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New Karl Rove Super PAC Targets Tea Party Candidates The biggest donors in the Republican Party are financing a new group to recruit seasoned candidates and protect Senate incumbents from challenges by far-right conservatives and Tea Party enthusiasts who Republican leaders worry could complicate the partys efforts to win control of the Senate. The group, the Conservative Victory Project, is intended to counter other organizations that have helped defeat establishment Republican candidates over the last two election cycles. It is the most robust attempt yet by Republicans to impose a new sense of discipline on the party, particularly in primary races. There is a broad concern about having blown a significant number of races because the wrong candidates were selected, said Steven J. Law, the president of American Crossroads, the super PAC creating the new project. We dont view ourselves as being in the incumbent protection business, but we want to pick the most conservative candidate who can win. The effort would put a new twist on the Republican-vs.-Republican warfare that has consumed the partys primary races in recent years. In effect, the establishment is taking steps to fight back against Tea Party groups and other conservative organizations that have wielded significant influence in backing candidates who ultimately lost seats to Democrats in the general election. The first test of the groups effort to influence primary races could come here in Iowa, where some Republicans are already worrying about who will run for the seat being vacated by Senator Tom Harkin, a Democrat. It is the first open Senate seat in Iowa since 1974, and Republicans are fearful of squandering a rare opportunity. The Conservative Victory Project, which is backed by Karl Rove and his allies who built American Crossroads into the largest Republican super PAC of the 2012 election cycle, will start by intensely vetting prospective contenders for Congressional races to try to weed out candidates who are seen as too flawed to win general elections. Read More Representative Steve King [R] could be among the earliest targets of the Conservative Victory Project if he decides to run for the Senate seat vacated by Tom Harkin.

'American Sniper' Author Chris Kyle Fatally Shot At Texas Gun RangeA former Navy SEAL who wrote "American Sniper," a best-selling book about his lethal career as a marksman in Iraq, was shot to death with another man at a gun range near Stephenville, Texas, on Saturday.Chris Kyle, 38, and the other man were found dead at the shooting range of Rough Creek Lodge on Saturday afternoon, Texas Highway Patrol spokesman Lonny Haschel told KXAS.The gunman, identified as Eddie Ray Routh of Lancaster, Texas, was arrested after a brief pursuit, Trooper Haschel said. The other victim was named as Chad Littlefield, aged 35.Routh is in the Marine Corps Individual Ready Reserve, a U.S. military official confirmed. As such, he is not active or drilling with a unit.Routh's service record shows that he was an armorer with the rank of corporal and served from June 2006 to January 2010. He was deployed three times -- to Iraq, various locations in Europe and the Middle East, and to Haiti.Kyle, a Texas native who grew up hunting, served four tours in Iraq with Navy SEAL Team 3. His shooting during battles in Ramadi and Fallujah became legendary, and insurgents nicknamed him the "Devil of Ramadi" and put a bounty on his head.He was credited with 160 confirmed kills, including one in 2008 in which he said he fired from 2,100 yards away -- 1.2 miles.The Star-Telegram described him as "America's deadliest sniper."Kyle and Littlefield had taken Routh to the range, said Travis Cox, the director of a nonprofit Kyle helped found. Littlefield was Kyle's neighbor and "workout buddy," Cox told The Associated Press on Sunday morning."What I know is Chris and a gentleman — great guy, I knew him well, Chad Littlefield — took a veteran out shooting who was struggling with PTSD to try to assist him, try to help him, try to, you know, give him a helping hand, and he turned the gun on both of them, killing them," Cox told the AP.Kyle's nonprofit, FITCO Cares, provides at-home fitness equipment for emotionally and physically wounded veterans."It just comes as a shock and it's staggering to think that after all Chris has been through, that this is how he meets his end, because there are so many ways he could have been killed" in Iraq, Scott McEwen, who co-wrote "American Sniper," told Reuters.Kyle appeared on the NBC reality TV show "Stars Earn Stripes" last year.Kyle was married with two children.That is so sad that they were trying to help a guy with PTSD and they end up getting killed.I watched the show that Chris Kyle appeared on last year, so when I heard the name it rang a bell.In this video you can see Chris Kyle teaching Dean Cain how to repel down a wall.In this one you can see Chris Kyle doing some shooting.

