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Why didn't you answer my question?

When Trump claimed that Trump Tower was wiretapped, journalists accused him of lying.

The Wash Post "Fact checker" gave him four Pinochios.

Was it wiretapped?

If so, why did journalists accuse him of lying?

And didn't you accused him of lying and ridicule me for saying he was correct?
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Termin8tor » 11 Jan 2018 3:40 pm » wrote:Why didn't you answer my question?
When Trump claimed that Trump Tower was wiretapped, journalists accused him of lying.
The Wash Post "Fact checker" gave him four Pinochios.
Was it wiretapped?
If so, why did journalists accuse him of lying?
And didn't you accused him of lying and ridicule me for saying he was correct?
President Obama NEVER tapped 45's phones at Trump Tower, which is what 45 accused him of doing.
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The dotard proved once again that the narrative of him in Michael Wolff's book is right on point.
He's in way over his head.

Read the full story here: Trump Tweets Against a Key National Security Priority
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Misty » 11 Jan 2018 4:17 pm » wrote: President Obama NEVER tapped 45's phones at Trump Tower, which is what 45 accused him of doing.
You have no more proof of that than you do on "Russia...russia".
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The racist SCROTUS strikes again.
Trump attacks protections for immigrants from ‘****’ countries.

President Trump grew frustrated with lawmakers Thursday in the Oval Office when they floated restoring protections for immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador and African countries as part of a bipartisan immigration deal, according to two people briefed on the meeting.

“Why are we having all these people from **** countries come here?” Trump said, according to these people, referring to African countries and Haiti.

He then suggested that the United States should instead bring more people from countries like Norway, whose prime minister he met Wednesday.
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I love it, he called a spade a spade.
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Misty » 11 Jan 2018 5:43 pm » wrote:The racist SCROTUS strikes again.


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i'd agree with you....but only if you only lived next to hatians only...you'd scream


HEY!!..i been seeing where new york puking liberals are invading moral conservative PA areas...in neighborhoods you live in....you arrogant spoiled *** liberal new yorkers **** it all up then move...go back to the **** you came from

seeing new yorkers hug each pther on 9/11 and continue acting like creeps on 9/13...i never saw such lowness
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crimsongulf » 11 Jan 2018 4:48 pm » wrote:
Misty » 11 Jan 2018 4:17 pm » wrote:President Obama NEVER tapped 45's phones at Trump Tower, which is what 45 accused him of doing.
You have no more proof of that than you do on "Russia...russia".
Senate Intelligence Committee chairman Richard Burr said on 16 March there were "no indications" that Trump Tower was the subject of surveillance by any element of the US government either before or after Election Day 2016.

Earlier that day, House Speaker Paul Ryan also said "no such wiretap existed".

And the previous day, House of Representatives Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes said: "We don't have any evidence."

"I don't think there was an actual tap of Trump Tower," he told a news conference.

"Are you going to take the tweets literally?" asked Rep Nunes.

"If so, clearly the president was wrong."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39172635
Justice Dept: No evidence of Trump Tower wiretapping.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... iretapping

DOJ: No evidence Trump Tower was wiretapped.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09 ... apped.html

No Evidence Trump Tower Was Wiretapped, Justice Department Says
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... tment-says
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Stinky McPeterson » 11 Jan 2018 5:51 pm » wrote:
Misty » 11 Jan 2018 5:43 pm » wrote:The racist SCROTUS strikes again.
i'd agree with you....but only if you only lived next to hatians only...you'd scream
HEY!!..i been seeing where new york puking liberals are invading moral conservative PA areas...in neighborhoods you live in....you arrogant spoiled *** liberal new yorkers **** it all up then move...go back to the **** you came from
I spent the majority of my life living in Queens County which is the most ethnically diverse county in the country, so I lived next to people of all races and nationalities.
Stinky McPeterson » 11 Jan 2018 5:51 pm » wrote:seeing new yorkers hug each pther on 9/11 and continue acting like creeps on 9/13...i never saw such lowness
I have no idea WTF you are talking about.
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Misty » 11 Jan 2018 4:17 pm » wrote:
Termin8tor » 11 Jan 2018 3:40 pm » wrote:Why didn't you answer my question?

When Trump claimed that Trump Tower was wiretapped, journalists accused him of lying.

The Wash Post "Fact checker" gave him four Pinochios.

Was it wiretapped?

If so, why did journalists accuse him of lying?

And didn't you accused him of lying and ridicule me for saying he was correct?

President Obama NEVER tapped 45's phones at Trump Tower, which is what 45 accused him of doing.
Trump was surveilled either directly or indirectly. Conversations of Trump officials were intercepted and leaked illegally to the press.

FISA warrants were issued to do so.

The Hillary funded Steele Dossier was used in large part as justification.

This has been established to be true beyond any question.


