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11 Mar 2011 1:42 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
10 Feb 2018 12:31 am
You got it.Ricky Tavy » 10 Feb 2018 12:14 am » wrote:I probably will not see Clem's response to this before this session ends. If there is one, and you can remember it, I would appreciate it if you can bring it and your response to his lickspittle suck-uppery anyway to my attention.Misty » 09 Feb 2018 11:51 pm » wrote:Do you know what your dear leader said about that "serial rapist?"Termin8tor » 09 Feb 2018 10:31 am » wrote:The Democrat Talking Point Liar who told years of lies in defense of a serial rapist is now attacking a man of high integrity for one apparent mistake.
He said that Bill Clinton was a 'victim.'
And he dismissed and mocked his accusers, calling them 'a terrible group of people' who were 'losers' and said they were 'truly an unattractive cast of characters.'
So the next time you accuse me of defending that 'serial rapist' you might want to think about that.
I never said anything like that about any of those women, and I sure as hell never called Bubba a victim.
He has been accusing me of 'defending a serial rapist' for ten **** years because I said that I didn't think it was right for him to refer to Bill Clinton (or anyone) as a rapist, since he was never convicted of or even charged with that crime.
10 Feb 2018 3:03 am
The BLOTUS you worship and adore defended Rob Porter, the wife beater yesterday, and not one word about the victims.Termin8tor » 09 Feb 2018 10:31 am » wrote:The Democrat Talking Point Liar who told years of lies in defense of a serial rapist is now attacking a man of high integrity for one apparent mistake.
He defended Roy Moore, a child molester who preyed on young girls, and not one word about the victims.
He defended Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly who sexually harassed countless women, and not one word about the victims.
And he also defended convicted rapist Mike Tyson, but in that case, he did say something about the victim.
He blamed her and said that because he saw her smiling the next day, that must mean that she wasn't raped.
So when it comes to the abuse of women, he always takes the side of the abuser and not the victims.
That's because he is an abuser of women himself who called all of the women who accused him of touching them inappropriately liars.
10 Feb 2018 3:21 am
That will never happen.Ricky Tavy » 10 Feb 2018 3:08 am » wrote:You say that as if it were a reason a tiny-dick Clem should abandon the trump who offered him a scapegoat in every pot.Misty » 10 Feb 2018 3:03 am » wrote:The BLOTUS you worship and adore defended Rob Porter, the wife beater yesterday, and not one word about the victims.Termin8tor » 09 Feb 2018 10:31 am » wrote:The Democrat Talking Point Liar who told years of lies in defense of a serial rapist is now attacking a man of high integrity for one apparent mistake.
He defended Roy Moore, a child molester who preyed on young girls, and not one word about the victims.
He defended Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly who sexually harassed countless women, and not one word about the victims.
And he also defended convicted rapist Mike Tyson, but in that case, he did say something about the victim.
He blamed her and said that because he saw her smiling the next day, that must mean that she wasn't raped.
So when it comes to the abuse of women, he always takes the side of the abuser and not the victims.
That's because he is an abuser of women himself who called all of the women who accused him of touching them inappropriately liars.
But I can't wait to see his ridiculous answer in defense of his dear leader.
Maybe he'll drag out the vulgar seduction defense again.
10 Feb 2018 5:15 am
Then faint...there has been many times Trump helped people in need. But you ignored it.Misty » 09 Feb 2018 8:38 pm » wrote: If he ever did anything for anyone but himself, I would faint.
10 Feb 2018 5:42 am
I get up early every morning.Ricky Tavy » 10 Feb 2018 5:20 am » wrote:
Ick. No-pride roadkill is already awake on a Saturday morning, squealing no-pride trump lies like doing so will make him the next Amorosa.
I mean, .... Ick.
Yer still drunk from the night before.
10 Feb 2018 5:52 am
You can tell a lot about a person by who their allies are.Misty » 10 Feb 2018 3:21 am » wrote:That will never happen.Ricky Tavy » 10 Feb 2018 3:08 am » wrote:You say that as if it were a reason a tiny-dick Clem should abandon the trump who offered him a scapegoat in every pot.
