Flying Monkeys
By Nobody
11 Mar 2011 1:42 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
7 Nov 2019 6:24 pm
Yes and several of those people were so concerned about the call that they reported it to WH lawyers, one of which locked it up in a top secret server.Termin8tor » 07 Nov 2019 6:10 pm » wrote:Except that there are five or six people listening.Misty » 30 Oct 2019 1:07 pm » wrote:The Liar-In-Chief keeps saying that he released a full transcript of his call to the president of Ukraine, word for word, comma for comma.
But this is what it says right in the memo.
"A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation.· (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion.
The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty Officers and-NSC policy staff assigned to listen and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place.
A number of factors can affect the accuracy of the record, including poor telecommunications connections and variations in accent and/or interpretation.
The word "inaudible" is used to indicate portions of a conversation that the notetaker was unable to hear."
Why would he have done that, if as Trump insists, the call was 'perfect?'
It's NOT my **** theory you gaping asshole.Termin8tor » 07 Nov 2019 6:10 pm » wrote:So this is your latest wackjob conspiracy theory, that the transcript isn't accurate?
You're kidding, right?
It says right on the first page that it is NOT a verbatim transcript.
And lest we forget there are three ellipses in that memorandum.
So we have no idea what was left out, but the witnesses who heard the actual call do.
7 Nov 2019 6:28 pm
A unicorn jockey? A my little pony believer? An unexamined talking points receptacle? A subject of mind control? A classic Stockholm Syndrome victim? A doe-eyed mush bucket in which absolute poppycock finds a comfortable nest in which to grow and take flight?
I'm not saying all that - come on. Stop projecting.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
7 Nov 2019 6:30 pm
Are you saying My Little Pony is not real?Cannonpointer » 07 Nov 2019 6:28 pm » wrote:A unicorn jockey? A my little pony believer? An unexamined talking points receptacle? A subject of mind control? A classic Stockholm Syndrome victim? A doe-eyed mush bucket in which absolute poppycock finds a comfortable nest in which to grow and take flight?
I'm not saying all that - come on. Stop projecting.
7 Nov 2019 6:34 pm
It's as real as you want it to be, Princess!
The tiara is plastic, cheap baubles and paste, though.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
7 Nov 2019 8:07 pm
Who is the hack of which you speak oh gaping asshole?Termin8tor » 07 Nov 2019 7:08 pm » wrote:Here's a hint, Dim. It's none of that hack's business that he had concerns.Misty » 07 Nov 2019 6:24 pm » wrote:Yes and several of those people were so concerned about the call that they reported it to WH lawyers, one of which locked it up in a top secret server.Termin8tor » 07 Nov 2019 6:10 pm » wrote:Except that there are five or six people listening.
So this is your latest wackjob conspiracy theory, that the transcript isn't accurate?
You're kidding, right?
Why would he have done that, if as Trump insists, the call was 'perfect?'
WTF does that even mean, other than that he was a leftist Deep State hack intent on undermining a president he didn't like?
Surely you don't mean Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman.
I have no idea what you are talking about.Termin8tor » 07 Nov 2019 7:08 pm » wrote:In fact his superior office was so disturbed by this hack's attitude that he reprimanded him.More will come out that will completely discredit him.
Is that from your precious gatewaypundit or is that another pearl you pulled straight out of your ***?
Riddle me this you big **** gaping asshole, why was the actual transcript of the call hidden in a top secret server meant only to be used for the most sensitive matters of national security like covert actions?
And don't bother to deny it.
They admitted it.
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politi ... story.html
Isn't it ironic that Trump did nothing wrong but refuses to let anyone testify on his behalf.
Surely if they had anything to say that would exonerate him, he would allow them to speak.
Don'tcha think?
7 Nov 2019 9:58 pm
7 Nov 2019 10:01 pm
Crickets from Clem who never misses one of my posts.Misty » 07 Nov 2019 2:12 pm » wrote:President Donald Trump has been ordered by a New York State judge to pay $2 million to a group of nonprofit organizations as part of a settlement in a civil lawsuit stemming from persistent violations of state charities laws.
The payment is the final resolution to a case brought by the New York attorney general's office after the Trump Foundation held a fundraiser for military veterans during the 2016 campaign.
The televised fundraiser took in nearly $3 million in donations that were dispersed on the eve of the Iowa caucuses as directed by then-campaign chief Corey Lewandowski.
The two million must be paid by President Trump himself for breaching his fiduciary duty to properly oversee the foundation that bears his name.
