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11 Mar 2011 1:42 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
25 Jan 2018 2:17 pm
Was the FISA court lying when it documented very extensive abuses of power and many crimes?Misty » 25 Jan 2018 2:13 pm » wrote:My money says he talks about himself for 90% of the speech.
This will be the first 'State Of The Trump' speech.
Are all those many sources I mentioned lying?
Why don't you answer those questions?
25 Jan 2018 2:19 pm
Diversion from what, psycho?Misty » 25 Jan 2018 2:13 pm » wrote:And you are in full diversion mode to protect 45.Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 12:32 pm » wrote:They're in Full Coverup Mode to protect Democrats.
You have yet to cite one single shred of evidence.
Have you got any yet?
No?
Never thought you did.
25 Jan 2018 2:24 pm
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3707 ... y-text-was
But what about the informant he said he had?
U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson said Tuesday that an informant has told Congress that a "secret society" was set up within the FBI and U.S. Department of Justice shortly after Donald Trump was elected president.
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/201 ... 060586001/
25 Jan 2018 2:26 pm
One small error corrected, yes.Misty » 25 Jan 2018 2:24 pm » wrote:"Secret society, etc."
But what about the informant he said he had?
Was the FISA Court lying when it documented extensive abuse of FISA warrants and many related crimes?
25 Jan 2018 2:28 pm
Oh, I don't know, maybe Mueller handing down two indictments, getting two guilty pleas and breathing down 45's turkey neck?Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 2:19 pm » wrote:Diversion from what, psycho?Misty » 25 Jan 2018 2:13 pm » wrote:And you are in full diversion mode to protect 45.Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 12:32 pm » wrote:They're in Full Coverup Mode to protect Democrats.
You know, the reason that you are pointing at squirrels.
25 Jan 2018 2:32 pm
Why did you cut out most of my post? To censor the most important part, of course.Misty » 25 Jan 2018 2:28 pm » wrote:Oh, I don't know, maybe Mueller handing down two indictments, getting two guilty pleas and breathing down 45's turkey neck?Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 2:19 pm » wrote:Diversion from what, psycho?
You know, the reason that you are pointing at squirrels.
You have yet to cite one single shred of evidence.
Have you got any yet?
No?
Never thought you did.
25 Jan 2018 2:33 pm
Was the FISA Court's documentation of extensive abuse of power and related crimes a "squirrel," psycho?Misty » 25 Jan 2018 2:28 pm » wrote: You know, the reason that you are pointing at squirrels.
Why don't you answer the question, coward?
25 Jan 2018 2:38 pm
Johnson went on National TV and said that he had an informant that told him that members of the FBI were having secret off site meetings.Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 2:26 pm » wrote:One small error corrected, yes.Misty » 25 Jan 2018 2:24 pm » wrote:"Secret society, etc."
But what about the informant he said he had?
That is hardly 'one small error' you jerkoff.
Did you read Stephen Boyd's letter?Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 2:26 pm » wrote:Was the FISA Court lying when it documented extensive abuse of FISA warrants and many related crimes?
http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/01/2 ... letter.pdf
You dismiss out of hand any wrongdoing by 45 or any of his crony cult members, but you blow up a bunch of nothingburgers into the greatest scandals in human history.
You're such a **** lacky.
25 Jan 2018 2:39 pm
There's only so much of your **** that I can tolerate.Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 2:32 pm » wrote:Why did you cut out most of my post?
25 Jan 2018 2:43 pm
Post a link from the FISA court that says that, and not some **** from the wingnut site Gatewaypundit.Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 2:17 pm » wrote:Was the FISA court lying when it documented very extensive abuses of power and many crimes?
The United States Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legislative Affairs, Stephen Boyd, who was appointed by 45, said there are no FISA abuses.
http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/01/2 ... letter.pdf
25 Jan 2018 2:47 pm
In the overall scope of this scandal, it absolutely is a small error, psycho.Misty » 25 Jan 2018 2:38 pm » wrote: Johnson went on National TV and said that he had an informant that told him that members of the FBI were having secret off site meetings.