Not necessarily, but there's not enough info in the article for me to make an informed decision. I have a lot of questions. Like, what was he doing with 5 extended magazines in his car? Was he planning on selling them? What difference does it make? Do you want to limit everyone's freedom because something "might" happen? Where is the victim to his crime? I didn't express myself very well before, I had health issues thatinterfered. I don't want David Gregory arrested, I want the law that SHOULD HAVE had him arrested repealed Like I said, where's the victim?

What difference does it make?Do you want to limit everyone's freedom because something "might" happen?Where is the victim to his crime?I didn't express myself very well before, I had health issues thatinterfered.I don't want David Gregory arrested, I want the law that SHOULD HAVE had him arrested repealedLike I said, where's the victim?I understand that you want that law repealed.I don't.

Pennsylvania Republicans To Introduce New Election-Rigging Plan Last month, Republican National Committee Chair Reince Priebus called up states that have been consistently blue that are fully controlled red to rig future presidential elections by changing the way electoral votes are allocated. Under Priebus proposal, blue states such as Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania would stop awarding electoral votes to the winner of the state as a whole, and instead would award them one-by-one to the winner of each congressional district. Meanwhile, red states would continue to award 100 percent of their electors to the Republican. This plan appears to have lost steam, however, as several top Republicans in key states announced they will not support it. Even as Republicans in key states such as Michigan, Ohio, Florida and Virginia came out against this election-rigging plan, however, Pennsylvania Republicans have been eerily quite. We now know why. According to the New Castle News a local paper in western Pennsylvania, Senate Majority Leader Dominic Pileggi [R] will introduce legislation this month that will effectively give away a large chuck of Pennsylvanias electoral votes to the Republican presidential candidate, regardless of who wins the state as a whole. How This Election-Rigging Plan Works Unlike the plan Priebus backs, the New Republican Plan would not tie electoral votes to congressional districts. Instead, it would award the overwhelming majority of Pennsylvanias electoral votes proportionally according to the popular vote, with two additional electoral votes going to the winner of the state as a whole. If the New Republican Plan had been in effect in 2012, Mitt Romney would have received 8 of Pennsylvania 20 electoral votes, despite losing the state by a substantial margin. The problem with the New Republican Plan is that it would only be enacted in blue states such as Pennsylvania -the Democratic candidate for presidential won Pennsylvania in every single election for the past two decades - while red states would continue to award all of their electoral votes to the Republican. Thus, the plan gives away Democratic votes to the Republican for free, while letting the Republican candidate keep all the votes they earn legitimately in other states. Read More

ATF Approves Prepper Paradise Firearms CompanyThe people behind The Citadel project, who are hoping to build a walled prepper community in Idaho, touted a milestone last week: the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has given them the green light to start manufacturing firearms.In this afternoons mail, III Arms Company received a little note from the ATF saying: Thanks for your interest, please start building firearms, Jim Miller, the companys president, wrote on the companys blog last Thursday. Yup. The III Arms Company now possesses our Manufacturer of Firearms Other Than Destructive Devices License, otherwise known as an 07FFL, and we can legally manufacture and assemble your firearms. Oh yeah, happy days!The ATF license is an important step for The Citadel project. Organizers are hoping that proceeds from the gun business will underwrite the construction and development of the community, which is envisioned as a place for 3,500 to 7,000 patriotic American families who want to be ready for societys collapse, and who want to live around more guns and fewer liberals in the meantime.ATF records accessed online on Monday confirmed the license issued to Millerized LLC, a company Miller registered in August in West Virginia, which does business under the name III Arms Company. (An apparently separate company called III Arms Company LLC was registered in Idaho in August, and lists Holly Kerodin, another key Citadel organizer, as an officer.)III Arms began taking orders in November for both AR-15 type semiautomatic rifles and 1911 pistols. Both guns start at a base price of $1,550. A disclaimer on the company website warns that delivery timelines are currently subject to great uncertainty due to the current political climate and parts availability. The ATF license, though, allows the company to start fulfilling orders.This step takes us from a mostly conceptual stage to a real world planning stage, a Citadel organizer, who blogs under the names Vernon and VJ, wrote Friday on The Citadels blog. This will change the nature of our blog, somewhat. Most of our planning discussions will move to our private forum. We still welcome your ideas and information that you think may be helpful to the project. Theres lots of good information and ideas out there that we might not be aware of. We will keep you updated on our progress, of course. However, we now have much better things to do with our time than to argue with those who just want to criticize us, so we arent going to.For Miller, the ATF license provided a certain amount of vindication the Citadel project has drawn criticism from a number of other preppers and separatists. Included in his blog post last week, Miller uploaded a picture in which he is holding up the license paperwork in one hand and flashing his middle finger with the other hand.This is the last nail in the coffin for those who told us it couldnt be done, Miller wrote in the post. You could have been a part of it, but noyou cried to your masters, and you failed them. You and your strap hangers sullied (at least attempted to) our names on blogs and sites around the world, and you all failed. You didnt even have to balls to publish how I was going to make it work when you first got your panties wadded up. Instead you cried like a whiny little bitch who didnt get their way.. and you failed yet again.Miller also revealed some bits of information about The Citadels recent wave of publicity. According to Miller, web hits on the Citadels blog surpassed 160,000 in late January, and hits to the III Arms company site have been almost as numerous. III Arms sales increased exponentially during the past 2 weeks.One of the key players linked to the Citadel project is three time convicted felon Christian Allen Kerodin, a Maryland contractor who has apparently used various aliases and whose birth name was Christian Hyman.His wife/partner Holly Ann Kerodin, has been involved in questionable charity, counseling, publishing and other ventures that have failed.I'm sure this can only end well.