"I direct Mr. Trump to pay the $2,000,000, which would have gone to the Foundation if it were still in existence, on a pro rata basis to the Approved Recipients," Judge Saliann Scarpulla wrote.
The lawsuit filed by the state's attorney general accused President Trump -- along with his children, Donald Jr., Eric and Ivanka -- of conflating charity with politics, repeatedly using charitable donations for personal, political and business gains, including legal settlements, campaign contributions and even to purchase a portrait of Trump to hang at one of his hotels.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/trump-fou ... ssion=true
Once again his dear leader has been proven to be a fraud.
Unlike lawsuits he has settled in the past, this time the settlement included a detailed admission by Trump of the misconduct.
8 Nov 2019 12:03 pm
GOD you are stupid and a GUTLESS COWARD will you EVER even TRY to ADDRESS the FACTS?Termin8tor » 08 Nov 2019 8:26 am » wrote:
Big freaking deal. A minor amount of money that I assume was chump change tax fraud.
In other words OF COURSE Trump is a CRIMINAL who thinks laws don't apply to him and commits FELONIES. Treason Monkey TRAITOR H8er DOESN'T CARE
Did Trump illegally sell favors, access, grants of taxpayer money, foreign policy, etc. in exchange for $1 billion from Special Interests and foreign governments like the Clinton's did?
Clinton did NO SUCH THING you are a PROVEN LIAR. You telling LIES doesn't make anyone else a criminal. What Trump DID DO was hold up PUBLIC MONEY already appropriated to the UKRAINE for our OWN national interest demanding they do him a favor for his own PERSONAL POLITICAL BENEFIT.
Crickets or you'll censor my post.
8 Nov 2019 1:05 pm
2 million dollars is a 'minor' amount of money?Termin8tor » 08 Nov 2019 8:26 am » wrote:Big freaking deal. A minor amount of money that I assume was chump change tax fraud.Misty » 07 Nov 2019 10:01 pm » wrote:Crickets from Clem who never misses one of my posts.
Once again his dear leader has been proven to be a fraud.
Unlike lawsuits he has settled in the past, this time the settlement included a detailed admission by Trump of the misconduct.
And you 'assume' it was about tax fraud, as if that wouldn't matter?
You are so **** predictable.
First of all he put almost none of his own money into his family foundation.Termin8tor » 08 Nov 2019 8:26 am » wrote:Did Trump illegally sell favors, access, grants of taxpayer money, foreign policy, etc. in exchange for $1 billion from Special Interests and foreign governments like the Clinton's did? Crickets or you'll censor my post.
And secondly he used the money that other people contributed to promote his own campaign, pay legal fees for his businesses, make political contributions and buy a bunch of **** for himself.
Sorry Precious, you don't get to continue to use the Clintons as an excuse for anything Trump does.Trump’s three eldest children — Ivanka, Donald Jr. and Eric — were also named in the original lawsuit, because they were listed as board members at the foundation.
In reality, the board did not meet at all for 19 straight years, from 1999 to 2018.
[....]
The Trump Foundation had been a relatively small charity that in recent years had received very little in donations from Trump himself.
He donated nothing from 2009 to 2015.
Instead, the foundation subsisted largely on a gift from pro-wrestling moguls Vince and Linda McMahon: $5 million in total.
Linda McMahon was later appointed by Trump as head of the Small Business Administration.
The foundation’s troubles were first uncovered in 2016 — starting when a Post reporter attended a Trump campaign rally in Waterloo, Iowa. Onstage, Trump gave away a $100,000 check from the Trump Foundation to a local charity.
Federal law prohibits charities’ money from “participating” in political campaigns.
In addition, The Post found that Trump had used the charity’s money to make a $25,000 donation to a political committee associated with then-Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi (R). Charities are prohibited from making political gifts.
The Post also found that Trump had taken more than $250,000 from the charity to settle lawsuits involving his for-profit businesses.
And Trump had used the charity to buy things for himself, including a helmet signed by former pro football player Tim Tebow, and a large painting of himself that was later hung on the wall of Trump’s Doral golf resort in Miami.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
Nothing the Clintons may have done changes the fact that Trump and his whole family are a bunch of frauds and grifters.
8 Nov 2019 1:27 pm
This was not just about one phone call.
This was an ongoing effort by Trump and his cronies to pressure the Ukrainian president to get political help from him in exchange for the military aid approved by Congress.
And he was about to cave until news of the delay of the aid came out.
This was an ongoing effort by Trump and his cronies to pressure the Ukrainian president to get political help from him in exchange for the military aid approved by Congress.
And he was about to cave until news of the delay of the aid came out.
