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Misty » 06 Feb 2018 8:08 pm » wrote:

Trump’s ‘marching orders’ to the Pentagon: Plan a grand military parade.

President Trump’s vision of soldiers marching and tanks rolling down the boulevards of Washington is moving closer to reality in the Pentagon and White House, where officials say they have begun to plan a grand military parade later this year showcasing the might of America’s armed forces.

Trump has long mused publicly and privately about wanting such a parade, but a Jan. 18 meeting between Trump and top generals in the Pentagon’s tank — a room reserved for top-secret discussions — marked a tipping point, according to two officials briefed on the planning.

Surrounded by the military’s highest-ranking officials, including Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr., Trump’s seemingly abstract desire for a parade was suddenly heard as a presidential directive, the officials said.

“The marching orders were: I want a parade like the one in France,” said a military official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the planning discussions are supposed to remain confidential.

“This is being worked at the highest levels of the military.”

Shows of military strength are not typical in the United States — and they don’t come cheap.

The cost of shipping Abrams tanks and high-tech hardware to Washington could run in the millions, and military officials said it was unclear how they would pay for it.

A White House official familiar with the planning described the discussions as “brainstorming” and said nothing was settled.

“Right now, there’s really no meat on the bones,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe internal discussions.

After The Washington Post first published this story, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders issued a statement confirming that plans are underway.

“President Trump is incredibly supportive of America’s great service members who risk their lives every day to keep our country safe,” Sanders said.

“He has asked the Department of Defense to explore a celebration at which all Americans can show their appreciation.”

This is not about allowing Americans to show their appreciation to the military.
This is about him acting like a dictator.

Misty » 06 Feb 2018 8:08 pm » wrote:
This is not about allowing Americans to show their appreciation to the military.
This is about him acting like a dictator.

Generalissimo Trump must keep up with the dictators he loves so much!

Misty » 06 Feb 2018 8:08 pm » wrote:

Trump’s ‘marching orders’ to the Pentagon: Plan a grand military parade.

This is not about allowing Americans to show their appreciation to the military.
This is about him acting like a dictator.

Misty » 05 Feb 2018 11:43 am » wrote:Not interested in reading your anti-American pro-Trump propaganda.

45 is operating straight from the dictator/authoritarian handbook.
First, appoint your family members to be part of the administration.
Second, attack the free press.
And third, attack government institutions.

And you are complicit in that.

Angelo Codevilla has written about intelligence matters for decades; both reasonable and highly knowledgeable.

Jail the Guilty, Repeal FISA
By Angelo Codevilla| February 6, 2018
he House Intelligence Committee’s summary memo of highly classified FBI and Justice Department documents confirms what has been public knowledge for over a year: Some of America’s highest officials used U.S. intelligence’s most intrusive espionage tools to attempt to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, and then to cripple Donald Trump politically. Being of one mind with the rest of the Obama Administration and Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, these officials acted symbiotically and seamlessly with them, regardless of any cooperation that may have existed.

The party-in-power’s use of government espionage to thwart the opposition violates the Fourth Amendment and sets a ruinous precedent. Having done so under color of law—specifically, the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA)—makes it a lot worse.

Unfortunately, the summary memo—to say nothing of the Democrats’ and their kept media’s reaction to it—focuses largely on whether the FBI and Justice Department dotted the i’s and crossed the t’s as they obtained a warrant from the FISA court to do the spying. This misrepresents high crimes as merely technical violations. Worse, it risks leaving in place a law under which those in charge of the government may violate the basic tenets of American political life with reasonable hope of impunity.....

The Memo Reveals a Bigger Problem

In what is arguably the key passage of the Nunes memo, the committee states:

Neither the initial application [for surveillance of the Trump campaign] in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier [which was a basis for the application] were then known to senior DOJ and FBI officials.

If that’s true, then the officials who signed the applications—including FBI Director James Comey, Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, acting Attorney General Sally Yates, then-acting Attorney General Dana Boente, and then-acting Attorney General Rod Rosenstein—are guilty of misrepresenting material facts to a federal court. All of them belong in the slammer—for at least a little while.
https://amgreatness.com/2018/02/06/jail ... peal-fisa/

Sgt Bilko » 06 Feb 2018 10:11 pm » wrote: Your progressivism is showing through loud and clear. You and Misty love the absolute lies about Trump and pass them along as truth. Your here filled assertion is a lie and you know it.

Here is your rulebook.

Saul Alinsky Rules of Power Tactics

The first rule is:
Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.

The second rule is:
Never go outside the experience of your people. When an action is outside the experience of the people, the result is confusion, fear, and retreat.

The third rule is:
Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.

The fourth rule is:
Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.

The fourth rule carries within it the fifth rule:
Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.

The sixth rule is:
A good tactic is one that your people enjoy. If your people are not having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic.

The seventh rule:
A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time, after which it becomes a ritualistic commitment, like going to church on Sunday mornings.

The eighth rule:
Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.

The ninth rule:
The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.

The tenth rule:
The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.

The eleventh rule is:
If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative.

