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OBAMA WHITE HOUSE PHOTOGRAPHER SUGGESTS TRUMP SITUATION ROOM PHOTO OF UNFOLDING AL-BAGHDADI RAID WAS STAGED

The chief official White House photographer for former Presidents Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama suggested the Trump administration was posing for Saturday's stern-faced Situation Room picture in the wake of a U.S. military raid that resulted in the death of a major ISIS figurehead.

Pete Souza, the former director of the White House Photography Office, called the timestamp of the Situation Room picture into question Sunday morning.

Souza inferred that it's very unlikely President Donald Trump, Vice President Mike Pence and several top administration officials and generals were actively monitoring the raid on ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's compound when the photograph was taken Saturday in Washington.

Souza took the famous photograph of Obama and a shocked then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton intently watching the Seal Team 6 raid on the Abbottabad compound that killed al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden in 2011.



"The raid, as reported, took place at 3:30PM Washington time.

The photo, as shown in the camera IPTC data, was taken at '17:05:24,'" Souza remarked on Twitter Sunday.

He was replying to a tweet from White House Director of Social Media and Assistant to the President, Dan Scavino Jr.

The Situation Room picture was taken Saturday by Chief Official White House Photographer for President Donald Trump, Shealah Craighead, former official photographer for First Lady Laura Bush.

The al-Baghdadi Situation Room photo Saturday showed Trump; Pence; National Security Advisor Robert O'Brien; Secretary of Defense Mark Esper; Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff U.S. Army General Mark A. Milley; and Brig. Gen. Marcus Evans, Deputy Director for Special Operations on the Joint Staff.

All six men are shown in stiff, postured stances, giving squinted glares toward the camera.

The Trump photo is far more symmetrical and organized than the Obama White House Situation Room picture taken during the bin Laden compound raid in 2011.

Clinton can be seen holding her mouth in shock and Defense Secretary Robert Gates is crossing his arms in front of a jumble of administration officials and generals who are standing behind them.

Another Twitter user said it didn't seem unreasonable that Trump and the generals "were still there 2 hours later waiting for the crew to return to the base," when the picture was taken.

"Sure, it's possible," Souza replied.

In response to another now-deleted tweet, Souza continued acknowledging, that at the very least, it is possible the raid was still ongoing when Trump was photographed Saturday.

"It's entirely possible that the raid was still going on at 5:05 p.m.

Before drawing definite conclusions about the photo, reporters need to nail down the actual timeline of the raid."

Daily Kos Trending News Manager Jennifer Hayden remarked that a Trump golf outing tracker showed the president was golfing at 3:33 p.m. Washington time, as the raid was happening.

Termin8tor » 27 Oct 2019 1:37 pm » wrote:Yadda, yadda, yadda........

Soon as I posted in here you jumped right on it, and made five posts in a row in rapid succession.
WTF?
Do you sit there waiting for me you obsessive freak?

Termin8tor » 27 Oct 2019 1:37 pm » wrote:Why do you keep changing the subject from Hillary, Obama officials and the DNC, wackjob?
Why is your outrage directed only at Trump, not at them?

That is really **** ironic coming from you.
Trump is the president right now who has publicly asked both Ukraine and China to help him with his re-election in 2020 by investigating a political rival.

Hillary is NOT the president, and is not running for president in 2020.
But you continue to use her to deflect from what your dear leader is doing right now.

Termin8tor » 27 Oct 2019 1:37 pm » wrote:Trump's conduct was investigated and zero crimes found.

According to Baghdad Barr, who also dismissed the whistleblower report without even investigating it.

Watch video here:

https://twitter.com/yokoboji/status/118 ... 78242?s=19

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UbLQJF2sElk

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/2 ... ers-000301

Right.
He's always looking for corruption that he can get involved in to make money.

I give Trump as much credit for killing al-Baghdadi as he gave Obama for killing Bin Laden.

Trump sycophants are demading open impeachment hearings.
They should be careful what they wish for.

WASHINGTON — A White House national security official who is a decorated Iraq war veteran plans to tell House impeachment investigators on Tuesday that he heard President Trump appeal to Ukraine’s president to investigate one of his leading political rivals, a request the aide considered so damaging to American interests that he reported it to a superior.

Lt. Col. Alexander S. Vindman of the Army, the top Ukraine expert on the National Security Council, twice registered internal objections about how Mr. Trump and his inner circle were treating Ukraine, out of what he called a “sense of duty,” he plans to tell the inquiry, according to a draft of his opening statement obtained by The New York Times.

He will be the first White House official to testify who listened in on the July 25 telephone call between Mr. Trump and President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine that is at the center of the impeachment inquiry, in which Mr. Trump asked Mr. Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/us/p ... hxNexziHXQ

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-off ... id-account

So he lied.
What a shock.

