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Apparently, Skeptic "tagged" Avenger of Justice. LOLBy the way someone removed my "RichClem's Owner" tag. Can you or Misty bring it back?

Crossposted in this thread:The Day Democracy Died Michigan Gov. wants power to FIRE elected officials.In what can only be described as Financial Martial Law, the local government of the town of Benton Harbor Michigan has been taken over by an Emergency Financial Manager appointed by the governor.Benton Harbor is a poor town, but they do have one thing. A beautiful lakefront park named Jean Klock Park, which was a gift to the community......In 1917, John and Carrie Klock deeded a half mile of lake Michigan frontage to the City of Benton Harbor Michigan in memory of their deceased daughter Jean. Their gift consisted of 90 acres of globally rare natural resources that included Great Lakes Dunes, a Great Lakes Marsh and interdunal wetlands. The donated land was named Jean Klock Park and was dedicated "FOR THE CHILDREN" - "in perpetuity" - "FOREVER."http://www.savejeanklockpark.org/ The law that makes such extreme measures possible, Michigan‘s Emergency Financial Manager Law, was sponsored by this new state legislator. His name is Al Pscholka. Pscholka is a former staffer for the local congressman, a man named Fred Upton, also a Republican. Fred Upton is heir to the Whirlpool fortune. Benton Harbor is the home of Whirpool's corporate headquarters.Whirlpool has been trying to get it's hands on Jean Klock Park for years, to build a Jack Nicklaus Signature golf course and a glitzy second home community that would become the “Harbor Shores Golf and Beach Club."Mr. Pscholka represents the district that includes Benton Harbor. He‘s run a mentoring program there. He says he knows the city well. It‘s been in his backyard for a very long time. Also he happens to be a former vice president for one of the major entities involved in building the luxury golf development that is set to remake Benton Harbor.Until last year, Pscholka served as a member of the nonprofit‘s board of directors—the same one behind the golf course. No conflict there, huh?Rachel Maddow did two segments on her show about this issue.This is something that should outrage every American.It's the privatization of government and just as the title of my thread mentioned above says, the death of democracy.Video-Monday 4-18-11Video-Tuesday 4-19-11 Edited by MistyBlue, 20 April 2011 - 02:32 PM.

When I was a boy, I lived in a shoebox in the middle of the road. I worked 26 hours/day, and when I got home, my father would rip into me with a bread knife!Well, that would explain your utter indifference to other people's suffering. Psychology 101: Projection is the art of the ugly human soul.HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Bleats the fawning Clinton toady who smeared the woman he raped. Speaking of ugly human souls, you have a black, black heart.(By the way it's impossible to work 26 hours a day)Or to live in a shoebox, duuuh! I'm paraphrasing a Monty Python comedy skit.I defended the right of businesses to hire these employees if the contract was honored and work environment reasonable.Nothing from your comments bears any resemblance to "reasonable." It's full of sh*t.Lies the troll.Let's just send those people back where they will live in even worse conditions earning 1/5 or so the wages.Typical moonbat liberal; lie, smear and wreck the lives of others.Say, how's that roaring Obama Economy doing with its glorious 11.5% real unemployment rate and 10% annual inflation?Come on, give an honest answer. Just kidding. We both know you won't.By the way someone removed my "RichClem's Owner" tag.You couldn't own a pet turtle, you silly little twit.

By the way someone removed my "RichClem's Owner" tag. Can you or Misty bring it back?I don't have that power.Ask the Chief Moderator, The Honorable RichClem.He has quite the Magic Wand. Actually, I seem to have quite a magic wand now.Oh but I forgot, he doesn't have his Moderator software.That's right, you haven't seemed to be able to master the most basic of moderator functions and capabilities.I don't have the software to give me the most basic of functions and capabilities.

I don't have that power.Ask the Chief Moderator, The Honorable RichClem.He has quite the Magic Wand. You got that right.But gosh, you stonewalled my questions again. I'm shocked, shocked.Say, how's that roaring Obama Economy doing with its glorious 11.5% real unemployment rate and 10% annual inflation?Come on, give an honest answer. Just kidding. We both know you won't.