Ukrainian President Was Booked to Announce Biden Investigation on CNN, Says Report
Ukraine’s president was booked to make a statement about opening an investigation into the Biden family in a CNN interview before fate intervened, The New York Times reports.
Volodymyr Zelensky’s staffers had reportedly conceded it was inevitable that he’d have to bow to President Trump’s demands to announce investigations against his political enemies or permanently lose millions of dollars in military aid.
Aides were approached in September by Gordon Sondland, U.S. ambassador to the European Union, who made clear there was little chance of aid being given until there was a public statement.
Trump wanted the Ukrainian president to speak on CNN, and Zelensky’s staff planned for him to make an announcement on Sept. 13 in an interview with the network’s Fareed Zakaria.
However, two days before the scheduled interview, news of the military aid delay leaked and Congress was furious.
The Trump administration was forced to release the aid and the spot was canceled, according to the report.
“The Zelensky team was ready to make this quid quo pro,” said Petro Burkovskiy, an academic who has close ties to the Ukrainian government.
8 Nov 2019 1:36 pm
QUID PRO QUO means THIS FOR THAT.
The THIS was DEFENSE DOLLARS.
The THAT was DIRT.
DEFENSE DOLLARS FOR DIRT.
QUID PRO QUO.
The THIS was DEFENSE DOLLARS.
The THAT was DIRT.
DEFENSE DOLLARS FOR DIRT.
QUID PRO QUO.
8 Nov 2019 2:01 pm
I'll take what does Clem contribute to this forum for $500 Alex.
8 Nov 2019 2:04 pm
I'll take how many times has Clem told the truth for $1,000 Alex.
8 Nov 2019 2:09 pm
No because unlike Trump they were not doing it for their own private gain.Termin8tor » 08 Nov 2019 1:58 pm » wrote:Three Democrat Senators sent a letter to then then Prime Minister of Ukraine demanding that he cooperate with the Mueller investigation or they'd cut off his funding.QUID PRO QUO means THIS FOR THAT.
The THIS was DEFENSE DOLLARS.
The THAT was DIRT.
DEFENSE DOLLARS FOR DIRT.
QUID PRO QUO.
QUID PRO QUO.
Were any of them indicted?
Are they going to be?
No, because you and your utterly corrupt party are full of ****.
Bribery as mentioned in the Constitution was understood by the Founders as an officeholder’s abuse of the power of an office to obtain a private benefit rather than for the public interest.
And it is an impeachable offense.
8 Nov 2019 3:21 pm
Oh give it up already, would ya?Termin8tor » 08 Nov 2019 2:14 pm » wrote:Trump seeking evidence for an ongoing federal criminal probe isn't "personal," psycho.Misty » 08 Nov 2019 2:09 pm » wrote:No because unlike Trump they were not doing it for their own private gain.Termin8tor » 08 Nov 2019 1:58 pm » wrote:Three Democrat Senators sent a letter to then then Prime Minister of Ukraine demanding that he cooperate with the Mueller investigation or they'd cut off his funding.
QUID PRO QUO.
Were any of them indicted?
Are they going to be?
No, because you and your utterly corrupt party are full of ****.
Nobody is buying that pile of ****.
Trump wanted the Ukrainian president to publicly announce that he was investigating Joe Biden, so that he could use it to benefit him politically.
Just like he used the Hillary Clinton email investigation to his advantage in 2016.
And Zelensky almost did it.
The interview was scheduled.
Ukraine's President Was One CNN Interview Away From Giving In to Trump and Giuliani's Pressure Campaign
8 Nov 2019 3:50 pm
That's not a **** talking point you imbecile.Termin8tor » 08 Nov 2019 2:15 pm » wrote:There's the latest Official Democrat Talking Point Lie, which she claims she NEVER tells.Misty » 08 Nov 2019 2:09 pm » wrote:Bribery as mentioned in the Constitution was understood by the Founders as an officeholder’s abuse of the power of an office to obtain a private benefit rather than for the public interest.
And it is an impeachable offense.
First of all, the Justice Dep't under Barr is totally corrupt.Termin8tor » 08 Nov 2019 2:15 pm » wrote:Except that the pertinent legal office of the Justice Dept. examined the conversation and determined that zero crimes were committed.
And secondly you do NOT have to violate any specific statute to be impeached.
I have told you that many times, but it doesn't seem to be sinking in to your thick skull.
Maybe Lindsey Graham can make you understand.
There were no bribery statutes when the Constitution was written, yet the Constitution lists "Treason, Bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors" as impeachable offenses.
