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Misty » 25 Jan 2018 4:11 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 3:47 pm » wrote:If you honestly wanted to check this out, you'd take the time to read Gateway, which doesn't do reporting or investigating on its own.

It only cites other sources, and there are always links to those sources.

Do they link to Sputnik when they post propaganda from them?

Misty » 25 Jan 2018 4:11 pm » wrote:Do they link to Sputnik when they post propaganda from them?


I went straight to the DNI's assessment of FISA compliance.
Not Sputnik.

Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 4:17 pm » wrote:

Misty » 25 Jan 2018 4:11 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 3:47 pm » wrote:If you honestly wanted to check this out, you'd take the time to read Gateway, which doesn't do reporting or investigating on its own.

It only cites other sources, and there are always links to those sources.

Do they link to Sputnik when they post propaganda from them?

Obviously you have just about zero interest in an honest discussion.

You're back to your stupid Russia! Russia! **** while ignoring factual evidence I cite.

What a complete and utter joke you are, geez.

Misty » 25 Jan 2018 4:11 pm » wrote:Do they link to Sputnik when they post propaganda from them?

The Gateway Pundit (TGP) is a right-wing, far-right, pro-Trump website.
The website is known for publishing falsehoods and spreading hoaxes.
The Gateway Pundit has promoted false rumors about
voter fraud and
Hillary Clinton’s health.

What a **** joke you are, geez.

Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 4:19 pm » wrote:

Misty » 25 Jan 2018 4:11 pm » wrote:Do they link to Sputnik when they post propaganda from them?

So cite a conspiracy theory Gateway has put out that I've cited.

Misty » 25 Jan 2018 4:30 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 4:17 pm » wrote:Obviously you have just about zero interest in an honest discussion.

You're back to your stupid Russia! Russia! **** while ignoring factual evidence I cite.

What a complete and utter joke you are, geez.

What?
A guy who worked for Sputnik says that Gatewaypundit picks up stories from Sputnik.
Did they report the false stories I mentioned in my last post or not?
Should I track them down for you?

Misty » 25 Jan 2018 4:36 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 4:19 pm » wrote:So cite a conspiracy theory Gateway has put out that I've cited.

Was that goalpost very heavy when you moved it?
You were arguing that Gatewaypundit is a credible source, and when I pointed out that they have posted FAKE News and phony conspiracy theories, you changed the argument to whether or not YOU have ever cited any of them.

ROFL......jackass.

How can they be a credible source if they post conspiracy theories and FAKE News stories?

Whether or not you have ever cited one of those stories has nothing to do with their credibility.

I am so done with you and your ****.

Misty » 25 Jan 2018 4:36 pm » wrote:Was that goalpost very heavy when you moved it?
You were arguing that Gatewaypundit is a credible source, and when I pointed out that they have posted FAKE News and phony conspiracy theories, you changed the argument to whether or not YOU have ever cited any of them.

ROFL......jackass.

How can they be a credible source if they post conspiracy theories and FAKE News stories?

Whether or not you have ever cited one of those stories has nothing to do with their credibility.

I am so done with you and your ****.

Misty » 25 Jan 2018 4:36 pm » wrote:ROFL......jackass.

How can they be a credible source if they post conspiracy theories and FAKE News stories?

Whether or not you have ever cited one of those stories has nothing to do with their credibility.

I am so done with you and your ****.

U.S. TOURISM DECLINING, BUT IT’S NOT BECAUSE OF TRUMP
MEDIA DUB DROP IN TOURISM THAT BEGAN UNDER OBAMA 'TRUMP SLUMP'
Donald TrumpGetty Images
BY: Elizabeth Harrington — January 25, 2018 5:00 am
The United States is seeing a decline in tourism, though media outlets blaming President Donald Trump are ignoring that the drop preceded his presidency.


Growth of the dollar, economic growth, and increased competition has made the US a more expensive tourist destination
'The United States continues to be an aspirational destination'
http://freebeacon.com/politics/u-s-tour ... not-trump/

Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 4:43 pm » wrote:

Misty » 25 Jan 2018 4:36 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 4:19 pm » wrote:So cite a conspiracy theory Gateway has put out that I've cited.

Was that goalpost very heavy when you moved it?
You were arguing that Gatewaypundit is a credible source, and when I pointed out that they have posted FAKE News and phony conspiracy theories, you changed the argument to whether or not YOU have ever cited any of them.

