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Termin8tor » 16 Mar 2019 3:52 pm » wrote:

Misty » 16 Mar 2019 3:46 pm » wrote:I guess the fact that Trump retweeted to his million of Twitter followers, three videos by Jayda Fransen, one of the leaders of Britain First, a neo-fascist hate group does not bother you either.
He associated himself with her.
Why would he do that Precious?

Assuming I believe your claim about Fransen, which I don't, he thought the videos were informative and didn't know the source.

Termin8tor » 16 Mar 2019 3:52 pm » wrote:But facts never get in the way of your lies and smears.

Jayda Kaleigh Fransen is the former deputy leader of Britain First, a far-right British fascist political organization in the United Kingdom, and served as its acting leader for six months after incumbent leader Paul Golding was imprisoned in December 2016.

In addition to online anti-Islamic activism, she has often marched while holding a white cross, in "Christian patrols" through predominantly Muslim districts of British towns.

In March 2018, Fransen was sentenced to 36 weeks imprisonment after being convicted of three counts of religiously aggravated harassment.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayda_Fransen

Misty » 16 Mar 2019 9:32 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 16 Mar 2019 3:52 pm » wrote:But facts never get in the way of your lies and smears.

You know nothing about facts.

Proving yourself to be a psychopathic liar, especially after your hilarious denial that there's anti-semiticism in your corrupt party, to which they couldn't even respond with an explicit condemnation.

Which shows how widespread it is.

My sources are the best conservative sources in the country.

Are you claiming they get their facts wrong?

Now do your deceitful little dance about Gateway and pretend the rest don't exist.

some wikipedia thing

Termin8tor » 17 Mar 2019 8:49 am » wrote:

Misty » 16 Mar 2019 9:32 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 16 Mar 2019 3:52 pm » wrote:But facts never get in the way of your lies and smears.

You know nothing about facts.

Proving yourself to be a psychopathic liar, especially after your hilarious denial that there's anti-semiticism in your corrupt party, to which they couldn't even respond with an explicit condemnation.

Which shows how widespread it is.

My sources are the best conservative sources in the country.

Are you claiming they get their facts wrong?

Now do your deceitful little dance about Gateway and pretend the rest don't exist.

That could be correct, but given that your side has ridiculously accused Trump of fascism, I reserve judgment.

Termin8tor » 16 Mar 2019 3:52 pm » wrote:

Misty » 16 Mar 2019 3:46 pm » wrote:I guess the fact that Trump retweeted to his million of Twitter followers, three videos by Jayda Fransen, one of the leaders of Britain First, a neo-fascist hate group does not bother you either.
He associated himself with her.
Why would he do that Precious?

Assuming I believe your claim about Fransen, which I don't, he thought the videos were informative and didn't know the source.

The deputy leader of far-right party Britain First, who was retweeted by Donald Trump, has been suspended from Twitter.
Jayda Fransen was the subject of headlines around the world in November when the US President shared a number of her Islamophobic posts.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 16831.html

The first video claimed to show “Muslim migrants beating up a Dutch boy on crutches”.

The attacker in the video from the Netherlands was neither a Muslim nor a migrant, according to local media, and was arrested over the incident.

A second re-post was captioned: “Muslim destroys statue of Virgin Mary”, while a third read “Islamist mob pushes teenage boy off roof and beats him to death”.

Local reports said the footage showed the 2013 murder of a teenager who was himself likely to be a Muslim during riots over the coup against Egypt’s President Mohamed Morsi.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 16831.html

Termin8tor » 17 Mar 2019 8:49 am » wrote:

Misty » 16 Mar 2019 9:32 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 16 Mar 2019 3:52 pm » wrote:But facts never get in the way of your lies and smears.

You know nothing about facts.

(Link to Wikipedia page of Jayda Fransen.)

That could be correct, but given that your side has ridiculously accused Trump of fascism, I reserve judgment.

Termin8tor » 17 Mar 2019 12:25 pm » wrote:

Misty » 17 Mar 2019 11:54 am » wrote:You reserve judgment of the truth?
Britain First leader and deputy leader jailed for hate crimes

Proving yet again what an amazing ignoramus you are.
And as usual you're attacking those who for the most part have the issue right, while expressing zero condemnation of the actual criminals.