But I can't wait to see his ridiculous answer in defense of his dear leader.
Do you have one single supporter of integrity? Nope.
The two guys were fired.
In total contrast, you and your party told years of lies on behalf of a serial rapist /serial felon and kept him in office.
10 Feb 2018 5:57 am
Given that the corrupt liberal MSM blacked out most of Clinton's crimes and barely reported the rape accusations, I have no idea what Trump knew at the time.Misty » 09 Feb 2018 11:51 pm » wrote:Do you know what your dear leader said about that "serial rapist?"Termin8tor » 09 Feb 2018 10:31 am » wrote:The Democrat Talking Point Liar who told years of lies in defense of a serial rapist is now attacking a man of high integrity for one apparent mistake.
Without knowing the full story.
Psychopath.
He said that Bill Clinton was a 'victim.'
Nor do I accept your word on ANYTHING.
But I do know that you told years of lies in defense of a serial rapist / serial felon.
You're just trying to deflect.
Some of them have been proven to have lied, and large amounts of money were offered to anyone who'd accuse Trump of such things.And he dismissed and mocked his accusers, calling them 'a terrible group of people' who were 'losers' and said they were 'truly an unattractive cast of characters.'
So unless you have proof of true abuse, I'll assume you're full of crap.
You and your corrupt party can't win in an honest debate of issues, so you lie and smear.
10 Feb 2018 5:58 am
Oh ****...Ricky just sent me a PM.Termin8tor » 10 Feb 2018 5:57 am » wrote:
Given that the corrupt liberal MSM blacked out most of Clinton's crimes and barely reported the rape accusations, I have no idea what Trump knew at the time.
Nor do I accept your word on ANYTHING.
But I do know that you told years of lies in defense of a serial rapist / serial felon.
You're just trying to deflect.
Some of them have been proven to have lied, and large amounts of money were offered to anyone who'd accuse Trump of such things.
So unless you have proof of true abuse, I'll assume you're full of crap.
You and your corrupt party can't win in an honest debate of issues, so you lie and smear.
10 Feb 2018 6:02 am
You admit you refuse to read any of the sources in my threads, but now you want me to spend time chasing info for you?Misty » 09 Feb 2018 10:37 pm » wrote:Do you have a link for Comey saying that?Termin8tor » 09 Feb 2018 9:49 pm » wrote:Besides which, you're missing the point. She violated State Dept. protocol by INTENTIONALLY setting up an insecure server.
That according to Comey was likely hacked by foreign powers.
Before Strzok or someone cut that out of Comey's official statement.
She had the intent to violate the law.
You're kidding, right?
Comey didn't "say" it. It was in the memo he was writing, then someone cut it out. Another phrase "gross negligence" was cut out that would have made it crystal clear that Hillary had violated the law. Those words are in the actual law.
Comey and high officials in the FBI very likely obstructed justice.
10 Feb 2018 6:03 am
Let me guess what it says.
Blah, blah, blah, deplorable, blah,, blah.
10 Feb 2018 6:06 am
Why are you quoting the corrupt Washington Post that claimed for over a year that Trump collaborated with Russia? They still don't have one single shred of evidence to support that smear. That's, to use your words, a "wacky conspiracy theory."Misty » 09 Feb 2018 10:37 pm » wrote:I could have been born with two heads and six arms, but I wasn't.FBI: No evidence Clinton’s email was hacked by foreign powers, but it could have been.The FBI investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server
found no evidence that her communications were hacked
while she was secretary of state, but it made clear that “hostile actors” here and abroad could have done so.
They also lied for six months that Trump was under criminal investigation, as did the rest of the MSM.
Gateway is far more credible.
Don't ever cite the Post, CNN or any of the rest of the corrupt liberal MSM. Abide by the standards you set.
10 Feb 2018 6:07 am
Nope...he just needed a ride from the ghetto gutter to his cardboard box.Termin8tor » 10 Feb 2018 6:03 am » wrote:
Let me guess what it says.
