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Misty » 06 Nov 2017 11:46 pm » wrote: Is there something seriously wrong with you?
For the thousandth time, it's not my **** party.

Carter Page's testimony is filled with bombshells — and supports key portions of the Steele dossier.

The House Intelligence Committee on Monday released the full transcript of the former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page's testimony before the panel last week, portions of which support details in an explosive collection of memos outlining alleged collusion between the campaign and Moscow before the 2016 US election.

Page revealed during his testimony that he met with members of Russia's presidential administration and the head of investor relations at the Russian state-owned oil giant Rosneft during his trip to Moscow in July 2016.

He also congratulated members of the Trump campaign's foreign-policy team on July 14 for their "excellent work" on the "Ukraine amendment" — a reference to the Trump campaign's decision to "intervene," a representative previously told Business Insider, to water down a proposed amendment to the GOP's Ukraine platform.

The original amendment proposed that the GOP commit to sending "lethal weapons" to the Ukrainian army to fend off Russian aggression.

But it was ultimately altered to say provide "appropriate assistance" before it was included in the party's official platform.

The dossier says the campaign "agreed to sideline" the issue of Russia's invasion of Crimea and interference in eastern Ukraine in exchange for dirt on Hillary Clinton, the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee.

Page also disclosed that a Trump campaign adviser named Sam Clovis had asked him to sign a nondisclosure agreement upon joining the campaign — and that he discussed his Moscow trip with Clovis both before he went and after he returned.

Clovis has come under intense scrutiny over his correspondence with another early Trump campaign foreign-policy adviser, George Papadopoulos, who recently pleaded guilty to lying to federal agents about his contact with Russia-linked foreign nationals.

Papadopoulos was told in April by a Kremlin-linked professor that Russia had dirt on Clinton in the form of "thousands" of emails, and he emailed Clovis several times before the election asking to arrange a meeting between Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Emails contained in newly unsealed court documents show that Clovis never shot down the idea — at one point even encouraging Papadopoulos to travel to Moscow himself.

The transcript shows that Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff confronted Page with an email he wrote on July 8, 2016, from Moscow to the Trump campaign adviser J.D. Gordon, saying he had received "incredible insights and outreach ... from a few Russian legislators and senior members of the presidential administration here."

The dossier, compiled by the former British spy Christopher Steele, said an "official close to Presidential Administration Head, S. Ivanov, confided in a compatriot that a senior colleague in the Internal Political Department of the PA, Diveykin (nfd) also had met secretly with Page on his recent visit."

According to that official in the dossier, Igor Diveykin told Page that the Kremlin had a dossier of kompromat on Clinton that it wanted to give the Trump campaign.

In his congressional testimony, Page denied meeting with Diveykin and said the meeting with the "senior members of the presidential administration" was actually "a brief, less-than-10-second chat with Arkadiy Dvorkovich," Russia's deputy prime minister.

He said his mention of "legislators" was a reference to "a few people" who "were shaking hands" with him in passing.

Gordon said on Monday that he didn't "recall all of Carter Page's emails."

"I was getting thousands of emails on the campaign and didn't read all of them," he told Business Insider.

"I discouraged Carter from taking the trip to Moscow in the first place because it was a bad idea ...

He eventually went around me directly to campaign leadership."

The campaign manager at the time, Corey Lewandowski, approved Page's trip, Gordon said.

Schiff also asked Page whether, before his trip to Moscow, he met with Andrey Baranov, the head of investor relations at Rosneft.

"We got in touch, and he told me about this event," Page said.

"Well, Mr. Baranov works for Mr. Sechin, does he not?" Schiff asked, referring to Igor Sechin, the CEO of Rosneft.

"He's a part of the team at Rosneft," Page said.

He said he "possibly" spoke to Baranov before traveling to Moscow.

"As someone working on investor relations for a CEO who is under sanctions, would it be advantageous for that head of investor relations to see those sanctions go away?" Schiff asked.

The intelligence community in January briefed Trump, President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, and the nation's top lawmakers on the dossier's claims, many of which have not been independently verified but are being investigated by the FBI and congressional intelligence committees.

Four months before, a US intelligence source told Yahoo's Michael Isikoff that Sechin met with Page during Page's three-day trip to Moscow. Sechin, the source told Yahoo, raised the issue of the US lifting sanctions on Russia under Trump.

Steele wrote in the dossier that a Russian source close to Sechin said in July 2016 that Sechin and Page had held a "secret meeting" to discuss "the issues of future bilateral energy cooperation and prospects for an associated move to lift Ukraine-related western sanctions against Russia."

