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Termin8tor » 11 Feb 2020 1:18 pm » wrote:Why didn't the Impeachment Show Clowns include any of the many crimes you've accused Trump of in their bill?

You are a LIAR a GUTLESS COWARD and a TRAITOR. That has been ANSWERED over and over. You just keep TELLING THE LIE and CLAIMING it has not been answered because you are a LIAR and a TRAITOR and you think everyone reading these posts are as STUPID and easily brainwashed as YOU are TRAITOR

Termin8tor » 11 Feb 2020 1:16 pm » wrote:

Misty » 11 Feb 2020 12:53 pm » wrote: Hey moron! Trump was in favor of Stop and Frisk.

So what? I didn't criticize Bloomberg for doing that.

Oh, I thought this was you.

Termin8tor » 11 Feb 2020 12:40 pm » wrote:Gosh, just about the time Democrats thought they'd be saved from Bernie by Bloomberg, this comes out.
Have you got one single candidate who has any chance at all of defeating Trump?

Misty » 26 Jan 2020 12:18 pm » wrote: But between 2014 and 2016, the United States committed more than $600 million in security assistance to Ukraine.

Of which 500 million landed in democrat pockets.

Termin8tor » 11 Feb 2020 12:30 pm » wrote:

Misty » 11 Feb 2020 11:38 am » wrote:Prosecutors recommend up to 9 years for Stone.

Oh my gosh, how dare the Justice Dept. be fair and objective!

They're being so 'fair and objective' that prosecutors are starting to resign behind that ****.

Prosecutor in Roger Stone case resigns after Justice Dept. backs away from sentencing recommendation.

Second Roger Stone prosecutor leaves case after Justice Dept. backs away from sentencing recommendation.

'Bout **** time.
There should be mass resignations at the DOJ in protest of how crooked Baghdad Barr is.
He's supposed to be the chief law enforcement officer of the Federal Government.
He's not there to protect Sniffles and his criminal gang.

Cannonpointer » 11 Feb 2020 3:27 pm » wrote:

Misty » 26 Jan 2020 12:18 pm » wrote:But between 2014 and 2016, the United States committed more than $600 million in security assistance to Ukraine.

Of which 500 million landed in democrat pockets.

There are Democrats living in Ukraine?

Misty » 11 Feb 2020 3:36 pm » wrote: There are Democrats living in Ukraine?

No, they just go there to execute quids pro quo with allotted funds. And those are legal, too, so long as "everybody" wants you to do it.

My GOD the STUPIDITY. I cannot IMAGINE the STUPIDITY required to not understand the difference between We will hold up our foreign aid until you fire a prosecutor SO CORRUPT that the Ukrainian parliment the Ukrainian people, The IMF the WORLD BANK, th EU, OUR NATIONAL POLICY and both Democratic and REPUBLICAN Senators want him gone and we are going to hold up your aid until you give ME A PERSONAL POLITICAL BENEFIT for my campaign. I mean that level of STUPIDITY is unimaginable

More shoes dropping.

Three Roger Stone prosecutors resign from case after DOJ backpedals on sentencing recommendation.

Three prosecutors in Roger Stone's criminal case abruptly resigned from the case on Tuesday after the Justice Department said it planned to reduce the recommended sentence for the longtime Trump associate.

The Justice Department on Tuesday said it was pulling back on its request to sentence Stone to seven to nine years in prison after President Donald Trump blasted the sentencing proposal as "a miscarriage of justice."

The revised recommendation doesn't ask for a particular sentence but says the one that was recommended earlier "does not accurately reflect the Department of Justice’s position on what would be a reasonable sentence in this matter."

"The defendant committed serious offenses and deserves a sentence of incarceration," but based "on the facts known to the government, a sentence of between 87 to 108 months’ imprisonment, however, could be considered excessive and unwarranted under the circumstances.

Ultimately, the government defers to the Court as to what specific sentence is appropriate under the facts and circumstances of this case," the filing said.

After the reports of the imminent softer sentencing recommendation, lead prosecutor Aaron Zelinsky withdrew as a prosecutor in the case.