Blah, blah, blah, deplorable, blah,, blah.
He spends the night outside the liquor store cause they have WiFi.
10 Feb 2018 6:13 am
Why don't you respond to this?Misty » 09 Feb 2018 3:53 pm » wrote:roadkill » 09 Feb 2018 11:51 am » wrote:"The Steele Dossier on Trump and Russia Is Looking More and More Real"
But you guys said it was real from the start...why are they now saying "Looking more and more real"? LOL
I don't know who 'you guys' are but I never said it was real from the start.
It's an abuse of the FISA court and likely federal law to present unverified evidence as justification for a FISA warrant.
How utterly typical. You ignore verified evidence, even proof, of felonies by Democrats.I had a thread on it when it first came out that 45 and Obama were briefed on it, and I repeatedly said that the claims were unverified.
And that is how it is still referred to in the media, even though some of the claims have since been verified.
And BTW, unverified does not mean untrue.
But you shriek and wail about supposed scandals by conservatives on the weakest of evidence and what will likely turn out to be almost entirely lies.
John Solomon of Circa News said last night that in time it will be proved that all the evidence on which the FISA warrant was granted will lead back to the HRC campaign.
Including the story by the Australian ambassador.
Who's going to prison?
10 Feb 2018 12:23 pm
A couple? There were over 2,000 classified documents found on her server.Misty » 09 Feb 2018 9:43 pm » wrote:Can you imagine that they wanted to 'lock her up' because they said that she sent a couple of classified emails on her private server
A former DOJ Inspector General warned for years about this and was threatened with firing by the Clinton campaign.
He said that if he'd done what HRC did, he'd be in Leavenworth Prison.
Former DOJ Inspector General Was Targeted and Pushed Out by Deep State After Exposing Hillary Email Crimes(VIDEO)
February 10, 2018 by Jim Hoft 119 Comments
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Charles McCollough III is the former Intelligence Community Inspector.
He was threatened in 2016 after he exposed Hillary Clinton for having classified documents on her unsecured home-brew server.
“I was told that we would be the first two to be fired with her administration… That, that was definitely going to happen.”
McCollough’s sin was that he was honest – and he was serving in the Obama deep state, a band of crooks and criminals.
Charles McCollough believes Hillary Clinton’s emails endangered national security.
But the deep state didn’t care and pushed him out for being honest and doing his job.
https://youtu.be/tBxycUsctlk
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02 ... mes-video/
10 Feb 2018 12:35 pm
In fact, that was quite common in the Clinton administration, letting classified material be handled by criminals, not relatives or trusted, known confidants.Misty » 09 Feb 2018 4:19 pm » wrote:One little mistake?
How about the LITTLE mistake of allowing a man without a security clearance to handle the most highly classified material?
Bill Clinton and Obama both corrupted agencies of government, putting dishonest individuals into key positions of power in the FBI, Justice and intelligence agencies.
Now it's blowing up in their faces.
Former prosecutor Andrew McCarthy wrote some time back that he absolutely did not believe the claims made by people like Sean Hannity of gross abuses of power and felonies. As a former prosecutor he had confidence in the system.
He admitted very recently that his confidence in the system was naive; that he was wrong. Hannity and those individuals making the strongest claims were correct.
Grassley-Graham Memo Affirms Nunes Memo — Media Yawns
We need a full-blown investigation of how the FISA court came to grant warrants to spy on Carter Page.
By Andrew C. McCarthy — February 10, 2018
In a word, the Grassley-Graham memo is shocking. Yet, the press barely notices.
Rest assured: If a Republican administration had used unverifiable hearsay from a patently suspect agent of the Republican presidential candidate to gull the FISA court into granting a warrant to spy on an associate of the Democratic nominee’s campaign, it would be covered as the greatest political scandal in a half-century.