Misty » 27 Oct 2019 1:35 pm » wrote:

Russian GENERAL PISSOFF is flummoxed!!!

Termin8tor » 29 Oct 2019 9:32 am » wrote:
Gosh, won't Americans be upset that a crowd of Beltway Democrats booed the president; 95% or so vote Democrat every single election.

There are more Democrats than Republicans in America and a MAJORITY of voters want Trump impeached and removed from office so you can PRETEND this is an aberration but that is YOU being a BRAINWASHED MORON

Oh, wait.

Trump can use this as a campaign ad, moonbat.

I WISH he were stupid enough to do that

But yes, Obama was beloved by Beltway residents, which is why so many attempted a coup attempt at his request.

You are a LIAR and a GUTLESS coward there is NO WAY that a legitimate investigation is in ANY way a coup attempt that is what you were TOLD to think and you are SO STUPID you always think what the rightwing screechmonkeys tell you to think If it were a COUP then explain THIS

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/06/timel ... stigation/In July 2016, the FBI began investigating the Russian government’s attempt to influence the 2016 presidential election, including whether President Donald Trump’s campaign associates were involved in those efforts.The START of the whole thing was a bunch of intelligence agencies like Estonia and Germany and Britian was telling OUR intelligence agencies that whenever they were spying on KNOWN and suspected Russian intelligence assets they kept hearing Trump campaign people
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... nks-russiaGCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added.
Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.
The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.Another source suggested the Dutch and the French spy agency, the General Directorate for External Security or DGSE, were contributors.
It is understood that GCHQ was at no point carrying out a targeted operation against Trump or his team or proactively seeking information. The alleged conversations were picked up by chance as part of routine surveillance of Russian intelligence assets. Over several months, different agencies targeting the same people began to see a pattern of connections that were flagged to intelligence officials in the US.
Trump was getting advance notice from wikileaks about their dumps wikileaks was called by Trumps own pick for head of the CIA a hostile intelligence agency but Trump touted them at LEAST 100 times
https://www.vox.com/2019/4/19/18507743/ ... -wikileaksTrumps campaign manager repeatedly gave a man he KNEW was connected to Russian Military Intelligence INTERNAL polling data and Manafort discussed their strategy for the midwest with him
https://www.newsweek.com/paul-manafort- ... gn-1400826The report noted that Manafort instructed his longtime colleague Rick Gates to provide Kilimnik with internal Trump campaign polling data and briefings on the campaign's strategies. For years, Manafort and Kilimnik worked together closely on political campaigns in Ukraine. Manafort even nicknamed Kilimnik his "Russian brain." The FBI has determined that Kilimnik, who was once a Russian military translator, has links to Russian intelligence services.
Sessions, Page, Manafort, Papadopolous, Jared, Don jr, Gates, Mcfarland ALL had contacts with Russians then LIED about them. Either you can cough up an innocent explanation for all that LYING or that alone justifies the investigationThe Trump campaign had more than 140 contacts with Russians the normal presidential campaign has ZERO
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... e=REGIWALLJan 26, 2019 - Donald J. Trump and 18 of his associates had at least 140 contacts with Russian nationals and WikiLeaks, or their intermediaries,
If you cant explain why all this is SO NORMAL it was a coup attempt to investigate it then you are a LIAR and you know it so ADDRESS THE FACTS OR STFU you GUTLESS COWARD

Termin8tor » 29 Oct 2019 9:32 am » wrote:

President greeted with "Lock him up chants.

Gosh, won't Americans be upset that a crowd of Beltway Democrats booed the president; 95% or so vote Democrat every single election.

Did you take a poll to see how many of those people were Democrats, you jackass?
Those tickets are very expensive.
I doubt that most of those people were ordinary run of the mill Democrats.
A lot of Republicans who live in DC are rooting for the Nats too.
Probably a lot of Republicans and rich lobbyists in that crowd.

You Trumpettes live in a **** bubble.
Because you only see him in front of staged crowds like at his rallies, you think he's a lot more popular than he actually is.

Termin8tor » 24 Oct 2019 1:52 pm » wrote:

Misty » 24 Oct 2019 1:35 pm » wrote:

THE GAPING ASSHOLE SAID: I have never claimed that Hillary's or Obama officials' or the DNC's collusion with Ukraine was a crime, psycho, unless it was done by government workers obligated to abide by the Hatch Act.

Yet you whine about it every day while completely ignoring what Trump is doing right now.
He has publicly asked both Ukraine and China to open investigations into Joe Biden and his son.

There is zero chance that China will do that, wackjob. What, you expect them to say,"Yes, we bribed Biden through his son and many, many other Beltway politicians from both parties, too?"