A footnote in his court filing noted that "the undersigned attorney has resigned effective immediately."

Zelinsky, who was a part of former special counsel Robert Mueller's team investigating Russian election interference, is not resigning from the Justice Department but is leaving the Washington, D.C. U.S. Attorney’s Office and returning to his old job with the U.S. Attorney in Maryland.

Another one of the prosecutors, Jonathan Kravis, also resigned— both from the case and his job as an assistant U.S. attorney.

Kravis on Tuesday filed a notice with the judge saying he "no longer represents the government in this matter."

A third prosecutor, Adam Jed, also withdrew from the case.

Trump in a tweet earlier in the day called the department's initial sentencing proposal "disgraceful!"

"This is a horrible and very unfair situation,” the president wrote in a follow-up post on Twitter.

"The real crimes were on the other side, as nothing happens to them.

Cannot allow this miscarriage of justice!"

He told reporters in the Oval Office later Tuesday that he did not speak to the Justice Department about Stone's sentencing.

Right. And we should believe that.

Termin8tor » 11 Feb 2020 6:36 pm » wrote:

Misty » 11 Feb 2020 3:35 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 11 Feb 2020 12:30 pm » wrote:Oh my gosh, how dare the Justice Dept. be fair and objective!
Another abuse of power by Trump.

They're being so 'fair and objective' that prosecutors are starting to resign behind that ****.

Prosecutor in Roger Stone case resigns after Justice Dept. backs away from sentencing recommendation.

Second Roger Stone prosecutor leaves case after Justice Dept. backs away from sentencing recommendation.

'Bout **** time.
There should be mass resignations at the DOJ in protest of how crooked Baghdad Barr is.
He's supposed to be the chief law enforcement officer of the Federal Government.
He's not there to protect Sniffles and his criminal gang.

You have it all backwards, as usual. The actual criminals are being protected by Mueller's Deep State hacks.

I don't want that deep state **** in my thread.

Termin8tor » 11 Feb 2020 7:03 pm » wrote:

Misty » 26 Jan 2020 2:31 pm » wrote:Why are there three ellipses?
What was left out?
And it is NOT an actual transcript.
It says so right on the front page.

Twice in a press conference earlier this month, Trump went out of his way to say the rough transcript was, in fact, a verbatim recounting of his call with Zelensky. "I had a transcript done by very, very talented people -- word for word, comma for comma," said Trump at one point in that early October news conference. "Done by people that do it for a living. We had an exact transcript." Later, he added that the document was "an exact transcript of my call, done by very talented people that do this -- exact, word for word."
Trump echoed that sentiment on Twitter as well.

That's a big fat lie!

Gosh, Zindman himself testified that the transcript was accurate.
Should he be indicted for perjury, psycho?

Again....it's NOT a **** transcript.
He might have said that the summary of the call was accurate, but he thought it was political, and therefore improper.

Colonel Vindman and Ms. Williams were the first two witnesses at a public hearing who listened in real time to Mr. Trump’s now-infamous July call with President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine. Both said they were alarmed; Ms. Williams called the call “unusual and inappropriate” while Colonel Vindman said it was “wrong.”
[.......]
Colonel Vindman testified that he believed that Mr. Trump’s request for Ukraine to open investigations into the “2016 election, the Bidens and Burisma” — inquiries that could help Mr. Trump’s re-election chances — should be viewed as demands that were “inappropriate and had nothing to do with national security.”
[......]
Ms. Williams and Colonel Vindman added texture to the frustration inside the government about the shadow Ukraine foreign policy being conducted by the president’s personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani and others.

Colonel Vindman testified that he quickly became aware of “former mayor Rudy Giuliani’s promoting false narratives that undermined the United States’ Ukraine policy.”

Their testimony confirms many of the other impeachment witnesses who have described Mr. Giuliani, who has no official government job, as having an outsize role in influencing Mr. Trump’s position on Ukraine.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/19/us/p ... hment.html

And why are you replying to posts from January?

Misty » 11 Feb 2020 12:53 pm » wrote: Hey moron! Trump was in favor of Stop and Frisk.