The dossier said Sechin offered Page the brokerage of a 19% stake in the company in exchange for the lifting of US sanctions on Russia.

Page told Schiff that the sanctions issue was "outside the scope" of Baranov's responsibilities, and when asked whether he had spoken to Baranov again after returning the US, Page said he couldn't recall.

Page also said he met with an investor-relations official at Gazprom, a Russia energy company, while in Moscow in July and December.

Asked whether he and Baranov discussed "a potential sale of a significant percentage of Rosneft" in July, Page said, "He may have briefly mentioned it."

"Did you ever express support for the idea of lifting US sanctions on Russia with Mr. Baranov?" Schiff asked.

"Not directly," Page said.

There is no evidence that Page played any role in the Rosneft deal.

But Page returned to Moscow one day after the Rosneft deal was signed on December 8 to "meet with some of the top managers" of Rosneft, he told reporters at the time.

Page denied meeting with Sechin during that trip, but he said it would have been "a great honor" if he had.

From there, Page traveled to London, where he said he met with his "old friend" Sergey Yatsenko — a former mid-level Gazprom executive — to discuss "some opportunities in Kazakhstan."

Asked whether he had ever met the overseas professor who told Papadopoulos about the Kremlin's dossier of incriminating Clinton emails, Joseph Mifsud, Page at first said, "No."

But he then seemed to backtrack.

"You know, there may have been a greeting," he said.

"I have no recollection of ever interacting with him in any way, shape or form ... I have no personal relationship with him."

Termin8tor » 07 Nov 2017 8:31 am » wrote:Get some help, psycho.

Misty » 06 Nov 2017 10:54 am » wrote:Collusion?
Update: George Papadopolous, a member of 45's foreign policy advisory panel was offered dirt on Hillary by the Russians, including thousands of her stolen emails.

He sent emails concerning Vladimir Putin to at least seven campaign officials, and made six requests for Trump or representatives of his campaign to meet in Russia with Russian politicians, including one request made in person at a meeting where both 45 and Jeff Sessions were present.

He has now plead guilty to lying to federal investigators about this and is 'actively cooperating' with their investigation.

Misty » 07 Nov 2017 10:27 am » wrote:
If I were a member of the Democratic Party I would have no problem saying so, because like you say, I agree with them on pretty much everything.
I have no reason to lie about this.
It is just not accurate for you to say that I belong to that party, so stop lying about it.

Misty » 07 Nov 2017 10:41 am » wrote: Update: A newly released transcript of Carter Page's testimony before the House Intelligence Committee, shows that he went to Moscow and met with Kremlin officials after he had been hired by the Trump campaign, and people high up in the campaign like Sam Clovis and Corey Lewandowski were very well aware of this and even approved the trip.

He also said he told Jeff Sessions about it.

Page's testimony supports key portions of the Steele dossier.

Trump reportedly told the director of the CIA to meet with a former intelligence official who claims Russia never hacked the DNC.

President Donald Trump reportedly told CIA Director Mike Pompeo to meet with a former intelligence official who argued in a memo that Russia never hacked the Democratic National Committee in July of 2016, and that instead its emails were released due to an internal leak, according to the Intercept.

Pompeo met with William Binney, the former National Security Agency official who co-wrote the memo with several other alleged intelligence veterans, on October 24 at the president's urging.

According to Binney, Pompeo said Trump told him that if he "want[ed] to know the facts, he should talk to me," referring to Binney.

Binney claimed the DNC emails were leaked by someone on the inside, contradicting the findings of intelligence agencies.

A high-ranking intelligence source confirmed for the Intercept that the meeting between Binney and Pompeo had taken place at Trump's request.

Binney himself acknowledged that he had brought up the case of deceased DNC staffer Seth Rich to Pompeo, referencing a right-wing conspiracy theory that claims that Rich was murdered on the orders of Hillary Clinton's campaign.

Donald Trump Jr. also referenced the conspiracy theory in a tweet on Sunday.

Binney was one of several senior intelligence officials who authored a reanalysis of the 2016 DNC hack under the name Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), claiming that the DNC emails released by WikiLeaks in July of 2016 were in fact leaked "by a person with physical access to DNC computer," and not by hackers working for the Russian government, according to Consortium News.

Binney and his colleagues wrote that the DNC data was copied at much higher speeds than would be possible through a remote internet hack, and that they were extracted by someone on the east coast of the US.