I understand that you want that law repealed. I don't. See, this is where you lose me. You don't want the law approved, and you don't want it enforced for select people like David Gregory. I say the law should apply to everyone equally. You say it shouldn't, because it doesn't benefit society to enforced it on Gregory. Do I have that right?

See, this is where you lose me.You don't want the law approved, and you don't want it enforced for select people like David Gregory.I say the law should apply to everyone equally.You say it shouldn't, because it doesn't benefit society to enforced it on Gregory.Do I have that right?No law has ever been enforced equally.If you believe that, you are naive.

I'm sure this can only end well. Figured out how to tie it to the NRA yet? A gun store obtained it's manufacturing license. This is a good thing, in general, and the ATF will keep a sharp eye on them. You have nothing to fear with those guys on the job. My favorite gun store here got it's manufacturing license about a year and a half ago. They make nice little AR15s. The price has doubled the last couple months, but we can thank you Liberals for that. They have machine gun shoots in the warmer months. You oughtta grab the hubby and drive down for one some time. Do you good to rock your socks with a couple belts of fifty cal. Job are good, right? He employs quit a few people for these events. No law has ever been enforced equally. If you believe that, you are naive. Then what's the point of having the law in the first place? So you're advocating to leave the laws, and enforce them selectively? And if I want to violate the law, IOW, posses the magazine, I should what? Strive to become a member of the class that the law doesn't apply too? Are you serious?

Figured out how to tie it to the NRA yet?I wasn't trying to.A gun store obtained it's manufacturing license. This is a good thing, in general, and the ATF will keep a sharp eye on them. You have nothing to fear with those guys on the job.Do you have any idea how long it's been since there has been someone at the head of the ATF?Six years. And do you know why? Hint....it rhymes with 'fun hobby'.ATF, charged with regulating guns, lacks resources and leadership.My favorite gun store here got it's manufacturing license about a year and a half ago. They make nice little AR15s. The price has doubled the last couple months, but we can thank you Liberals for that.You can thank Wayne (The Peter) LaPierre for scaring the bejeezuz out of people.They have machine gun shoots in the warmer months. You oughtta grab the hubby and drive down for one some time. Do you good to rock your socks with a couple belts of fifty cal.Maybe I should start with something smaller. LOLSo you're advocating to leave the laws, and enforce them selectively?I see we're still beating this dead horse.I am not advocating that, I'm just a realist.Laws are now, and always will be, enforced selectively.And if I want to violate the law, IOW, posses the magazine, I should what? Strive to become a member of the class that the law doesn't apply too?You should get a Sunday morning news show.Are you serious?Aren't I always?