Atlas Shrugged has about the same ratings from critics as "Avatar: The Last Airbender" ROFLhttp://www.rottentom...hrugged_part_i/http://www.rottentom...last_airbender/CLUMP HOW'D YOU ENJOY THE MOVIE? HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Just don't try having sex that way. Ever.Anyway we have RW monkey d*psh&ts trying to roll back child labor laws. Guess which side Clump will support?Yes, they are trying to roll back the 20th century.April 23, 2011 | Photo Credit: Lewis Hine LIKE THIS ARTICLE ?Join our mailing list:Sign up to stay up to date on the latest headlines via email. grab this widget | start a petition | by Care2 The fact that we're debating the social benefits of child labor laws in the second decade of the 21st century casts the madness that's gripped our right-wing in sharp relief. It took a hard-fought, century-long battle to get compliant kids working for slave-wages out of American workplaces, and that battle was supposedly won 73 years ago during the New Deal.But according to Ian Milhiser, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has called for a return to a discredited theory of the Constitution that early twentieth century justices used to declare federal child labor laws unconstitutional in three separate decisions. In January, Senator Mike Lee, R-Utah, said that children's employment was a states' rights issue, and their regulation by the federal government is unconstitutional. Milhiser noted that many GOP elected officials have embraced rhetoric suggesting that they agree, but have stopped short of coming out and saying as much.Read the rest at: http://www.alternet....bor_laws?page=1

Atlas Shrugged has about the same ratings from critics as "Avatar: The Last Airbender" ROFLCLUMP HOW'D YOU ENJOY THE MOVIE? HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Just don't try having sex that way. Ever.Please never mention Clem and sex in the same post ever again. Anyway we have RW monkey d*psh&ts trying to roll back child labor laws. Guess which side Clump will support?You know how those Republicans love cheap labor.

40% of Americans say they can't afford retirement.NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Gone are the plans to golf, garden or read on a creaky porch swing. Almost 40% of working Americans said they will never afford retirement, according to a report released Wednesday by the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants.Retirement ranked as the most important issue out of all financial concerns facing Americans, including uninsured medical expenses and rising education costs. In fact, it topped the list for the second year in a row, the survey said. The majority, or 56%, of those polled said they were not saving for retirement, mostly because of the toll higher gas and food prices were taking on their budgets. Fifty-five percent said they didn't even know how much they need to save for retirement, while those that thought they did know often underestimated the amount, the AICPA said. Most workers have saved just $25,000 for retirementWhen asked to estimate how much savings they needed to retire at age 65 and live for 20 years, most of those earning $50,000 to $75,000 a year said they needed $250,000 in savings. But assuming inflation and annual expenses of $50,000, that amount would run out in less than 10 years, the AICPA said. "These statistics suggest we are on the verge of a retirement crisis in America," Jordan Amin, chairman of the National CPA Financial Literacy Commission, said in a statement. "Americans don't know how to prepare for their twilight years, and many have put off figuring it out because they're struggling to make ends meet now."Mark Carruthers, a New York-based certified financial planner who specializes in retirement planning, said many of his retired clients often take distributions from their IRAs or other accounts to supplement their retirement savings. "I haven't met a client yet who just told me they saved too much for retirement," Carruthers said. "Most people don't start early enough and aren't investing long enough to reach their goal." Younger workers had the biggest discrepancy between expectations for retirement and how to prepare for it, according to the AICPA. Sixty percent of those aged 18 to 24 said they'll be able to retire, but 74% of those in that age bracket had no idea how much to save to make that happen.