Instead, it was the other way around. The Grassley-Graham memo corroborates the claims in the Nunes memo: The Obama Justice Department and FBI used anonymously sourced, Clinton-campaign generated innuendo to convince the FISA court to issue surveillance warrants against Carter Page, and in doing so, they concealed the Clinton campaign’s role. Though the Trump campaign had cut ties with Page shortly before the first warrant was issued in October 2016, the warrant application was based on wild allegations of a corrupt conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin.
Moreover, the warrant meant the FBI could seize not only Page’s forward-going communications but any past emails and texts he may have stored — i.e., his Trump campaign communications.
With its verification by the Grassley-Graham memo, the Nunes memo now has about a thousand times more corroboration than the Steele dossier, the basis of the heinous allegations used by the Justice Department and FBI to get the FISA warrants.
What the Grassley-Graham memo tells us is that the Nunes memo, for all the hysteria about it, was tame. The Grassley-Graham memo tells us that we need not only a full-blown investigation of what possessed the Obama administration to submit such shoddy applications to the FISA court, but of how a judge — or perhaps as many as four judges — rationalized signing the warrants.
We need full disclosure — the warrants, the applications, the court proceedings. No more games....
Grassley and Graham quote directly from the warrant applications: “Based on [Steele’s] previous reporting history with the FBI whereby [Steele] provided reliable information to the FBI, the FBI believes [Steele’s] reporting to be credible.” (Emphasis added.)
I cannot stress enough how irregular this is. It is why there is abundant reason to demand that the judge explain his or her rationale for granting the warrant.
As I outlined at greater length last week (here, in section C), in applying for a warrant, the government must establish the reliability of the informants who witnessed the alleged facts claimed to support a probable-cause finding. Steele was not one of those witnesses. He is not the source of the facts. He is the purveyor of the sources — anonymous Russians, much of whose alleged information is based on hearsay, sometimes multiple steps removed from direct knowledge. Steele has not been in Russia since his cover as a British spy was blown nearly 20 years ago. He has sources, who have sources, who have sources . . . and so on. None of his information is better than third-hand; most of it is more attenuated than that....
Let that sink in, then think about this contrast: No actual FBI agent, no matter how renowned, would be able to get a judicial warrant based solely on his own reliability as an investigator. Jim Comey, despite having a résumé geometrically more impressive than Steele’s, including Senate confirmations to some of federal law-enforcement’s loftiest positions, would not be given a warrant based on representations to the court that the FBI, the Justice Department, the president, and the Senate all attested to his impeccable reliability.
The only reliability that counts is the reliability of the factual informants, not of the investigator who purports to channel the informants. ...
This is not esoterica. In the investigations biz, this is so basic that to call it “Warrants 101” doesn’t do it justice. If you don’t have witnesses with verifiable, first-hand knowledge, you don’t have anything. Without them, to borrow Director Comey’s notorious dictum, no reasonable prosecutor would bring a warrant application to a federal judge, and no reasonable judge would issue a warrant....
The Clinton campaign’s sponsorship was not publicly disclosed until October 2017. Before then, it is virtually certain that, to the extent the FISA court and Congress were told of the “political origins” of the dossier, these were benignly presented as bipartisan concerns about Donald Trump. That is, the Steele dossier phase of Fusion’s anti-Trump project was conflated with the earlier phase, when — as Simpson has testified — Fusion did documentary research on Trump during the Republican primaries for a conservative media outlet. It was not disclosed that, by the time Steele was hired to do the dossier, the project was backed exclusively by the Democratic party and the Clinton campaign.
Manifestly, that was a material fact. If a prosecutor withheld an arguably exculpatory fact of this degree of significance, it could get a conviction reversed. As some have observed, a public company would likely face a stock fraud prosecution for concealing a fact so patently material from its required SEC reports.
The Clinton-campaign tie should have been disclosed from the beginning....
I spent many months assuring people that nothing like this could ever happen — that the FBI and Justice Department would not countenance the provision to the FISA court of uncorroborated allegations of heinous misconduct. When Trump enthusiasts accused them of rigging the process, I countered that they probably had not even used the Steele dossier. If the Justice Department had used it in writing a FISA warrant application, I insisted that the FBI would independently verify any important facts presented to the court, make any disclosures that ought in fairness be made so the judge could evaluate the credibility of the sources, and compellingly demonstrate probable cause before alleging that an American was a foreign agent.
