate dialogue between the presidency and the public.


Trump has failed so far to enact promised measures to increase economic growth, resulting in reduced long-term forecasts.

Many economic numbers he touts exaggerate his impact and denigrate the carryover effect of positive Obama policies.

Military progress against ISIS has not eased its terrorist threat.

The result: the least support for any new modern president, an exacerbation of domestic divisions, and unprecedented global disdain and embarrassment.

WSJ eviscerates ‘oblivious’ Trump over Russia scandal in devastating editorial.

The Wall Street Journal unloaded on President Donald Trump late Monday night, lambasting the president for being mired in an investigation into Russian involvement in his campaign and for continually hiding damaging details that inevitably are leaked.

Following a weekend when Trump’s attorney attempted to put out the fire – and failed spectacularly — the Journal editorial board finally had enough.

Under the heading “The Trumps and the Truth,” they wrote, “Even Donald Trump might agree that a major reason he won the 2016 election is because voters couldn’t abide Hillary Clinton’s legacy of scandal, deception and stonewalling.

Yet on the story of Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election, Mr. Trump and his family are repeating the mistakes that doomed Mrs. Clinton.”

“Don Jr. released his emails that showed the Russian lure about Mrs. Clinton and Don Jr. all excited—’I love it.’

Oh, and son-in-law Jared Kushner and Beltway bagman Paul Manafort were also at the meeting.

Don Jr. told Sean Hannity this was the full story,” they continued.

“But then news leaked that a Russian-American lobbyist was also at the meeting.”

“Even if the ultimate truth of this tale is merely that Don Jr. is a political dunce who took a meeting that went nowhere—the best case—the Trumps made it appear as if they have something to hide.

They have created the appearance of a conspiracy that on the evidence Don Jr. lacks the wit to concoct,” they wrote.

The Journal then brought the heat.

“Don’t you get it, guys?

Special counsel Robert Mueller and the House and Senate intelligence committees are investigating the Russia story.

Everything that is potentially damaging to the Trumps will come out, one way or another.

Everything.

Denouncing leaks as “fake news” won’t wash as a counter-strategy beyond the President’s base, as Mr. Trump’s latest 36% approval rating shows,” the editorial continued.

According to the Journal, Trump needs to come clean, releasing “every detail that might be relevant to the Russian investigations.”

“That means every meeting with any Russian or any American with Russian business ties. Every phone call or email.

And every Trump business relationship with Russians going back years,” they wrote.

”This should include every relevant part of Mr. Trump’s tax returns, which the President will resist but Mr. Mueller is sure to seek anyway.”

Writing, “Mr. Trump will probably ignore this advice,” the editors concluded, “Mr. Trump somehow seems to believe that his outsize personality and social-media following make him larger than the Presidency.

He’s wrong.

He and his family seem oblivious to the brutal realities of Washington politics.

Those realities will destroy Mr. Trump, his family and their business reputation unless they change their strategy toward the Russia probe.

They don’t have much more time to do it.”

Misty » 18 Jul 2017 3:41 pm » wrote:From the right leaning Dallas Morning News:
WOW!



https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/dallas-morning-news/

Misty » 18 Jul 2017 4:34 pm » wrote:

For once I actually agree with him.
They look like a bunch of weak dopes.

They had a lot of courage when they voted over and over and over again to repeal the ACA when they knew that it would only get vetoed.

But now that they have a POTUS who was ready to sign anything they sent him, they folded like a cheap suit.

Ian Bremmer: Trump, Putin held second informal meeting at G-20

President Trump held a second, informal meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin on the sidelines of the Group of 20 summit in Hamburg earlier this month, according to Ian Bremmer, the president of the international consulting firm Eurasia Group.

The meeting took place during the G-20 heads of state dinner, according to Bremmer, hours after Trump's formal bilateral sit-down with Putin.

In that conversation, Trump spoke with the Russian leader for roughly an hour, joined only by Putin's translator.

The meeting had previously gone without mention by the White House.

Misty » 18 Jul 2017 5:04 pm » wrote:Remember how T-Bag praised his son Fredo's 'transparency' when he released his emails (that were about to be released by the NY Times)?

Misty » 18 Jul 2017 5:04 pm » wrote:Remember how T-Bag praised his son Fredo's 'transparency' when he released his emails (that were about to be released by the NY Times)?