That is hardly 'one small error' you jerkoff.
You haven't paid the slightest attention to any of it.
Well gosh, who should we look at as an authoritative source, Boyd or the FISA Court itself, and NSA Director Admiral Rogers, who went to Trump Tower to warn him about it?Did you read Stephen Boyd's letter?Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 2:33 pm » wrote:Was the FISA Court's documentation of extensive abuse of power and related crimes a "squirrel," psycho?
We are currently aware of any wrongdoing related to the FISA process....
You're kidding, right?
You can't even cite a single shred of evidence beyond the minor charges filed so far.You dismiss out of hand any wrongdoing by 45 or any of his crony cult members, but you blow up a bunch of nothingburgers into the greatest scandals in human history.
You're such a **** lacky.
What do I need to deny, Dim?
There's nothing there, except your endless accusing, smears and lies.
Psychopath.
25 Jan 2018 2:55 pm
Given that you not only refuse to read the many, many sources I cite, but lie and stonewall everything, I won't waste my time.Misty » 25 Jan 2018 2:43 pm » wrote:Post a link from the FISA court that says that, and not some **** from the wingnut site Gatewaypundit.Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 2:17 pm » wrote:Was the FISA court lying when it documented very extensive abuses of power and many crimes?
Are all those many sources I mentioned lying?
Why don't you answer those questions?
You'll just lie, no matter what the evidence and smear everyone and every source I cite. Every conservative source I read supports my claims to one degree or another.
Go read what I've cited in the related threads, and comment.
Or go **** yourself.
25 Jan 2018 3:14 pm
Every publication I read and trust believes it is a huge abuse of power.Misty » 25 Jan 2018 2:13 pm » wrote:Maybe because it isn't a massive scandal.Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 12:32 pm » wrote:Trump gets it.
We all know that the corrupt liberal MSM will never adequately report this massive scandal and abuse of power.
They're in Full Coverup Mode to protect Democrats.
Who among the following are paranoid or dishonest?
I'll wait.
IBD, the WSJ, National Review, American Spectator, American Thinker, Powerline, and more.
Every political figure and commentator I can think of off the top of my head believes its a huge abuse of power.
Sara Carter, Newt Gingrich, Laura Ingraham, Joe diGenova, John Bolton, Lou Dobbs, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, and on and on.
Every Republican who has seen the Memo believes it to be a huge abuse of power.
25 Jan 2018 3:30 pm
Boyd.Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 2:47 pm » wrote:Well gosh, who should we look at as an authoritative source, Boyd or the FISA Court itself, and NSA Director Admiral Rogers, who went to Trump Tower to warn him about it?Misty » 25 Jan 2018 2:38 pm » wrote:Did you read Stephen Boyd's letter?Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 2:33 pm » wrote:Was the FISA Court's documentation of extensive abuse of power and related crimes a "squirrel," psycho?
"We are currently aware of any wrongdoing related to the FISA process...."
That crap that you have posted a hundred times from Gatewaypundit is garbage.
I knew it had to be ****, so I finally decided to check it out.
First of all it talks about sections 704 and 705 of FISA, which have to do with U.S. persons who are outside of the U.S..
(So you're trying to make it look like Obama was spying on Trump or his cronies who were inside the U.S. is a bunch of ****.)
And secondly, it talks about 'non-compliant queries' which does not necessarily mean that anything was illegal.
A compliance violation, just means that someone may not have strictly adhered to a guideline.
It does not mean that anyone abused their power, or broke a law.
The DNI's office does a semi-annual assessment of FISA's compliance with procedures and guidelines.
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Sem ... 20FISA.pdf
You can see some examples of compliance violations here:
Inadvertent, unintentional and not willful.A History of FISA Section 702 Compliance Violations
The four timelines below display records of compliance violations with Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
The first timeline displays all violations, and the following three timelines provide a more granular look at separate categories of violations.
These timelines are the only publicly available resources that provide a comprehensive view of the types and patterns of compliance violations over the course of the existence of Section 702.
While these violations are not willful—they are inadvertent or unintentional—they are extremely concerning.