These findings contradict the official findings of the four intelligence agencies that investigated the incident, which all concluded that Russia was behind a remote breach of the DNC's servers conducted by a hacker known as Guccifer 2.0 who reportedly claimed responsibility for the hack last year.

In addition, several members of the VIPS group signed an opposing memo that challenged its assertions.

“A number of VIPS members did not sign this problematic memo because of troubling questions about its conclusions, and others who did sign it have raised key concerns since its publication,” the memo read.

A former CIA officer said that Trump's insistence that Pompeo, who heads one of the agencies that presented the Russia findings, meet with Binney was highly unusual.

"This is crazy. You’ve got all these intelligence agencies saying the Russians did the hack.

To deny that is like coming out with the theory that the Japanese didn't bomb Pearl Harbor," the officer told the Intercept.

Dean Boyd, the director of the CIA Office of Public Affairs, said Pompeo "stands by, and has always stood by, the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment."

"The Director has been adamant that CIA officers have the time, space and resources to make sound and unbiased assessments that are delivered to policy makers without fear or favor," he said.

But Pompeo has emerged as a Trump ally in the intelligence community, and he recently made the Counterintelligence Mission Center report directly to him.

The center will likely play a large role in future CIA inquiries into Russia's influence on the 2016 election.

He has also stated that Russian meddling likely had no impact on the outcome of the election.

Misty » 07 Nov 2017 5:14 pm » wrote:Talibangelist jackass.

Misty » 08 Nov 2017 11:41 am » wrote:

FOX NEWS' SEAN HANNITY DEVOTED ALL OF SIX SECONDS TO DEMOCRATS WINNING IN VIRGINIA

Fox News host Sean Hannity devoted all of six seconds of his show Hannity to the result of the Virginia gubernatorial election as the results showed a win for Democrat Ralph Northam Tuesday night.

"Those results in Virginia, New Jersey, and New York, by the way—not states that Donald Trump won," Hannity said at the top of his show, suggesting that the results didn’t matter and had already been decided.

His statement on the election lasted all of six seconds.

http://www.newsweek.com/sean-hannity-co ... nia-705229

InfoWars Has Republished More Than 1,000 Articles From RT Without Permission

Over the past three years, conspiracy site InfoWars has copied more than 1,000 articles produced by Russian state-sponsored broadcaster RT to its website — all without the permission of RT.

According to data from social sharing tracking website BuzzSumo, there were at least 1,014 RT articles republished on InfoWars since May of 2014.

The articles appeared on InfoWars with a byline credit to RT, but a spokesperson for the Russian broadcaster told BuzzFeed News that InfoWars did not have permission to re-publish its content.

RT is not the only outlet InfoWars copied content from.

A search on BuzzSumo shows there are articles copied from CNN, Sputnik, Breitbart, CNS News, the Blaze, CBC, BBC, Vice, The Guardian, The Washington Post, The New York Times, The New York Post, LA Times, BuzzFeed, and others.

RT’s articles, however, seem to be the most numerous.

After being informed of InfoWars's rampant reprinting of RT stories, Anna Belkina, the head of communications for RT, wouldn't say whether her employer will take action against InfoWars.

"We take under consideration any use of our content without authorisation, and proceed with any action we deem appropriate.

We do this on a case-by-case basis, dependent on the resources we have available at the time," she said.

The subjects of the copied stories range from global politics to terror attacks to news hits about e-cigarettes and fake Canadian gold bars.

Many deal with US politics.

InfoWars is headed by radio host Alex Jones who propagated the false Pizzagate conspiracy theory, fueled hate against migrants, and pushed the unfounded theory that former president Barack Obama is not an American citizen.

Jones and his outlet have also faced accusations that their work often aligns with Kremlin-funded outlets such as RT, and that they have at times benefitted from amplification from Twitter bots and other Russian information operations.

McClatchy reported in March that federal investigators are looking at whether far-right media such as InfoWars and Breitbart played a role in boosting Russian misinformation.

In this case, there's no question that InfoWars has been copying and pasting Kremlin-funded news articles and promoting them to its audience.

Multiple emails sent to InfoWars requesting comment on why the outlet has been mass-copying RT content were opened but not replied to.

Trump Won’t Stop Lying About Russia

In a very real sense, being a liar has defined Donald Trump.

It’s who he is. He’s been lying his entire life.

Now he is trying to save his presidency with a blizzard of lies that exploit the disconnect between what happened during the election last year, when we learned about it, and how.