Governor Rick Snyder [R-Michigan] strikes again with his Financial Martial Law.Detroit Public Schools To Be CorporatizedThe push toward the corporatization of the state of Michigan picked up steam as approximately a dozen teachers, teen mothers and their children were arrested in Detroit after staging a peaceful sit-in protest at the Catherine Ferguson Academy. The sit-in was organized to protest Emergency Financial Manager Robert Bobb's announcement that he was closing the highly successful and unique school for pregnant and parenting teens. The school provides pre-natal and parenting classes and gives high school student mothers the opportunity to finish their high school degrees by providing on-site child care and other support services. Catherine Ferguson Academy is just one of the eight schools targeted for closure by the Bobb, who also announced plans to sell up to 45 state schools to charter companies as well.Despite efforts by parents, students and faculty to meet with Bobb, their pleas were ignored.And like the move to shut down and privatize the town of Benton Harbor, it is hard to miss the underlying racial hostility and animus in such a move. It would be one thing if the school were failing--it's not. In fact the school boasts a 90% graduation rate and 100% college and higher education acceptance upon graduation.Instead, it shows that what Michigan Republicans, and indeed Republicans nationwide have decided is that the public is no longer worthy of public funds, let alone support.Rachel Maddow did a segment on the Catherine Ferguson Academy last night. This school for teens who are pregnant or have had a child gives these girls their best shot at getting an education. It has a 90% graduation rate.VIDEO

Atlas Shrugged has about the same ratings from critics as "Avatar: The Last Airbender" ROFLhttp://www.rottentom...hrugged_part_i/http://www.rottentom...last_airbender/CLUMP HOW'D YOU ENJOY THE MOVIE? HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Glory Hole gave the movie two thumbs up. In an eponymous thread about the movie, he defended it quite insightfully against its critics by pointing out that Clinon was a serial rapist.

Detroit Public Schools To Be CorporatizedOh no, those evil corporations are going to homogenize our kids!Best leave them in failed Government Monopoly Schools, like the wonderful ones in Detroit, the Bronx, East LA, etc, right?You think you scare people by mentioning the word "corporation?"Only Marxists like yourself.Do you buy food from, gasp, corporations? Buy your car from, double-gasp, a corporation? Duuh.Moonbat like you would end that relative prosperity.Only an assclown like you would call indentured servitude 'relative prosperity'.A lying partisan hack like you would paint 4-5 times their home wages "indentured servitude."If an Indian software writer comes to work in the US on contract for 4-5 times his home wages, would you call that "indentured servitude?"It's called contract labor, moonbat.WTF is reasonable about making people work up to 20 hours a day, six days a week, not paying them regularly, forcing them to live in over-crowded shacks with no plumbing, behind barbed wire, and forcing them to work as prostitutes?Only in Clemworld, would that be considered reasonable I guess.No, no, they were worked 30 hours a day, sometimes underwater for 3-4 hours at a time, and when they got out, they were beaten with tire irons! Every single one including 2-year-old kids! Really, no kidding!Yeah, sure, take the infrequent if not rare exceptions of abuse, exaggerate it beyond belief and bleat about it at the top of your moonbat lungs.Lying partisan hack.

Glory Hole gave the movie two thumbs up. In an eponymous thread about the movie, he defended it quite insightfully against its critics by pointing out that Clinon was a serial rapist.Two thumbs up his ***. If an Indian software writer comes to work in the US on contract for 4-5 times his home wages, would you call that "indentured servitude?"That depends. Is he kept locked behind barbed wire, and forced into prostitution?You want to compare Indian software writers to sweatshop workers in Saipan?Seriously? ROFLMFAO Edited by MistyBlue, 23 April 2011 - 04:49 PM.

If an Indian software writer comes to work in the US on contract for 4-5 times his home wages, would you call that "indentured servitude?"That depends. Is he kept locked behind barbed wire, and forced into prostitution?Oh my, all the workers there are forced into prostitution?Make wildly exaggerated claims much?Yes, they live segregated to keep them from running away to live with the general population. They agreed to live separately.You want to compare Indian software writers to sweatshop workers in Saipan?Seriously? ROFLMFAOWith all the empty compassion of a Leftist moonbat. Ever been abroad to see average working conditions? I have for years. It sucks, and these people have the chance to earn 4-5 times what they do at home.A shrieking, lying, smearing, politically motivated moonbat like you would end their chance and send them back to live in dire poverty at home.Liberal "compassion" on display. Lie through your teeth to get votes, and screw the poor!