Does that sound like an 'abuse of power' to you?
25 Jan 2018 3:43 pm
****. NSA Director Admiral Rogers traveled all the way to NY to warn Trump about the abuse.Misty » 25 Jan 2018 3:30 pm » wrote: That crap that you have posted a hundred times from Gatewaypundit is garbage.
I knew it had to be ****, so I finally decided to check it out.
First of all it talks about sections 704 and 705 of FISA, which have to do with U.S. persons who are outside of the U.S..
(So you're trying to make it look like Obama was spying on Trump or his cronies who were inside the U.S. is a bunch of ****.)
After Trump immediately moved his transition team to a facility at his golf course.
And Congressional investigators have discovered wrongdoing including felonies using this secondary surveillance information.
You're a day late and $1 million bucks behind, trying to google when I've spent weeks citing breaking news.
And secondly, it talks about 'non-compliant queries' which does not necessarily mean that anything was illegal.
A compliance violation, just means that someone may not have strictly adhered to a guideline.
It does not mean that anyone abused their power, or broke a law.
Except that we are far, far, FAR beyond that point, psycho.
Nunes and every Republican who has seen the memo are all saying this is an abuse of power.
Journalists and public figures who know and trust them like Gingrich all agree.
How the heck would that group know better than Admiral Rogers and the Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee?You can see some examples of compliance violations here:
Inadvertent, unintentional and not willful.
Does that sound like an 'abuse of power' to you?
Not to mention, it's dated last September, and what's revealed supersedes it.
25 Jan 2018 3:47 pm
If you honestly wanted to check this out, you'd take the time to read Gateway, which doesn't do reporting or investigating on its own.Misty » 25 Jan 2018 3:30 pm » wrote:That crap that you have posted a hundred times from Gatewaypundit is garbage.
I knew it had to be ****, so I finally decided to check it out.
It only cites other sources, and there are always links to those sources.
Instead, you babble,"Gateway, Gateway" in a pathetic attempt to deny this scandal.
As you have done for years with every Democrat scandal.
You don't have the slightest intent to appraise this honestly, only to stonewall and deny.
Just like you stonewalled all the felonies and impeachable acts Clinton committed.
Just like you stonewalled all the serious scandals under Obama.
Just like you stonewalled all the crimes committed by Hillary Clinton.
25 Jan 2018 3:54 pm
Oh, and the other ugly part of this scandal is that information was illegally given to "outside groups."Misty » 25 Jan 2018 3:30 pm » wrote:That crap that you have posted a hundred times from Gatewaypundit is garbage.
I knew it had to be ****, so I finally decided to check it out.
According to Joe deGenova, among those groups were organizations connected to Hillary Clinton and the DNC, including Fusion GPS and Crowdstrike, who bleachbited Hillary's hard drive.
Gosh, nothing suspicious there, right?
.
25 Jan 2018 3:56 pm
Of course not. You can't.Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 2:55 pm » wrote:Given that you not only refuse to read the many, many sources I cite, but lie and stonewall everything, I won't waste my time.Misty » 25 Jan 2018 2:43 pm » wrote:Post a link from the FISA court that says that, and not some **** from the wingnut site Gatewaypundit.Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 2:17 pm » wrote:Was the FISA court lying when it documented very extensive abuses of power and many crimes?
Are all those many sources I mentioned lying?
Why don't you answer those questions?
Because the FISA court NEVER 'documented very extensive abuses of power and many crimes.'
I proved that in my last post.
When are you going to stop trusting sites like Gatewaypundit that post distorted and misleading ****?
They make you look like a fool, not that you need much help in that.
25 Jan 2018 4:11 pm
Do they link to Sputnik when they post propaganda from them?Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 3:47 pm » wrote:If you honestly wanted to check this out, you'd take the time to read Gateway, which doesn't do reporting or investigating on its own.Misty » 25 Jan 2018 3:30 pm » wrote:That crap that you have posted a hundred times from Gatewaypundit is garbage.
I knew it had to be ****, so I finally decided to check it out.