And one more thing........This was not just about the one phone call, so stop pretending that it was.As former Justice Department lawyer Ben Berwick argues, “the concept of high crimes and misdemeanors can’t be limited by statutes” since, until the mid-20th century, criminal law “followed the common law model” and the “same goes for bribery,” since “there was no general federal bribery statute at all until 1853.”
There’s not much logic, then, to invoking contemporary laws to resolve whether the president’s conduct is impeachable, when the conduct fits within an impeachable offense already spelled out in the Constitution’s text.
[....]
The Founders had no intent of tying the constitutional definition of bribery to federal criminal statutory law.
On the most basic level, no federal criminal code existed at the time that the Constitution was drafted.
Beyond that, the Framers had no reason to believe that Congress would enact federal criminal statutes in the future.
As Laurence Tribe and Joshua Matz explain in their comprehensive book on impeachment, “To End a Presidency,” criminal law was understood to be the province of the states, and there was very little federal criminal law at all until the mid-20th century.
To the extent there was federal criminal law, it followed the common law model.
That is why the concept of high crimes and misdemeanors can’t be limited by federal statutes.
The same goes for bribery—as there was no general federal bribery statute at all until 1853.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/constitution-says-bribery-impeachable-what-does-mean
There was an ongoing campaign, by Trump, Giuliani and his two buddies Lev and Igor, Sondland and others to pressure the Ukrainian president to open investigations that would benefit Trump politically in exchange for the military aid that was approved by Congress, which Trump was withholding.
That is what all the career diplomats have been testifying about, but of course you won't read any of their testimony as you always prefer to remain willfully ignorant.
8 Nov 2019 5:41 pm
Second person says he told Rep. Jim Jordan about sexual misconduct at Ohio State
A college wrestling referee says he reported sexual misconduct involving a former doctor who’s been accused sexually abusing nearly 300 hundred men over a 17-year period to Rep.
Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), a former assistant wrestling coach at Ohio State.
The congressman was dismissive, according to a lawsuit filed Thursday in federal court, and the doctor, Richard Strauss, continued to treat and abuse students at the school.
Ohio State says it’s aware of 1,429 instances of fondling and 47 instances of rape involving Strauss, who committed suicide in 2005.
Thursday’s filing marks the 13th lawsuit against the school.
Jordan has found himself at the periphery of the controversy because some former wrestlers have said he was aware — or should have been aware — of Strauss’s misconduct.
Jordan has denied any knowledge of the abuse, and did so again on Friday.
9 Nov 2019 12:41 pm
You are a LIAR. I have already PUNKED you on this issue over and over there was NEVER any contacts between the Clinton campaign and Russians meanwhile Russia had more than 200 with the Trump campaign. This is YOU being a TRAITOR. Pusing Russian Military Intelligence propaganda trying to say that ANY investigation OF Trump and Russia is colluding with Russia. You are a TRAITOR and a BRAINWASHED MORON and a LIARTermin8tor » 09 Nov 2019 7:48 am » wrote:
Yeah, the truth never convinces anyone.
How would you KNOW all you do is LIE constantly you are a PROVEN LIAR. I have PROVEN you are a LIAR several times you are so STUPID you wouldn't know the truth from a lemonade stand
Hillary Clinton colluded with the Russians to interfere in the 2016 election.
9 Nov 2019 7:16 pm
9 Nov 2019 7:28 pm
These allegations have been out there for a long time you gaping asshole.Termin8tor » 09 Nov 2019 7:31 am » wrote:Isn't it just an amazing coincidence that these allegations come out when Jordan is put on the Intelligence Committee to defend Trump from Democrats' lies.
The reason this came up again is because someone filed a lawsuit the other day.
I'm sure that lawsuit was in the works way before it was announced that Jordan was going to the Intel Committee.
Wrong.Termin8tor » 09 Nov 2019 7:31 am » wrote:Just like how Trump was never accused of racism until he became president.
Those of us who lived in New York always knew he was a racist.
He was sued for housing descrimination, and there was the Central Park Five thing.
Plus he was a Birther for years BEFORE he became president
Maybe he should stop tossing Putin's salad.Termin8tor » 09 Nov 2019 7:31 am » wrote:Just like he was always accepted as a patriotic American, then shazzam, he's an agent of Russia.
Who the **** even knew him before he was nominated?Termin8tor » 09 Nov 2019 7:31 am » wrote:Just like the many smears of Kavanaugh didn't come out until he was nominated for the Supreme Court.
Says the biggest smear artist on the forum.Termin8tor » 09 Nov 2019 7:31 am » wrote:Liberals can't debate issues honestly, so they lie and smear.
You would smear your own mother if she criticized your dear leader.
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