It’s a strategy meant to confound and confuse not only with the sheer number of lies, but how they’ve been rolled out.

The Trump strategy has been first to lie outright that his campaign had nothing to do with Russians whatsoever.

When meetings with Russians were revealed, they explained them away with new lies, that the meetings were routine and didn’t mean anything.

When the Russian contacts turned out to be real and substantive, they lied that the contacts didn’t amount to “collusion.”

When collusion between the campaign and the Russians couldn’t be explained away, they created a wholly new line of lies, that it was Hillary who colluded with Russians through the so-called “uranium sale,” by financing the Steele dossier, which had sources . . . who were Russians.

Telling lie after lie after lie got Trump the presidency, but now panic has set in at the White House.

Many of the people who have stood by while he lied, or lied for him, are being put under oath, and when you raise your right hand and swear to tell the truth, telling lies can get you arrested.

Lying can put you in jail.

Deciding whether or not to tell the truth when you’re under oath is why people in the Trump White House are hiring $1,000 an hour Washington, D.C. lawyers.

It’s no fun at all.

If you have any questions about this, ask former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos, who lied to the FBI, was arrested, charged, pled guilty, and is now cooperating with the investigation into Russian connections with the Trump campaign led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

Let’s have a look at what we have learned in a single week.

We already knew that the three top figures in the Trump campaign met with three Russians at Trump Tower in June, 2016.

Last week the Papadopoulos plea deal revealed that the Trump campaign knew that the Russians had “dirt” on Hillary Clinton and “thousands” of her emails, in April of last year.

Then we learned that Carter Page was put under oath by the House Intelligence Committee and admitted that he received permission to make his July 2016 trip to Russia from then campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, and notified Hope Hicks, now the White House communications director, and Jeff Sessions, now Attorney General, of his trip.

Page also revealed that he had met with Russian Deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich and reported back by email to senior members of the Trump campaign while he was in Moscow about “insights” he had gained during his meetings with high officials in the Russian government.

Page also told the House Intelligence Committee that he had been informed that his fellow campaign adviser, Papadopoulos, had met in London and Rome with a “professor” with connections to ranking officials in the Russian government.

But for months and months we didn’t know these meetings had taken place, and that in all, nine men from the Trump campaign had met with Russians during the campaign and transition.

We didn’t know in March and April of 2016 when Papadopoulos was running around London meeting with Russians.

We didn’t know in June 2016 when Trump Jr., Manafort, and Kushner sat down in Trump Tower with a passel of Russians, including an attorney carrying a document from the Russian Prosecutor General.

We didn’t know when Trump, Sessions, Manafort and others met with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak at the Republican National Convention last year.

We didn’t know when Michael Flynn and Jared Kushner met with Kislyak and Russian banker Sergey Gorkov at Trump Tower in December 2016.

And we didn’t know when Flynn called Kislyak on December 29 and told him not to worry about sanctions against Russia that had just been imposed by the Obama administration because they would take care of them after the inauguration.

This is the first time in history that the biggest scandal about a political campaign involves not illegal donations or scurrilous campaign ads or dirty tricks but contacts between the campaign and a foreign country hostile to the United States.

We were buried by Trump’s blizzard of lies.

They lied over and over and over again about the number of times they had met with Russians.

In July, 2016, at the time of the Republican National Convention, George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “This Week,” asked Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, “Are there any ties between Mr. Trump, you or your campaign and Putin and his regime?”

“No, there are not,” answered Manafort, who had been copied on Papadopoulos’ emails about his meetings with the “professor” in London about the Russian government having “dirt” on Clinton and “thousands” of her emails, and who had attended the June Trump Tower meeting with a Russian lawyer close to the Putin regime.

“That’s absurd. And you know, there’s no basis to it.”

On the same day, Donald Trump Jr., who chaired the Trump Tower meeting with Russians, went on CNN and told Jake Tapper that Clinton campaign allegations about Russians helping the Trump campaign were “disgusting” and “phony.”

Donald Trump Jr. went on to say, “That exactly goes to show you what the DNC and what the Clinton camp will do. They will lie and do anything to win.”

In September, CNN’s Jake Tapper asked Kellyanne Conway if campaign foreign policy adviser Carter Page had been in contact with Russians.

Conway, who was co-chair of the campaign while Page was still one of its advisers, answered: “If he’s doing that, he’s certainly not doing it with the permission or knowledge of the campaign, the activities that you described.

