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Misty » 28 Jun 2019 1:30 pm » wrote: That is a far cry from what Trump is doing now.
He is holding children, many of whom have family members in this country indefinitely.

Many of them are toddlers who

Misty » 29 Jun 2019 3:10 pm » wrote: I have posted my voter registration card here more than once.
Am I a Liberal? Absolutely.
Am I member of the Democratic Party? No.

There is no law that says that I must be registered in a political party that I know of.
Do you know of one?

Later.
Have a good time with that wackjob Clem.

Misty » 29 Jun 2019 3:12 pm » wrote: I will come back later to see your proof that Obama was abusing children.

Cannonpointer » 29 Jun 2019 3:22 pm » wrote:

Misty » 29 Jun 2019 3:12 pm » wrote:I will come back later to see your proof that Obama was abusing children.

The photos you posted of trump putting kids in cages WERE abusive, until you discovered they were from obama's watch.

Before denying he was looking to revive his administration's controversial "zero tolerance" policy, President Trump falsely accused his predecessor, former President Obama, of implementing a policy to separate migrant children from their families and building "cages" for them.

"Just so you understand, President Obama separated the children," Mr. Trump told reporters before a White House meeting with Egyptian President al-Sisi on Tuesday.

"Those cages that were shown, I think they were very inappropriate, they were built by President Obama's administration, not by Trump."

"President Obama separated children, they had child separation, I was the one that changed it," he added.

Some activists and Democrats have shared photos from 2014 of migrant children being held in cage-like structures to denounce Mr. Trump's "zero tolerance" policy despite the fact that the pictures predated his administration.

But the president's claim that he ended a policy of separating migrant children instituted by Mr. Obama is false.

While some migrant families were separated during the Obama and Bush administrations when immigration officials determined parents posed a risk to their children, there was no government policy of systematically separating children from their parents.

Under the discontinued "zero tolerance" policy of increased prosecution for those who crossed the U.S.-Mexico border illegally, the Trump administration forcibly separated more than 2,600 migrant children from their families near the southern border and designated them as unaccompanied minors.

After massive public outcry, including from many Republicans, Mr. Trump was forced to sign an executive order in June 2018 to rescind the policy crafted and implemented by his administration.

Despite Mr. Trump's denials on Tuesday, multiple administration officials have told CBS News both the president and his senior adviser Stephen Miller have advocated for the policy's revival as part of their "tougher" approach to immigration — which led to Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen's resignation and a purge of the agency's leadership.

A senior administration official told CBS News on Tuesday that a modified family separation proposal is being looked at "internally" by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

The so-called "binary choice" policy would give migrant parents two options: allow the government to separate their children from them or waive their children's special protections so they can be held in detention together indefinitely.

The official said the roll out of the policy faces "significant challenges" because of logistics, including the amount of available detention space and empty beds.

The policy would also likely face formidable court challenges.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-blam ... im-review/

Misty » 29 Jun 2019 3:45 pm » wrote: The photos I posted?
I guess I control the internet now.

As I have explained that situation was very temporary, because they had no where else to put those kids who arrived here unaccompanied btw, and were not ripped from their parent's arms.

You can try and make Obama's policies look the same as Trump's if you don't mind looking like as much of a jackass as Clem.

Obama did NOT have a 'zero tolerance' policy.
He did NOT take thousands of kids away from their parents.
And he sure as hell did NOT put as many as 30,000 kids into overcrowded ice cold facilities run by private contractors, who were given no bid contracts, and allow those kids to languish there indefinitely, sleep on cement floors and go dirty and hungry.

Donald Trump Stumped By Terms ‘Busing’ And Western ‘Liberalism’ At News Conference

In comments in Japan on Saturday, President Donald Trump appeared to be confounded by the terms school “busing,” as well as Western-style democratic “liberalism” that was attacked by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Asked at a news conference as the G-20 summit wrapped up about Putin’s attack on the principles that guide the world’s democracies, Trump apparently interpreted the Russian leader’s comments as criticism of “liberals” and he started to rant about California — Los Angeles and San Francisco in particular.

Trump also talked around two questions about the busing of children to help achieve racial integration in the U.S.

He seemed to think the queries concerned what he referred to as the “primary method of getting people to schools.”

He failed to address the issue of busing children to other districts that began in the 1970s to desegregate American classrooms and that sparked major local controversies.

NBC News’ Kristen Welker asked if he believed busing was a “viable way of integrating schools.”

“Well, it has been something that they’ve done for a long period of time,” Trump vaguely responded.

“I mean, you know, there aren’t that many ways you’re going to get people to schools.

So this is something that’s been done ... it is certainly a primary method of getting people to schools.”

Termin8tor » 30 Jun 2019 1:21 pm » wrote:Best president since the great Ronald Reagan.

Termin8tor » 30 Jun 2019 1:52 pm » wrote:

Best president since the great Ronald Reagan.Not that you have the integrity to acknowledge his accomplishments.
It's just lie, smear and propagandize.

Ask Otto Warmbier's family if they agree with you.
I'm sure they thought that when they saw him fawning all over the man who murdered their son and hearing him say that it was 'a great honor' to stand on the soil of North Korea.

Anyone with the slightest integrity would admit that Trump is deceiving Kim, flattering him to defuse a dangerous and horrific situation in NK.
But psychopaths like you only lie and smear no matter how obvious the truth..

