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Misty » 31 Jan 2018 6:35 pm » wrote: You don't have to be charged with any underlying crime to be charged with obstruction.
Interfering with an investigation (obstruction) is in itself a crime.

Misty » 31 Jan 2018 5:23 pm » wrote:

Devin Nunes Won't Say If He Worked With White House on Anti-FBI Memo

I guess that's a yes then.
Nunes once again carrying water for the WH just like he did with his little midnight run stunt.
If he is working with the WH on this, that sounds pretty much like a conspiracy to obstruct justice.

Misty » 31 Jan 2018 6:35 pm » wrote:You don't have to be charged with any underlying crime to be charged with obstruction.
Interfering with an investigation (obstruction) is in itself a crime.

Misty » 29 Jan 2018 2:09 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 29 Jan 2018 1:57 pm » wrote:I asked you which of the publications and names I listed aren't mainstream.

As usual your question was based on a false premise.
You don't use any of those sources on any kind of a regular basis any more.
You almost always use wingnut conspiracy sites like Gatewaypundit.

Misty » 31 Jan 2018 6:35 pm » wrote:

Bigsky » 31 Jan 2018 5:34 pm » wrote:Russian collusion isn't a crime and requires no justice.....so how could he obstruct it?

You don't have to be charged with any underlying crime to be charged with obstruction.
Interfering with an investigation (obstruction) is in itself a crime.

Termin8tor » 31 Jan 2018 10:51 pm » wrote:

Misty » 31 Jan 2018 6:35 pm » wrote:

Bigsky » 31 Jan 2018 5:34 pm » wrote:Russian collusion isn't a crime and requires no justice.....so how could he obstruct it?

You don't have to be charged with any underlying crime to be charged with obstruction.
Interfering with an investigation (obstruction) is in itself a crime.

That is just too **** funny.

I smell desperation.

Misty » 31 Jan 2018 3:27 pm » wrote:
Another lie.
Seems his mind is already made up about it without any legal or national security review.

Christopher Wray and Rod Rosenstein have serious issues with the memos, so will he ignore his own people?

Misty » 31 Jan 2018 6:21 pm » wrote:CIA Director Mike Pompeo says that he has every expectation that the Russians will meddle in the 2018 mid term elections yet he recently invited a Russian spy who is under sanction to meet with him here in the U.S..

Sergey Naryshkin has been on a U.S. Treasury Department list of sanctioned individuals for involvement in the situation in Ukraine since 2014, and is barred from entering the country.

Oh my! Russians! Russians! Russians!

Trump Has Got Democrats Right Where He Wants Them
Thomas B. Edsall FEB. 1, 2018
President Trump’s immigration proposal has put Democrats in a bind; they know it and he knows it.
Trump’s immigration “framework” — first outlined on Jan. 25 — represents an unusually sophisticated strategy. He proposes to more than double the number of Dreamers granted a path to citizenship, a significant concession to Democrats.

In return, he seeks approval of a set of policies strongly opposed by the left...

Trump’s proposal more than meets Democratic demands on DACA. But in return Trump wants Democrats to swallow three proposals of varying unpalatability.

First, the creation of a $25 billion fund for construction of a southern border wall to prevent illegal entry to the United States, primarily by undocumented Hispanics.

Second, a shift in immigration priorities from family reunification to a merit system granting entry to workers with relatively high skills. This would require limiting reunification preferences to minor children and spouses, while eliminating them for parents, siblings and adult children, what critics call “chain migration.” These steps would reduce immigration from developing countries: The two top countries of origin benefiting from family reunification policies are Mexico and the Dominican Republic.

Third, an end to the Diversity Immigrant Visa Program. The countries providing the largest numbers of immigrants under the lottery visa program, according to the State Department, are Cameroon, Congo, Liberia, Egypt, Iran, Nepal, Ukraine and Uzbekistan.

The greatest unknown is how immigration reform will influence the voting behavior of the white working class.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/01/opin ... %2Fopinion

Misty » 31 Jan 2018 5:23 pm » wrote: I guess that's a yes then.
Nunes once again carrying water for the WH just like he did with his little midnight run stunt.
If he is working with the WH on this, that sounds pretty much like a conspiracy to obstruct justice.