He is certainly not authorized to do that.” (Page had reported to numerous campaign officials about his Moscow trip.)

During an October appearance at a rally in Florida, Trump out of the blue stated: “I have nothing to do with Russia, folks. OK? I’ll give you a written statement.”

In November, after Trump had won the election, Hope Hicks, who was at that time the campaign spokesman and who had been informed by Carter Page of his Moscow meeting with the Russian Deputy Prime Minister in Moscow, denied to the Associated Press that there had been any contact between the Trump campaign and Russians.

“It never happened,” she said.

“There was no communication between the campaign and any foreign entity during the campaign.”

In December, Kellyanne Conway, who was working in the transition office in Trump Tower where Flynn, Kushner, and Kislyak had been meeting, was asked by John Dickerson of CBS News if there had been any contact between the Trump campaign and Russians.

“Absolutely not,” Conway said.

“And I discussed that with the President-elect just last night. Those conversations never happened.”

At his Senate confirmation hearings to become Attorney General, Jeff Sessions, who had been informed of the trip Carter Page made to Russia by Page himself, answered a question about Russia contacts this way: “Let me state this clearly, colleagues.

I have never met with or had any conversation with any Russians or any foreign officials concerning any type of interference with any campaign or election in the United States.

Further, I have no knowledge of any such conversations by anyone connected to the Trump campaign.”

At a White House press conference on February 16, three days after Flynn had been fired for lying about his contacts with Russian Ambassador Kislyak, and only weeks after Flynn and Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner had met with Kislyak in his own transition office, Trump was asked if anyone in his campaign had been in contact with any Russians.

“You can talk all you want about Russia, which was all, you know, fake news, a fabricated deal, to try and make up for the loss of the Democrats and the press plays right into it.

In fact, I saw a couple of the people that were supposedly involved with all of this — that they know nothing about it; they weren’t in Russia; they never made a phone call to Russia; they never received a phone call.

It’s all fake news. It’s all fake news.”

Asked by another reporter whether anyone on his campaign had contacts with Russians, Trump said: “No. Nobody that I know of. Nobody.”

The reporter persisted: “Can you just say yes or no?”

“Russia is a ruse,” Trump answered. “I have nothing to do with Russia. To the best of my knowledge no person that I deal with does.”

Four days later, then deputy White House spokesman Sarah Huckabee Sanders called Russia contacts with the Trump campaign “a non-story because to the best of our knowledge, no contacts took place, so it’s hard to make a comment on something that never happened.”

On March 17 Donald Trump Jr. denied that he met with Russians during the campaign on campaign business.

“Did I meet with people that were Russian? I’m sure, I’m sure I did,” Trump Jr. said.

“But none that were set up. None that I can think of at the moment. And certainly none that I was representing the campaign in any way, shape or form.”

In May, during his interview in the White House with Lester Holt on NBC, Trump said “there is no collusion between me and my campaign and the Russians.”

In July, just days before the Trump Tower meeting between campaign officials including Donald Trump Jr. and Russians would be revealed, Sarah Huckabee Sanders said, “I would certainly say Don Jr. did not collude with anybody to influence the election.”

On October 30, at her regular White House press briefing, asked about the Papadopoulos guilty plea, Sarah Huckabee Sanders pulled a White House Triple-Salchow with a double reverse twist, and landed the whole Russia collusion thing on . . . you guessed it . . . crooked Hillary:

“It doesn’t have anything to do with the activities of the campaign. It has to do with his failure to tell the truth.

That doesn’t have anything to do with the campaign or the campaign’s activities.

There’s clear evidence of the Clinton campaign colluding with Russian intelligence to spread disinformation and smear the President to influence the election,” Sanders said.

She’s Trump’s spokesperson. She lies. It’s who she is.

But she’s just the latest in a long string of liars for Trump, and she’d better watch out, or she’ll be following her predecessor Sean Spicer into a Capitol Hill hearing room or a grand jury in a drab building somewhere, and if you want to know what happens when they put you under oath and start asking you questions about Russians, you can ask George Papadopoulos.

He knows.

https://newsstand.google.com/articles/C ... CrRE?oc=wa

Misty » 08 Nov 2017 11:31 pm » wrote:
I don't know why anyone would pay any attention to that asshole Alex Jones anyway.

The investigative journalists at veteranstoday concluded long ago that Alex Jones steals RT articles and is a tool of the MOSSAD!That's beside working for the Rethuglican party and the financial elite!