So what's your fig leaf, that the "phones" weren't tapped?

What stupid technicality are you hiding behind, psycho? :rofl:
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Misty » 11 Jan 2018 5:52 pm » wrote:

Justice Dept: No evidence of Trump Tower wiretapping.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... iretapping

DOJ: No evidence Trump Tower was wiretapped.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09 ... apped.html

No Evidence Trump Tower Was Wiretapped, Justice Department Says
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... tment-says
Ok, maybe :wave:
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Misty » 11 Jan 2018 5:52 pm » wrote:Justice Dept: No evidence of Trump Tower wiretapping.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... iretapping

DOJ: No evidence Trump Tower was wiretapped.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09 ... apped.html

No Evidence Trump Tower Was Wiretapped, Justice Department Says
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... tment-says
Hey Dim, you've already admitted that Trump officials' names were unmasked.


IF there was no surveillance, how did they acquire those names?
Lawmakers Turn Up the Heat on Obama Unmasking Scandal –
Allege Larger Obama Spy Op on Trump

September 27, 2017 by Cristina Laila 91 Comments
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Senior Congressional leaders are turning up the heat on their investigation into the Obama unmasking scandal after recent reports of obvious abuses from former UN Ambassador Samantha Power that cannot be ignored.
The recent admission from Susan Rice that she unmasked Trump’s associates to understand more about a meeting between UAE crown prince Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed al-Nahyan and senior Trump aides that took place late last year also renewed their focus on the former NatSec Advisor.
The Washington Free Beacon reports:
Congressional leaders and other insiders told the Washington Free Beacon


that the investigation into the Obama administration’s unmasking campaign is gaining greater steam,

even as the federal probe into alleged collusion with Russia drags on.
“The misuse of intelligence information by members of the Obama administration is a serious issue that requires an exhaustive investigation and accountability,” Rep. Ron DeSantis (R., Fla.), chair of House Subcommittee on National Security
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told the Free Beacon.
The investigation into these unmasking efforts continues to focus on top Obama officials, particularly Power, who is said to have had little need to unmask such sensitive classified information from her perch at Turtle Bay.
Rep. Sean Duffy (R. Wis.), another Republican member closely tracking the unmaksing scandal, encouraged his congressional colleagues to move past the Russia probe in pursuit of the facts about Obama’s potentially illicit spy operation on Trump associates.
The Democrats better be careful what they wish for.
Ironically, the Dems have dug a deeper hole for themselves with this Russia investigation as more damning information is uncovered about the Obama admin.

“Congress is determined to follow the facts wherever they may lead us. And, ironically, the most damning revelations of the Russia investigation thus far incriminates the Obama administration,” said the official, who was not authorized to speak on record. “Susan Rice’s admission to widespread unmasking against Trump associates may just be the tip of the iceberg. We are going to get to the bottom of this.”
The Free Beacon also reported that former officials are very disturbed by the mind blowing number of people Samantha Power unmasked.
The hundreds of unmasking requests by Power—which amount to nearly one a day—are extremely suspicious, the former officials said.
As The Gateway Pundit previously reported, an attorney for Trump Jay Sekulow and his partner at the ACLJ Jordan Sekulow broke down Samantha Power’s unprecedented unmasking requests on their Friday radio show.
Jordan Sekulow pointed out that Power’s unmasking was crammed in the last few weeks or perhaps days of the Obama administration which means she was unmasking dozens of people OR MORE in a single working day.
Sekulow puts Power’s unmasking requests into context by comparing it to other UN Ambassadors of the past.
“Her number of requests are unprecedented in the history of UN Ambassadors who also have the position to unmask,” Jordan Sekulow began.
“No other UN Ambassador has ever even made half of the requests Power made in their ENTIRE CAREER, let alone a few months.”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/09 ... -op-trump/
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Misty » 11 Jan 2018 5:52 pm » wrote:

Justice Dept: No evidence of Trump Tower wiretapping.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... iretapping

DOJ: No evidence Trump Tower was wiretapped.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09 ... apped.html

No Evidence Trump Tower Was Wiretapped, Justice Department Says
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... tment-says
The surveillance went far beyond just Trump Tower.
SO TRUMP WAS RIGHT ABOUT HIS CAMPAIGN BEING BUGGED?
CNN reports that the Obama administration’s FBI wiretapped former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort:

US investigators wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort under secret court orders before and after the election, sources tell CNN, an extraordinary step involving a high-ranking campaign official now at the center of the Russia meddling probe.
The government snooping continued into early this year,
including a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Donald Trump.
If this is true–and we should take it with a grain of salt, it comes from CNN–
it means that President Trump was right when he said that the Obama administration wiretapped his campaign.
Democrats have been denying this for the last year, apparently falsely.
The Obama administration spawned many scandals, but its corruption of the FBI is one of the worst.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2 ... bugged.php
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Termin8tor » 11 Jan 2018 6:05 pm » wrote:
Misty » 11 Jan 2018 4:17 pm » wrote:President Obama NEVER tapped 45's phones at Trump Tower, which is what 45 accused him of doing.
Trump was surveilled either directly or indirectly. Conversations of Trump officials were intercepted and leaked illegally to the press.
Spin much?
Michael Flynn was caught up in a wiretap because he was talking to a Russian who was being surveilled.
That was not illegal.
It happens all the time.
It's called incidental collection.