I'd be interested to know which "anti-poverty" measures you support, as would everyone else. Edited by Avenger_of_Justice, 24 April 2011 - 09:10 PM.

I'd be interested to know which "anti-poverty" measures you support, as would everyone else.Getting a job.Still haven't sought professional psychological help?It shows.

Getting a job.So in other words, "no meaningful" solutions to poverty.Thanks for demonstrating how useful a time drain can be.

(CNN) Now that President Barack Obama has released his long-form birth certificate, real estate mogul and possible presidential candidate Donald Trump is ready for other issuesone of them apparently whether he will pay the investigators he sent to Hawaii to look into the place of Obama's birth.In an interview airing Wednesday on CNN's "John King, USA," Trump asserted, "I don't make up anything," when asked about his earlier claims that Obama's birth certificate could be missing. Still, he is undecided about paying for the sleuths he sent to Hawaii to investigate the issue."Would I pay them? I don't know," he said. "I can say this, let me just tell you, I don't make up anythingI have done a great service to the American people."When pressed on his role in stirring up birther controversy by CNN's Chief National Correspondent John King, Trump downplayed his actions by saying he didn't understand why President Obama didn't release his birth certificate earlier. "I heard everyone wanted to see it and I was the only one that got him to do it," he said."Every time I sit down with the press all they want to talk about is the birth certificate and I got him to do something that nobody else could get him to do and I take great credit for that."Trump responded to the president's motivation for releasing his long form birth certificate as a way to end "silliness" by saying, "We have a president that's incompetentI am a very serious person. I am a person that has made great wealth."Trump, currently in the first-in-the-nation primary state of New Hampshire for several appearances, says he hasn't seen the long-form birth certificate but now hopes "a lot of experts will analyze it."He indicated that he's ready to move on to other issues, since the place of the president's birth is no longer in question, and affirmed that he's ready to focus on other subjects "like China ripping us off.""I'm really happy that we can finally get on to that subject because that's my strength," he said. "Jobs, the economy, getting OPEC to behave. We have all the powerthey don't respect our leadership," he continued.If there were any doubt on which ticket Trump would run, if he decides to run for president, given his history of cozying up to the reform party in 1999, and later saying the Republicans are too crazy, and the Democrats are too liberal, Trump settled the question."I'm looking to run as a Republican.""I'm doing great in the polls, you know why?" he continued. "Because people in New Hampshire as well as people in the country don't want to be ripped off by a nation that does business with us.""Our leader is incompetent, and people want to see a change and that's why I'm doing it."Trump has convinced at least one key GOP operative that he's not taking a potential bid for the presidency lightly. In an interview with King, Jack Kimball, chairman of the New Hampshire state Republican Party, said he believes Trump's visit to the state is an indication that he's serious about running."Just his appearance here today I think is ominous," he said. "I think he wouldn't have bothered to come here if he wasn't taking the next most serious step toward that decision."VIDEOSo Trump admits that he hasn't yet decided if he's going to stiff the investigators he sent to Hawaii.Nice guy.

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Grist destroys RW liars on global warming. http://www.grist.org...-global-warmingMost people are understandably confused about the relationship between global warming and natural variability in the weather. After the huge snowfalls in the northeastern United States over the past few months, for instance, many people can't help but wonder: With a winter of such magnitude, how can scientists say the planet is warming? Unlike a natural variation like El Nio, Li explains, the changes in the intensity and western migration of the NASH result from global warming -- primarily from steadily rising sea-surface temperatures in the Atlantic Ocean. As she notes, "Our analysis strongly suggests that the changes in the NASH are mainly due to anthropogenic warming." In other words, human-induced climate change has caused a prevailing weather pattern to move closer to North America; when that high-pressure area wobbles slightly to the north or south, the consequences are felt more acutely in the Southeast's regional rainfall compared to six decades ago.More on phony "petitions" signed by unemployed bloggers and their ilk (non-scientists, basically)http://www.grist.org...acks-on-science Edited by Avenger_of_Justice, 27 April 2011 - 09:35 PM.