ROFL......jackass.

How can they be a credible source if they post conspiracy theories and FAKE News stories?

Whether or not you have ever cited one of those stories has nothing to do with their credibility.

Utter ****, as usual. That any source makes an occasional mistake is routine, because your sources make mistakes.

I can write for hours about the MSM's Fake News, and they often fell for Soviet propaganda. In fact, CNN recently had a Fake News story about Cuba's glorious health care.

So great, by your psychopath standard, everything you cite from the MSM can be rejected as invalid.
There, happy psycho?

I am so done with you and your ****.

Of course you are. I backed up my claim about FISA abuse citing FISA documents, which of course you refuse to admit.

So you babble stupidly about Russian propaganda instead.

Psychopath.

Let’s Wait and See about the FBI ‘Conspiracy’
By Jonah Goldberg

The heated rhetoric from Hill Republicans, talk radio, and some Fox News opiners is rapidly approaching eleven on a ten-point scale.

Yesterday, Rush floated the idea that the Deep State might be so pernicious that it deceived George W. Bush into the Iraq War.

Lou Dobbs wants “top people” at the FBI taken into custody by U.S. Marshals.

Ditto Hannity and Pirro.

And, of course, Jerry Falwell Jr. is in on the act.

But when Senator Ron Johnson got over his skis last night asserting not just bias but “corruption” at the FBI and hyping claims from an “informant” of a “secret society” scheming to do . . . something, I got a bad feeling.

Asked by Bret Baier to clarify what, exactly, the senator was insinuating, Johnson responded with little more than a shrug and a statement that the matter needs to be dug into.

On the left, everyone is laughing and heaping scorn on this alleged effort to distract from the Mueller probe, which they all seem convinced will find proof that Donald Trump is indeed a foreign agent obstructing justice for fun and profit.

Me? I’m stuck in the middle again.

From the outset, I’ve mostly taken a wait-and-see approach to the Russia “collusion” allegations and the Mueller probe.

I think I’ll take a wait-and-see approach to all of this Strzok-Page-secret-society stuff too.

There’s just too much theatrics and chest thumping involved.

By all means, let’s have the appropriate investigations. Let’s have some hearings.

Let’s make it so that poor Andy McCarthy never, ever gets any sleep, as he remains one of the few explainers of this stuff who never loses his cool or takes leave from the facts.

Again, there are some legitimately disturbing facts (and allegations of facts) swirling around the FBI, the Mueller investigation, etc.

But there’s also an astonishing amount of manufactured outrage, absurd dot-connecting, and near-hysteria.

It’s as if everyone who shouts about the other side being conspiracy theorists needs to have a conspiracy theory all their own as well.

Meanwhile, this #ReleaseTheMemo campaign is obviously a PR stunt.

But that in itself is not damning.

PR stunts are sometimes valid efforts to get a real story out.

I’m actually impressed that congressional Republicans were effective at messaging for once.

I wouldn’t have predicted that it would work this well.

After all, Republicans insinuating that a memo written by a Republican committee chairman in a Republican-controlled Congress during a Republican presidency is being hidden from the public by some force or entity other than the Republicans strikes me as kind of hilarious.

As is the idea that all of these Republicans saw it, but no one leaked it because leaking is just wrong.
(It is wrong, but come on.)

That said . . . hey, it was just crazy enough to work.

Of course, this stunt — and so much else — will look not just absurd but dishonorable if the memo doesn’t live up to the hype.

That’s why I’d caution Republican politicians from taking their cues from President Trump’s Twitter feed or the media platforms that unapologetically fuel his persecution complex.

If professional opiners want to go the way of Alex Jones and Jim Hoft, fine.

But the GOP itself should think twice.

If Ron Johnson’s performance on Special Report last night is a preview of what is yet to come, I think some Republicans may be painting themselves into an ugly corner.

If you go all in with this conspiracy mongering, the only way to be vindicated is if the conspiracy is 100 percent verified.

How often does that happen?

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/45 ... roach-best

Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 4:43 pm » wrote:I backed up my claim about FISA abuse citing FISA documents, which of course you refuse to admit.

Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 4:44 pm » wrote:I backed up my claim about FISA abuse citing FISA documents and you can't deal with it.

Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 5:02 pm » wrote:Say, speaking of Fake News, you blamed Trump for the decline in tourism.
I expect you never again to cite anyone from the MSM, because they spread the Fake News.

U.S. TOURISM DECLINING, BUT IT’S NOT BECAUSE OF TRUMP

http://freebeacon.com/politics/u-s-tour ... not-trump/

NYT: Trump called for Mueller's firing in June 2017

President Donald Trump called for special counsel Robert Mueller's firing last June, The New York Times reported Thursday evening, citing four people told of the matter.

But the President never went through with the order, according to the Times report, because White House counsel Don McGahn threatened to quit instead of carrying out the order.

"We decline to comment out of respect for the Office of the Special Counsel and its process," White House lawyer Ty Cobb told CNN.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/25/politics ... index.html

Misty » 25 Jan 2018 4:36 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 4:19 pm » wrote:

Misty » 25 Jan 2018 4:11 pm » wrote:Do they link to Sputnik when they post propaganda from them?

So cite a conspiracy theory Gateway has put out that I've cited.

Was that goalpost very heavy when you moved it?
You were arguing that Gatewaypundit is a credible source, and when I pointed out that they have posted FAKE News and phony conspiracy theories, you changed the argument to whether or not YOU have ever cited any of them.

ROFL......jackass.

How can they be a credible source if they post conspiracy theories and FAKE News stories?

Whether or not you have ever cited one of those stories has nothing to do with their credibility.

I am so done with you and your ****.

Misty » 25 Jan 2018 6:28 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 4:43 pm » wrote: I backed up my claim about FISA abuse citing FISA documents, which of course you refuse to admit.

Nothing you posted documented the 'very extensive abuses of power and many crimes' that you keep screeching about.


Maybe if you repeat it enough it might come true.

Misty » 25 Jan 2018 6:35 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 25 Jan 2018 5:02 pm » wrote:Say, speaking of Fake News, you blamed Trump for the decline in tourism.

I expect you never again to cite anyone from the MSM, because they spread the Fake News.

Oh look.....The Washington Free Beacon.
The organization who hired Fusion GPS to dig up dirt on 45.

during the 2016 election cycle we retained Fusion GPS to provide research on multiple candidates in the Republican presidential primary, just as we retained other firms to assist in our research into Hillary Clinton. All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to the Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier.The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele. Nor did we have any knowledge of the relationship between Fusion GPS and the Democratic National Committee, Perkins Coie, and the Clinton campaign.
Representatives of the Free Beacon approached the House Intelligence Committee today and offered to answer what questions we can in their ongoing probe of Fusion GPS and the Steele dossier. But to be clear: We stand by our reporting

Misty » 25 Jan 2018 8:02 pm » wrote:

NYT: Trump called for Mueller's firing in June 2017

That's not a denial.
This is the second time this week that we have heard about someone in his administration threatening to resign rather than carry out his order to fire someone.

Termin8tor » 24 Jan 2018 3:11 pm » wrote:
Of course he wants people who are politically loyal. Every president does, Dim.

It's not a no-no at all.

Misty » 25 Jan 2018 2:13 pm » wrote: Maybe because it isn't a massive scandal.

The Justice Department and the FBI are reportedly angry that, after they complied with the Intelligence Committee’s demand that they make classified and investigative materials available for inspection, Nunes will not permit the FBI to inspect his memo summarizing that information before moving to disclose it. The irony here is rich.

These executive-branch agencies did not cooperatively comply with congressional investigators; they stonewalled for five months. To this day they are stonewalling: Just this weekend, they belatedly fessed up that the FBI had failed to preserve five months’ worth of text messages — something they had to have known for months. An American who impeded a federal investigation the way federal investigators are impeding congressional investigations would swiftly find himself in legal jeopardy.

Moreover, it is not like the Justice Department and FBI did Nunes a favor and are thus in a position to impose conditions; Congress is entitled to the information it has sought in its oversight capacity.....

On the record thus far, the committee has every reason to believe that submitting the Nunes memo for review by the Justice Department and FBI will result in more delay and foot-dragging. Clearly, there is a strategy to slow-walk compliance in hopes that events — such as, say, a midterm-election victory that returns the House to Democratic control — will abort congressional investigations of the investigators.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... -see-in-it