The twelfth rule:
The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. You cannot risk being trapped by the enemy in his sudden agreement with your demand and saying “You’re right — we don’t know what to do about this issue. Now you tell us.”

The thirteenth rule:
Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

You're right! I live to mock the insane, the incompetent, the idiocy of fakes and liars! I wear your scorn like a badge of honor!Thank You!

nuckin futz » 06 Feb 2018 10:29 pm » wrote:
You're right! I live to mock the insane, the incompetent, the idiocy of fakes and liars! I wear your scorn like a badge of honor!Thank You!

Ricky Tavy » 06 Feb 2018 10:14 pm » wrote:

Sgt Bilko » 06 Feb 2018 10:11 pm » wrote:

nuckin futz » 06 Feb 2018 9:05 pm » wrote:
Generalissimo Trump must keep up with the dictators he loves so much!

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Your progressivism is showing through loud and clear. You and Misty love the absolute lies about Trump and pass them along as truth. Your here filled assertion is a lie and you know it.

Here is your rulebook.

Saul Alinsky Rules of Power Tactics

The first rule is:
Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.

The second rule is:
Never go outside the experience of your people. When an action is outside the experience of the people, the result is confusion, fear, and retreat.

The third rule is:
Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.

The fourth rule is:
Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.

The fourth rule carries within it the fifth rule:
Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.

The sixth rule is:
A good tactic is one that your people enjoy. If your people are not having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic.

The seventh rule:
A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time, after which it becomes a ritualistic commitment, like going to church on Sunday mornings.

The eighth rule:
Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.

The ninth rule:
The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.

The tenth rule:
The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.

The eleventh rule is:
If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative.

The twelfth rule:
The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. You cannot risk being trapped by the enemy in his sudden agreement with your demand and saying “You’re right — we don’t know what to do about this issue. Now you tell us.”

The thirteenth rule:
Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

The hypocrisy of that long tired snivel is exceeded only by its crybaby wimpiness. A simple "Wah wah wah" would have been less demeaning.

Ricky Tavy » 07 Feb 2018 10:15 am » wrote:
While I am flattered that you sourced me for your witless, no-pride I-know you are, your whimper still was nothing more than a sibilant fart. OTOH, I see by your signature that you are a big fan of the kind of military parades favored by tin-pot dictators everywhere. Must bring you to a full two inches of tumescence to know that the Benito trump you fluff is making our soldiers do one for him.

Misty » 05 Feb 2018 11:43 am » wrote:Not interested in reading your anti-American pro-Trump propaganda.

45 is operating straight from the dictator/authoritarian handbook.
First, appoint your family members to be part of the administration.
Second, attack the free press.
And third, attack government institutions.

And you are complicit in that.

Ricky Tavy » 07 Feb 2018 10:15 am » wrote:

Sgt Bilko » 07 Feb 2018 10:03 am » wrote: Poor Ricky is having more brain flatulence spewing from his mouth caused by his hissy fit!! What a waste of skin.

While I am flattered that you sourced me for your witless, no-pride I-know you are, your whimper still was nothing more than a sibilant fart. OTOH, I see by your signature that you are a big fan of the kind of military parades favored by tin-pot dictators everywhere. Must bring you to a full two inches of tumescence to know that the Benito trump you fluff is making our soldiers do one for him.

Misty » 05 Feb 2018 4:19 pm » wrote:Trump says Democrats who didn't applaud during his State of the Union speech are "treasonous."

trea·son
ˈtrēzən/Submit
noun
the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp ... 9YfLyxnFwM

Ricky Tavy » 07 Feb 2018 11:33 am » wrote:
roadkill built the world's tiniest and silliest straw man in hopes a ****** like him had finally found something he could beat up. Alas.

Senate Reaches Bipartisan Spending Deal...Without DACA
Cortney O'Brien Cortney O'Brien
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyob ... l-n2445828

roadkill » 07 Feb 2018 7:43 am » wrote:Let's review how the leftist media lectured us on the tradition of accepting election results...

They thought they had Trump nailed. When they realized they didn't they followed up by pumping the fake Russian narrative so they could avoid accepting the election results.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMe8uBagPrI

Sgt Bilko » 07 Feb 2018 10:33 am » wrote:It is obvious that you are a far leftwing progressive moonbat moron of the first order. You morons live in your fantasy world with your emotion driven beliefs ignoing plain facts. Your refusal to consider facts is caused by the cognitive dissonance pain of considering facts as opposed your beliefs causes. Therefore you blindly adhere to your fantasy world emotion driven beliefs.

Misty » 07 Feb 2018 3:10 pm » wrote: Fake Russian narrative?

Misty » 07 Feb 2018 3:06 pm » wrote:As staff secretary, Rob Porter handled every document signed by the president, but was unable to get a full security clearance.
Jarod Kushner who sits in on the highly classified Presidential Daily Briefing has also been unable to get a security clearance.
45 revealed classified info to two Russians in the Oval Office and signed off on the release of classified info to the public in an effort to somehow vindicate himself in the Mueller investigation.

I never want to hear about Hillary Clinton's careless handling of classified info again.