If the GOP memo is as advertised we’ll see the deep state at its most frightening
Andrew Napolitano By Judge Andrew P. Napolitano | Fox News
...Late last week, when it became apparent that the Republican memo would soon be released, the Department of Justice publicly contradicted President Trump by advising the leadership of the House Intelligence Committee in very strong terms that the memo should not be released to the public.

It soon became apparent that, notwithstanding the DOJ admonition, no one in the DOJ had actually seen the memo. So FBI Director Chris Wray made a secret, hurried trip to the House Intelligence Committee’s vault last Sunday afternoon to view the memo. When asked by the folks who showed it to him whether it contains secret or top-secret material, he couldn’t or wouldn’t say. But he apparently saw in the memo the name of the No. 2 person at the FBI, Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, as one of the abusers of spying authority. That triggered McCabe’s summary departure from the FBI the next day, after a career of 30 years.

The abuse summarized in the Republican memo apparently spans the last year of the Obama administration and the first year of the Trump administration. If it comes through as advertised, it will show the deep state using the government’s powers for petty or political or ideological reasons.

The use of raw intelligence data by the NSA or the FBI for political purposes or to manipulate those in government is as serious a threat to popular government -- to personal liberty in a free society -- as has ever occurred in America since Congress passed the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798, which punished speech critical of the government.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/02/ ... ening.html

Misty » 28 Jan 2018 7:18 pm » wrote:Tomorrow is a YUGE day. It's Trump's deadline to implement the "election interference" sanctions against Russia which the Senate voted 98-2 in favor of. If he doesn't, he is admitting that Putin has dirt on him.

Ed Krassenstein

No criminal charges pending against Krassenstein brothers
Oct.05, 2017 in MLM, regulation
Two days ago I became aware of an asset seizure related to a property owned by Edward and Brian Krassenstein.
The brothers are the owners of the now closed Ponzi promotion platforms, MoneyMakerGroup and TalkGold.
In their forfeiture complaint, filed August 21st, the DOJ accused the Krassenstein brothers of conspiring to commit wire fraud. This strongly implied that the Krassenstein brothers were facing a wire fraud case of their own.
http://behindmlm.com/mlm/no-criminal-ch ... -brothers/

Misty » 29 Jan 2018 3:08 pm » wrote:So your 'EVIDENCE' against McCabe is from a book by Howard Kurtz?

Seriously?

The memo is said to provide evidence proving allegations that top officials in President Obama’s national security community abused their authority to obtain surveillance warrants against members of President Trump’s election campaign from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. Its release could set in motion a process whereby bad actors in the government could go to prison. It may indicate that government officials relied on the tainted Fusion GPS dossier by former British spy Christopher Steele that is loaded with Kremlin-supplied misinformationto obtain the warrants. The dossier, as we now know, was paid for by Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign, and was part of her bag of dirty tricks.

“If you’re interested whether or not the dossier was used in court proceedings, whether or not it was funded by political opponents, you’ll want to see the memo,” Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) said Tuesday. "My Democratic colleagues didn’t want us to find this information. They did everything they could to keep us from finding this information.”
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/269197 ... thew-vadum

Misty » 31 Jan 2018 6:21 pm » wrote:CIA Director Mike Pompeo says that he has every expectation that the Russians will meddle in the 2018 mid term elections yet he recently invited a Russian spy who is under sanction to meet with him here in the U.S..

Sergey Naryshkin has been on a U.S. Treasury Department list of sanctioned individuals for involvement in the situation in Ukraine since 2014, and is barred from entering the country.

Misty » 01 Feb 2018 11:37 am » wrote:Wow! Somebody has been a busy little beaver.

roadkill » 01 Feb 2018 11:43 am » wrote:
Hey Misty...did you see my knew Michael Wolff thread?

It's a real keeper.

roadkill » 01 Feb 2018 11:43 am » wrote:
Hey Misty...did you see my knew Michael Wolff thread?

It's a real keeper.

Misty » 01 Feb 2018 11:37 am » wrote:Wow! Somebody has been a busy little beaver.

Termin8tor » 01 Feb 2018 12:51 pm » wrote:
Ask her why the MSM were fawning all over and author they knew was a liar and fabricator.

And why we shouldn't reject all the corrupt MSM as sources, like she rejected Gateway.