It only cites other sources, and there are always links to those sources.
A journalist sacked by the Kremlin-funded Sputnik news network claimed that right-wing U.S. outlets regularly disseminate fake news and conspiracy theories touted by the site.
In an appearance on MSNBC’s The Beat with Ari Melber Tuesday, former White House correspondent Andrew Feinberg accused Sputnik of being “foreign propaganda, not news.”
He went on to claim that Sputnik’s influence on right-wing, pro-Trump, news websites is pervasive: “Many of the most popular articles about things like WikiLeaks and pizzagate and other conspiracy theories were prominently featured on the Sputnik website,” said Feinberg.
“And they get picked up by other American outlets – by Infowars, Breitbart and Gateway Pundit – right-wing media outlets, and Sputnik functions as part of this right-wing media ecosystem.”
http://www.newsweek.com/right-wing-us-n ... nik-664241
I went straight to the DNI's assessment of FISA compliance.
Not Sputnik.
The Gateway Pundit (TGP) is a right-wing, far-right, pro-Trump website.
The website is known for publishing falsehoods and spreading hoaxes.
The Gateway Pundit has promoted false rumors about voter fraud and Hillary Clinton’s health.
In October 2017, The Gateway Pundit published an article falsely implicating an innocent person as the shooter in the 2017 Las Vegas shooting.
The article was promoted by Google as a "top story" for searches for his name.
Gateway Pundit asserted that New York Times reporter Rukmini Callimachi had reported that ISIS may have evidence that it was behind the shooting, but Callimachi rejected that she had ever made such an assertion.
In December 2017, Gateway Pundit published a reddit post as evidence that Democratic activists were committing voter fraud in the 2017 Alabama Senate special election.
The redditor behind the post later said that the post was intended "as an obvious troll."
When asked by the Washington Post, the writer of the Gateway Pundit post declined to say whether he had contacted the redditor to verify the information; later the Gateway Pundit story contained an update at the bottom: "Liberals say these are fake Reddit posts(?) Regardless, the posts are still up on Reddit and the posters are still encouraging Democrats to cheat."
Gateway Pundit published other falsehoods during the campaign for the Alabama Senate seat.
In January 2018, Gateway Pundit published a false story that Chuck Schumer received half a million dollars from pro-immigration groups just before a vote related to the United States federal government shutdown of 2018.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit
25 Jan 2018 4:14 pm
Speaking of looking like a fool, you're the imbecile who's trying to debate this not in the thread where my documentation is which you haven't read, but in your thread.Misty » 25 Jan 2018 3:56 pm » wrote:Of course not. You can't.
Because the FISA court NEVER 'documented very extensive abuses of power and many crimes.'
I proved that in my last post.
When are you going to stop trusting sites like Gatewaypundit that post distorted and misleading ****?
They make you look like a fool, not that you need much help in that.
How freaking stupid is that?
The court is writing in legal terminology, but given that, it's quite obvious the court agrees with my take on this.
FISA Court Finds "Serious Fourth Amendment Issue" In Obama's "Widespread" Illegal Searches Of American Citizens
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A newly released court order from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) found that the National Security Agency, under former President Obama, routinely violated American privacy protections while scouring through overseas intercepts and failed to disclose the extent of the problems until the final days before Donald Trump was elected president last fall. In describing the violations, the FISA court said the illegal searches conducted by the NSA under Obama were "widespread" and created a "very serious Fourth Amendment issue."
These new discoveries come from a recently unsealed FISA court document dated April 26, 2017 and center around a hearing dated October 26, 2017, just days before the 2016 election, in which the FISA court apparently learned for the first time of "widespread" and illegal spying on American citizens by the NSA under the Obama administration.
"The October 26, 2016 Notice disclosed that an NSA Inspector General (IG) review...indicated that, with greater frequency than previously disclosed to the Court, NSA analysts had used U.S.-person identifiers to query the result of Internet "upstream" collection, even though NSA's section 702 minimization procedures prohibited such queries...this disclosure gave the Court substantial concern."
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05- ... egal-searc
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