Termin8tor » 17 Mar 2019 3:13 pm » wrote:

Misty » 17 Mar 2019 12:30 pm » wrote:If they have the issue right, then why do they have to post FAKE videos to advance their hateful agenda?

And why does the POTUS retweet their FAKE videos?5

I have no idea if they knew they were fake, but as usual you're ignoring what is far and away the biggest issue.

So typically you censored my post to hide the truth.

Why are you censoring a post about the dangerously common incidences of rape and molestation of underaged girls by Muslim immigrants?

You know what that trial was about?

A massive case of forced sexual slavery, pedophilia, gang rape of young non-Muslim girls, 100's of them, allowed by the part of Muslim philosophy that allows such things.

Yet anyone who commented on this hugely important information was indicted and the police stunningly refused to act until outraged citizens managed to publicize it, as the press ignored it.

So this huge scandal is also about the stunning intimidation of politicians and the police not to prosecute crimes like this and the press not to report it.

As a Rotherham grooming gang survivor, I want people to know about the religious extremism which inspired my abusers

Grooming gangs are not like paedophile rings; instead, they operate almost exactly like terrorist networks, with all the same strategies
Ella Hill
I’m a Rotherham grooming gang survivor. I call myself a survivor because I’m still alive. I’m part of the UK’s largest ever child sexual abuse investigation.

As a teenager, I was taken to various houses and flats above takeaways in the north of England, to be beaten, tortured and raped over 100 times. I was called a “white slag” and “white c***” as they beat me.

They made it clear that because I was a non-Muslim, and not a virgin, and because I didn’t dress “modestly”, that they believed I deserved to be “punished”. They said I had to “obey” or be beaten.

Fear of being killed, and threats to my parents’ lives, made it impossible for me to escape for about a year. The police didn’t help me.

.....As someone who has experienced life inside a grooming gang, I can tell you with certainty that none of this is likely to make any difference to the behaviours of groomers. Like terrorists, they firmly believe that the crimes they carry out are justified by their religious beliefs.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ro ... 61831.html

Termin8tor » 17 Mar 2019 3:13 pm » wrote:

Misty » 17 Mar 2019 12:30 pm » wrote:If they have the issue right, then why do they have to post FAKE videos to advance their hateful agenda?
And why does the POTUS retweet their FAKE videos?

I have no idea if they knew they were fake....

Termin8tor » 17 Mar 2019 3:13 pm » wrote:......but as usual you're ignoring what is far and away the biggest issue.
So typically you censored my post to hide the truth.

Why are you censoring a post about the dangerously common incidences of rape and molestation of underaged girls by Muslim immigrants?

Termin8tor » 18 Mar 2019 7:33 am » wrote:Smearing a religion? Islamophobia?
I accurately cited the Koran, wackjob. It explicitly allows such things.

There is a specific kind of warfare laid down in the Bible which we can only call genocide."

It is called herem, and it means total annihilation. Consider the Book of 1 Samuel, when God instructs King Saul to attack the Amalekites: "And utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them," God says through the prophet Samuel. "But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey."

When Saul failed to do that, God took away his kingdom.

"In other words," Jenkins says, "Saul has committed a dreadful sin by failing to complete genocide. And that passage echoes through Christian history. It is often used, for example, in American stories of the confrontation with Indians — not just is it legitimate to kill Indians, but you are violating God's law if you do not."

Jenkins notes that the history of Christianity is strewn with herem. During the Crusades in the Middle Ages, the Catholic popes declared the Muslims Amalekites. In the great religious wars in the 16th, 17th and 19th centuries, Protestants and Catholics each believed the other side were the Amalekites and should be utterly destroyed.

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/sto ... =124494788

Termin8tor » 18 Mar 2019 11:39 am » wrote:

Misty » 18 Mar 2019 11:37 am » wrote:Bill Kristol blah, blah, blah.

Little bill ought to worry about his own state of mind.
Welcome to irrelevance, Dim.

Termin8tor » 18 Mar 2019 11:42 am » wrote:

Misty » 18 Mar 2019 11:37 am » wrote:Trump's state of mind, blah, blah.
It's avoiding reality.

Your magazine went freaking bankrupt because you and your Never Trumpers couldn't face the reality that Trump likely will be a truly great president, that the Conservative Establishment was utterly clueless, had failed the country and was all but irrelevant.
Trump has accomplished more conservative policies than your magazine did in its entire history.
For which you stupidly attacked him.