I wasn't trying to.Do you have any idea how long it's been since there has been someone at the head of the ATF?Let me guess,This has something to do with Obama's incompetency and lack of leadership, doesn't it?Six years. And do you know why? Hint....it rhymes with 'fun hobby'.Great, going into the second month of Obama's second term and it's still Bush's fault.ATF, charged with regulating guns, lacks resources and leadership.You can thank Wayne (The Peter) LaPierre for scaring the bejeezuz out of people.Maybe I should start with something smaller. LOLI see we're still beating this dead horse.I am not advocating that, I'm just a realist.Laws are now, and always will be, enforced selectively.You should get a Sunday morning news show.Aren't I always?Don't you even believe in equality for all?Freedom?Why should Gregory be allowed to do something I can't?Seriously?Why?

MistyBlue, on 04 Feb 2013 - 18:09, said:Do you have any idea how long it's been since there has been someone at the head of the ATF?Let me guess,This has something to do with Obama's incompetency and lack of leadership, doesn't it?No. It's actually been six years since the ATF had someone in the top job.Great, going into the second month of Obama's second term and it's still Bush's fault.Not Bush's fault, Congress's fault.They made it a requirement 6 years ago that the director of the bureau of ATF has to be confirmed by the Senate, and ever since then, they've refused to confirm anyone. They wouldn't confirm Bush's nominee, or Obama's.And...despite the growth of the gun industry and the nations population, ATF has fewer agents today than it did nearly four decades ago. For that we can thank the NRA's lobbying efforts, and the members of Congress that they have bought and paid for. Both Democrats and Republicans.Don't you even believe in equality for all?It's a lofty goal to aspire to.Unfortunately it doesn't work as well in practice as is does in theory.Freedom?Why should Gregory be allowed to do something I can't?Seriously?Why?I'm pretty sure if you were the host of Meet The Press, and you did what he did, you'd be allowed.

And you approve of that?Alcohol, Firearms and Tobacco should be the name of a corner store, not a government agency,,,,

Alcohol, Firearms and Tobacco should be the name of a corner store, not a government agency,,,,Actually it's now called The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.So you believe that we should have no one overseeing the sale and possession explosives, acts of arson and bombings, and illegal trafficking of alcohol and tobacco products?Because besides overseeing the sale and possession of firearms, that's what they do.

Actually it's now called The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.So you believe that we should have no one overseeing the sale and possession explosives, acts of arson and bombings, and illegal trafficking of alcohol and tobacco products?And you believe that should be a function of the TREASURY??I think there should be no such thing as "illegal trafficking of alcohol and tobacco"

How does it benefit society to prosecute this man? http://www.washingto.../#ixzz2K81v5Iw3 Former Army Staff Sgt. Nathan Haddad was arrested in LeRay, Ny. earlier this year for possessing five 30-round magazines, which are perfectly legal nearly everywhere else in the country. New York passed a law in 1994 prohibiting magazines over 10 rounds. For this, the veteran of the war in Iraq, who devotes his free timeto supporting other veterans, was thrown in jail and charged with five felonies and faces a maximum of seven years in state prison. If he is convicted of even one felony, he will lose his Second Amendment right for life. “He’s not proclaiming innocence,” Sgt. Haddad’s brother Michael said in a phone interview. “He thought he had something that was legal and it turned out that they weren’t.” On Jan. 6, the Jefferson County police coincidentally turned up at the same place and time as a meeting between Sgt. Haddad, now a civilian employee at Fort Drum, to sell the AR-15 type rifle magazines. He did not have the AR15 rifle with him, so there was no threat of violence. The soldier was asked what he was doing. Believing he was not committing a crime, Sgt. Haddad told the police officer what he was selling. The police looked at the bottom of the magazines to see if date stamp, and then arrested Sgt. Haddad because the items were made after 1994.

And you believe that should be a function of the TREASURY??I think there should be no such thing as "illegal trafficking of alcohol and tobacco"It's a tax thing right?Taxes on tobacco are different in each state.And each state's regulations on alcohol are different.I just heard that our governor wants to privatize the sale of liquor in PA.Right now the liquor stores are state run.How does it benefit society to prosecute this man?He wasn't just in possession of the illegal magazines, he was selling them.I get it. You don't think they should be illegal, but they are in NY, and have been since 1994.

Again I ask, How does it benefit society to prosecute this man?

Can you check your Musings thread?I have a bit of a problem.

Should be legal everywhere