45 specifically said that President Obama tapped HIS phones at Trump Tower.
That NEVER happened.
Senate Intelligence Committee chairman Richard Burr said on 16 March there were "no indications" that Trump Tower was the subject of surveillance by any element of the US government either before or after Election Day 2016.

Earlier that day, House Speaker Paul Ryan also said "no such wiretap existed".

And the previous day, House of Representatives Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes said: "We don't have any evidence."

"I don't think there was an actual tap of Trump Tower," he told a news conference.

"Are you going to take the tweets literally?" asked Rep Nunes.

"If so, clearly the president was wrong."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39172635
Justice Dept: No evidence of Trump Tower wiretapping.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... iretapping

DOJ: No evidence Trump Tower was wiretapped.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09 ... apped.html

No Evidence Trump Tower Was Wiretapped, Justice Department Says
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... tment-says
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Termin8tor » 11 Jan 2018 6:12 pm » wrote:The surveillance went far beyond just Trump Tower.
SO TRUMP WAS RIGHT ABOUT HIS CAMPAIGN BEING BUGGED?
CNN reports that the Obama administration’s FBI wiretapped former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort:

US investigators wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort under secret court orders before and after the election, sources tell CNN, an extraordinary step involving a high-ranking campaign official now at the center of the Russia meddling probe.
The government snooping continued into early this year,
including a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Donald Trump.
If this is true–and we should take it with a grain of salt, it comes from CNN–
it means that President Trump was right when he said that the Obama administration wiretapped his campaign.
Democrats have been denying this for the last year, apparently falsely.
The Obama administration spawned many scandals, but its corruption of the FBI is one of the worst.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2 ... bugged.php
From the CNN article linked to in your source:
A secret order authorized by the court that handles the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) began after Manafort became the subject of an FBI investigation that began in 2014.

It centered on work done by a group of Washington consulting firms for Ukraine's former ruling party, the sources told CNN.

The surveillance was discontinued at some point last year for lack of evidence, according to one of the sources.

The FBI then restarted the surveillance after obtaining a new FISA warrant that extended at least into early this year.

Sources say the second warrant was part of the FBI's efforts to investigate ties between Trump campaign associates and suspected Russian operatives.

Such warrants require the approval of top Justice Department and FBI officials, and the FBI must provide the court with information showing suspicion that the subject of the warrant may be acting as an agent of a foreign power.
So the surveillance of Manafort began well before 45 even announced that he was running for president.
And the FBI had to provide a good reason to obtain a FISA court warrant to restart it.
Manafort WAS acting as an agent of a foreign power, so they were right about that.
Obviously their suspicions about Manafort were not unfounded as he is now under indictment.
Termin8tor » 11 Jan 2018 6:12 pm » wrote:The surveillance went far beyond just Trump Tower.
Once again, Trump Tower was never wiretapped jackass.
If 45 was talking to Manafort while Manafort was under a FISA court warrant, then he may have been incidentally collected.
But he himself was never under surveillance.
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Misty » 11 Jan 2018 5:59 pm » wrote: I spent the majority of my life living in Queens County which is the most ethnically diverse county in the country, so I lived next to people of all races and nationalities.

I have no idea WTF you are talking about.
i don't rermember saying that, and i would never say that
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Stinky McPeterson » 11 Jan 2018 7:34 pm » wrote:
Misty » 11 Jan 2018 5:59 pm » wrote:I spent the majority of my life living in Queens County which is the most ethnically diverse county in the country, so I lived next to people of all races and nationalities.
I have no idea WTF you are talking about.
i don't rermember saying that, and i would never say that
Must have been your evil twin.

Stinky McPeterson » 11 Jan 2018 5:51 pm » wrote:i'd agree with you....but only if you only lived next to hatians only...you'd scream
HEY!!..i been seeing where new york puking liberals are invading moral conservative PA areas...in neighborhoods you live in....you arrogant spoiled *** liberal new yorkers **** it all up then move...go back to the **** you came from
seeing new yorkers hug each pther on 9/11 and continue acting like creeps on 9/13...i never saw such lowness
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Ghana is probably one of those '**** countries' 45 was talking about.
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A Republican speaks out on 45's '**** countries' comment.

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I wouldn't hold my breath.
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