Misty » 18 Mar 2019 12:04 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 18 Mar 2019 11:39 am » wrote:Little bill ought to worry about his own state of mind.

Welcome to irrelevance, Dim.

Pretty sure you don't follow The Terror of Twitter on Twitter because you want to avoid seeing how crazy he really is.

One would think that he might have other important things to do besides watching TV and Tweeting, like running the **** country.

Termin8tor » 18 Mar 2019 11:42 am » wrote:

Misty » 18 Mar 2019 11:37 am » wrote:Trump's state of mind, blah, blah.

It's avoiding reality.

Your magazine went freaking bankrupt because you and your Never Trumpers couldn't face the reality that Trump likely will be a truly great president, that the Conservative Establishment was utterly clueless, had failed the country and was all but irrelevant.

Trump has accomplished more conservative policies than your magazine did in its entire history.

For which you stupidly attacked him.

Termin8tor » 18 Mar 2019 12:17 pm » wrote:

Misty » 18 Mar 2019 11:52 am » wrote:

I accurately cited the Koran, wackjob. It explicitly allows such things.
And advocates violence against non-believers. Until Muslims come to grip with all that and its stunning intolerance of other religions, there will never be peace and Islam will be a threat to Western Civilization.
Like all leftists, you can't tolerate that the truth be seen so you censor it.

The Bible not only 'allows' but commands a lot of violent things.

Made defunct by the New Testament.

And wouldn't I be silly if I claimed you are now engaging in Christian-ophobia, as you did to me about Islam?

But not to bother you with actual reality, but very, very, very little violence is committed by Christian around the world; occasionally in what they believe to be self defense.

As of today, it is the Muslim religion that has millions of dangerously proactively violent followers; a minority, but a sizable minority. And those followers also rape and molest non-believers, even in Britain.

So of course you'll censor this post for your usual **** reasons.

Termin8tor » 18 Mar 2019 12:17 pm » wrote:

Misty » 18 Mar 2019 11:52 am » wrote:

I accurately cited the Koran, wackjob. It explicitly allows such things.
And advocates violence against non-believers. Until Muslims come to grip with all that and its stunning intolerance of other religions, there will never be peace and Islam will be a threat to Western Civilization.
Like all leftists, you can't tolerate that the truth be seen so you censor it.

The Bible not only 'allows' but commands a lot of violent things.

Made defunct by the New Testament.

Termin8tor » 18 Mar 2019 12:19 pm » wrote:

Misty » 18 Mar 2019 12:12 pm » wrote:Trump attacks a dead war hero once again with a lie.

That's a fact, wackjob, and even war heroes are fair targets for their sleazy political activity.

President Trump accused the late Sen. John McCain on Sunday of working with the Democrats during the 2016 presidential election by giving the Christopher Steele dossier to the FBI and media, in the hope that it would be printed and help defeat Mr. Trump.

But according to several reports, McCain didn’t hand over the dossier to the FBI until after the 2016 election in December. It was circulated to the media through one of McCain’s aides, David Kramer, after the election.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... r-fbi-med/

Termin8tor » 18 Mar 2019 12:25 pm » wrote:

Misty » 18 Mar 2019 12:10 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 18 Mar 2019 11:42 am » wrote:Your magazine went freaking bankrupt because you and your Never Trumpers couldn't face the reality that Trump likely will be a truly great president, that the Conservative Establishment was utterly clueless, had failed the country and was all but irrelevant.
Trump has accomplished more conservative policies than your magazine did in its entire history.
For which you stupidly attacked him.

What is on Trump's policy agenda now other than his stupid wall, Precious?
I say nothing.
What do you say?

I say that you lack the integrity to read what he's done and what he plans, as I've documented in my thread.

Termin8tor » 18 Mar 2019 12:25 pm » wrote:You can't debate issues honestly, so you lie and smear.

Misty » 18 Mar 2019 2:35 pm » wrote:

I say that you lack the integrity to read what he's done and what he plans, as I've documented in my thread.
You can't debate issues honestly, so you lie and smear.

Again the same old **** about how you documented something in your thread.
Nobody is buying that bullcrap you liar.

Trump's Transformation to Competence
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=27543

Name on thing that is currently on Trump's policy agenda, besides his obsession with his **** wall.
Since you say you have already documented it, that should be pretty easy.