The first daughter asserted herself abroad this week in unique and unprecedented fashion as both a member of the US delegation and a member of the President's family.

Never before has a President's child had the proximity, influence and the marketing savvy to create a space in an administration, and that was on display from the G20 to the demilitarized zone as she appeared on equal footing with Cabinet-level officials.

One sign of that: Her efforts to build relationships with world leaders at gatherings such as these.

Over the course of the four-day trip, Ivanka Trump attended multiple bilateral meetings at the G20 in Osaka.

She was on stage for a women's economic empowerment forum with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and Queen Maxima of the Netherlands, delivering remarks on her Women's Global Development and Prosperity initiative.

The French government released a video of her trying to make conversation with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, French President Emmanuel Macron, IMF chairwoman Christine Lagarde and British Prime Minister Theresa May.

She appeared on camera in a video published by the White House giving a readout of a trilateral meeting between the President, Indian President Narendra Modi and Abe, a responsibility traditionally carried out by a national security staffer in a written statement.

In the video, Trump speaks directly to the camera about the "productive morning, to say the least," occasionally averting her eyes.

Trump also traveled with the delegation to Seoul, where she attended the dinner at the Blue House, had a discussion on women in the global economy with South Korean Foreign Minister Kang Kyung-wha and visited the DMZ, where her father shook hands with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un and became the first sitting US president to step into North Korea.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/30/politics ... rth-korea/

Termin8tor » 01 Jul 2019 12:49 pm » wrote:

Misty: Are you really this stupid?
You keep conflating the deaths of individual Mexican men dying while trying to enter the country illegally to look for work with the death of a family fleeing violence in their own country who was trying to enter the country through a legal port of entry in order to apply for asylum which is NOT illegal, and were turned away.
The two things are NOT the same, so stop trying to dishonestly portray them that way.

They are basically the same people, psycho.

Termin8tor » 01 Jul 2019 12:32 pm » wrote:

What exactly qualifies Ivanka Trump to represent the U.S. at the G20?

The most important qualification is that she's not John Kerry.

Border agents feared riots over poor conditions at an El Paso, Texas, border station as far back as May, according to a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) inspector general report shared with The Hill Monday.

Inspectors noted during a May 7 tour of the station, the name of which is redacted in the report, that only four showers were available for 756 immigrants, over half of which were being held in tents outside the facility.

Those being held inside were kept in cells that were maxed at over five times their intended capacity, according to reports.

The report says that the conditions and overcrowding made border agents fear unrest.

Agents reported taking sick migrants to the hospital five times a day, treating 75 immigrants for lice in a day and trying to quarantine outbreaks of flu and the chickenpox.

The report's release on Monday comes after new acting DHS Secretary Kevin McAleenan said that reports of poor conditions for children at a border station in the El Paso sector were "unsubstantiated."

https://thehill.com/latino/451134-agent ... ion-report

Trump Re-Election Consultant Running Fake Joe Biden Website

A Trump re-election content producer has been running a fake Joe Biden website that sits near the top of search results online, in a disinformation campaign similar to the Russian trolls in 2016, The New York Times reports.

The website, JoeBiden.info, looks like a pro-Biden page but actually trolls users by mocking the Democratic frontrunner and highlights his less-than perfect moments, the Times reports.

The website is run by Patrick Mauldin, a political consultant and digital content producer for the Trump 2020 re-election campaign.

Termin8tor » 01 Jul 2019 1:19 pm » wrote:

THE GAPING ASSHOLE: They are basically the same people.

MISTY: That's right Precious, because all brown people are basically the same, you **** racist.

Gosh, the Race Card. That's never been played before.

The most important qualification is that she's not John Kerry.

She's a **** embarrassment, who is only qualified to be a grifter.

Termin8tor » 01 Jul 2019 1:43 pm » wrote:

Misty » 01 Jul 2019 1:34 pm » wrote:

The Gaping Asshole: Oh gosh, the Race Card.That's never been played before.

You're the one who said that Mexican men sneaking into the country illegally to find work and Central American families fleeing violence in their own countries and coming here to legally seek asylum are 'basically the same' you racist piece of ****.

Who says they're all brown, you racist wackjob?

Termin8tor » 01 Jul 2019 1:46 pm » wrote:Best president since the great Ronald Reagan, psycho.
And given what I've seen of his kids, I'm sure they're highly talented and reliable.

Termin8tor » 01 Jul 2019 1:46 pm » wrote:As opposed to the many felons who worked for Obama like Comey, McCabe, Brennan, etc. who are about to be indicted.

Termin8tor » 01 Jul 2019 1:59 pm » wrote:Cite one single time I've opined against allowing "brown people" into the country.

Termin8tor » 26 Jun 2019 10:53 am » wrote:It isn't their country. It's ours.

Termin8tor » 01 Jul 2019 3:43 pm » wrote:

Misty » 01 Jul 2019 3:39 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 01 Jul 2019 1:59 pm wrote:Cite one single time I've opined against allowing "brown people" into the country.

Oh, I don't know, how about when you said this:

It ain't their country.
It's ours.

Gosh, when did "ours" become a racial term, wackjob? Where can I find that in the dictionary.

Termin8tor » 26 Jun 2019 10:53 am » wrote:It isn't their country. It's ours.

Termin8tor » 01 Jul 2019 3:57 pm » wrote: Indictments are coming, and they won't be for process crimes.