Zero chance, huh Precious?

A White House adviser is flip-flopping on whether China gave him information on Joe Biden's son after Trump asked Beijing to investigate the Bidens.

An informal White House adviser on China is giving conflicting accounts to media organizations over whether China gave him information about former Vice President Joe Biden's son's activities in China, the same week that President Donald Trump urged the country to probe the Bidens.

First, the adviser, Michael Pillsbury, told The Financial Times he got "quite a bit of background on Hunter Biden from the Chinese."

"I tried to bring up the topic in Beijing," Pillsbury said.

"I've never seen them get so secretive in my entire life.

They would discuss ICBM warheads sooner than talk about what Hunter Biden was doing in China with Vice President Biden."

Hours later, Pillsbury changed his story, telling C-SPAN he hadn't spoken with FT in over a month.

But FT's Washington bureau chief released an email exchange between him and Pillsbury, in which Pillsbury wrote, "Actually, I got quite a bit of background on Hunter Biden from the Chinese."

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-a ... en-2019-10

Termin8tor » 30 Oct 2019 5:55 am » wrote:
Speaking of bubbles, we're not the ones who fell for 2 1/2 years of lies, propaganda and **** about Trump colluding with Russia, committing treason, obstructing justice, and the rest of that hooey.

You are a LIAR and a GUTLESS COWARD who REFUSES to ADDRESS THE FACTS no matter how many times I shove them in your FACE you are just a PROVEN LIAR who prefers to TELL STUPID LIES to facing REALITY

Who did? You wackjobs.

Says YOU PROVEN LIAR and GUTLESS COWARD


He's more popular now than he was when he was elected, and even many Democrats are beginning to panic at how pathetically weak your field is.

You are A LIAR. If he is so much more popular then why do more than HALF of voters want him IMPEACHED AND REMOVED FROM OFFICE? He has NEVER topped 50% approval ratings from the RCP aggregate or really any CREDIBLE poll. You are so STUPID you not only lie to us you lie to yourself

Looks like Minnesota is going red, and Wisconsin might well be out of reach for your corrupt party.

How things look to YOU mean NOTHING you are a PROVEN LIAR and a BRAINWASHED MORON THIS is how Minnesota looks in REALITY

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/minnesota/

Klobachar over Trump 55% to 38%

Sanders over Trump 49% to 40%

Warren over Trump 51% to 40%

Biden over Trump 50% to 38%

GOD you are STUPID and brainwashed

The Liar-In-Chief keeps saying that he released a full transcript of his call to the president of Ukraine, word for word, comma for comma.

But this is what it says right in the memo.

"A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation.· (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion.
The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty Officers and-NSC policy staff assigned to listen and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place.
A number of factors can affect the accuracy of the record, including poor telecommunications connections and variations in accent and/or interpretation.
The word "inaudible" is used to indicate portions of a conversation that the notetaker was unable to hear."

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a National Security Council official raised concerns about the Trump administration's efforts to push Ukraine to conduct investigations into political rivals, reportedly told Congress on Tuesday that the White House text of a July 25 call between President Trump and the Ukrainian president was missing certain words and phrases.

According to The New York Times, Vindman said the omissions from the call memo included Trump mentioning recordings of former vice president Joe Biden discussing Ukraine corruption and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s explicit mention of Burisma Holdings, the company that had Biden’s son Hunter on its board.

Vindman said there are ellipses in the memo that indicate dropped words, and Trump spoke about tapes of Biden where the third ellipsis is placed.

Instead of the words “Burisma Holdings,” the memo only mentions “the company.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/alexander ... ey-phrases

Misty » 30 Oct 2019 1:07 pm » wrote:The Liar-In-Chief keeps saying that he released a full transcript of his call to the president of Ukraine, word for word, comma for comma.

But this is what it says right in the memo.

"A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation.· (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion.
The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty Officers and-NSC policy staff assigned to listen and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place.
A number of factors can affect the accuracy of the record, including poor telecommunications connections and variations in accent and/or interpretation.
The word "inaudible" is used to indicate portions of a conversation that the notetaker was unable to hear."

Between Vindman and Taylor there just isn't ANY rational defense left for Trump.The best the right can do is ADMIT Trump's blatant corruption and say it isn't impeachable

Termin8tor » 30 Oct 2019 5:51 am » wrote:

Misty » 29 Oct 2019 8:09 pm » wrote:Zero chance, huh Precious?

Oh my gosh, you mean Trump was not only investigating corruption but getting actual evidence about it?

Keep spewing that **** talking point that this was all about Trump being concerned about corruption.
Nobody is buying that **** and it makes you look like an idiot.

He is the MOST corrupt president to ever hold that office.