I was wrong.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... le-dossier
10 Feb 2018 8:14 pm
You mean like the time he bought some kid a bicycle and bragged about it endlessly on Twiiter?roadkill » 10 Feb 2018 5:15 am » wrote:Then faint...there has been many times Trump helped people in need. But you ignored it.Misty » 09 Feb 2018 8:38 pm » wrote:If he ever did anything for anyone but himself, I would faint.
10 Feb 2018 8:18 pm
No...other times where he helped people in quality substantive ways.Misty » 10 Feb 2018 8:14 pm » wrote: You mean like the time he bought some kid a bicycle and bragged about it endlessly on Twiiter?
I guess you miss those examples.
10 Feb 2018 8:22 pm
The SCROTUS that you worship is the one who called Bill Clinton a victim and mocked and insulted his accusers, not me.Termin8tor » 10 Feb 2018 5:52 am » wrote:you and your party told years of lies on behalf of a serial rapist /serial felon and kept him in office.
But you ignored that.
He also defended a wife beater again today.
But you ignored that too.
10 Feb 2018 8:42 pm
So are you are afraid to Google it, because you know what you will find?Termin8tor » 10 Feb 2018 5:57 am » wrote:Given that the corrupt liberal MSM blacked out most of Clinton's crimes and barely reported the rape accusations, I have no idea what Trump knew at the time.Misty » 09 Feb 2018 11:51 pm » wrote:Do you know what your dear leader said about that "serial rapist?"
He said that Bill Clinton was a 'victim.'
Nor do I accept your word on ANYTHING.
Here, let me help you out with that.
You keep spitting that **** out like some kind of a demented parrot suffering from Tourette's Syndrome.Termin8tor » 10 Feb 2018 5:57 am » wrote:But I do know that you told years of lies in defense of a serial rapist / serial felon.
BLOTUS portrayed convicted rapist Mike Tyson's victim as a liar who had it coming.
You mean like you are doing by constantly changing the subject to Obama or the Clintons?Termin8tor » 10 Feb 2018 5:57 am » wrote:You're just trying to deflect.
What proof do you have that Clinton is a 'serial rapist?'Termin8tor » 10 Feb 2018 5:57 am » wrote:Some of them have been proven to have lied, and large amounts of money were offered to anyone who'd accuse Trump of such things.Misty » 09 Feb 2018 11:51 pm » wrote:And he dismissed and mocked his accusers, calling them 'a terrible group of people' who were 'losers' and said they were 'truly an unattractive cast of characters.'
So unless you have proof of true abuse, I'll assume you're full of crap.
Were you an eyewitness to these rapes?
Pot meet kettle.Termin8tor » 10 Feb 2018 5:57 am » wrote:You and your corrupt party can't win in an honest debate of issues, so you lie and smear.
You just called 45's accusers paid liars.
10 Feb 2018 8:56 pm
So **** predictable.Termin8tor » 10 Feb 2018 6:02 am » wrote:You admit you refuse to read any of the sources in my threads, but now you want me to spend time chasing info for you?Misty » 09 Feb 2018 10:37 pm » wrote:Do you have a link for Comey saying that?Termin8tor » 09 Feb 2018 9:49 pm » wrote:Besides which, you're missing the point. She violated State Dept. protocol by INTENTIONALLY setting up an insecure server.
That according to Comey was likely hacked by foreign powers.
Before Strzok or someone cut that out of Comey's official statement.
She had the intent to violate the law.
You're kidding, right?
You spit out some **** and when asked to prove it you do a song and a dance about either how you've posted it many, many times in the past, or you don't have time to prove your ****.
You're on this forum 24/7.
WTF else do you have to do?
The FBI report said that her private server was not hacked.
I posted it in this thread last night, but I'm not going to spend my time chasing info for you.
You will refuse to read it anyway.
There you go.
Two can play that game.
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