All of them.



https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... _election/

Were those the same pols that predicted a Hillary win?

Termin8tor » 12 Feb 2020 7:34 am » wrote:
Yes, a lot of people are going to be indicted for fired from Obama's corrupt Deep State. I can't remember in my lifetime so many high FBI officials being fired for cause.

First those prosecutors are part of the corrupt Mueller team.

Second, the sentence they asked for as absurdly high and went grossly against Justice Dept sentencing guidelines.

Third, they misinformed or lied to the Justice Dept about the sentence they were seeking.

I'll bet their resignations were not voluntary, but demanded by Barr.

And good riddance.

Who got fired or indicted? Besides Roger Stone and Manafort?

SJConspirator » 12 Feb 2020 7:56 am » wrote:
Who got fired or indicted? Besides Roger Stone and Manafort?

Oh gosh, no one got fired.

Except the Director of the FBI who is now under criminal investigation.

The former Assistant Director of the FBI who is under criminal investigation.

The former Legal Counsel of the FBI who is under criminal investigation.

Two of the former top two investigators for the FBI who are under criminal investigation.

A top lawyer for the FBI tampered with evidence and will be indicted.

And quite a few more.

At least some of the people who sought four illegal FISA warrants will hopefully be indicted.

And when Durham is finished with his "exponentially expanding" investigation, there will be many indictments.


Try to keep up.

Termin8tor » 12 Feb 2020 12:34 pm » wrote:I smell a landslide.

Trump pulls nomination of former US attorney in charge of Roger Stone case.

President Trump pulled the nomination of a former US attorney who oversaw the prosecution of Roger Stone for a top position in the Treasury Department, according to a report.

The withdrawal of Jessie Liu’s nomination was revealed hours after four federal prosecutors withdrew from the Stone case — when the Justice Department overruled them and said it would seek a more lenient sentence for the longtime Trump ally, Fox News reported late Tuesday.

The prosecutors had been seeking a sentence of up to nine years in prison.

Liu, a former US attorney for Washington, DC, also supervised the case of one-time White House national security adviser Michael Flynn, who was found guilty of lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russian officials while working for the Trump campaign.

She was scheduled to begin her confirmation hearing in the Senate on Thursday.

If confirmed, Liu, 46, would have served as undersecretary for terrorism and financial crimes.

Trump previously had considered nominating her as associate attorney general, the No. 3 slot in the Justice Department, but she withdrew her name last March.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/12/trump-pul ... tone-case/

Misty » 12 Feb 2020 1:09 pm » wrote:Trump pulls nomination of former US attorney in charge of Roger Stone case.

President Trump pulled the nomination of a former US attorney who oversaw the prosecution of Roger Stone for a top position in the Treasury Department, according to a report.
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Good. Lots more will have to be pushed aside, fired or indicted in Trump's quest to drain the Swamp.

Termin8tor » 12 Feb 2020 1:10 pm » wrote:

Misty » 12 Feb 2020 1:09 pm » wrote:Trump pulls nomination of former US attorney in charge of Roger Stone case.

President Trump pulled the nomination of a former US attorney who oversaw the prosecution of Roger Stone for a top position in the Treasury Department, according to a report.

Good. Lots more will have to be pushed aside, fired or indicted in Trump's quest to drain the Swamp.

Are you really this **** stupid?
Trump IS the swamp.
This is all about retribution by the most vindictive man to ever hold the office of president.

And he now has an AG who is doing his bidding by covering up for his friends and going after people whom he sees as his enemies.
That is NOT what the AG is supposed to do.

Only you stupid Trump sychophantic lickspittles think this is a good thing.

Misty » 12 Feb 2020 2:38 pm » wrote: Are you really this **** stupid?
Trump IS the swamp.
This is all about retribution by the most vindictive man to ever hold the office of president.

And he now has an AG who is doing his bidding by covering up for his friends and going after people whom he sees as his enemies.
That is NOT what the AG is supposed to do.

Only you stupid Trump sychophantic lickspittles think this is a good thing.

Trump ALONE chooses who he nominates as a US Attorney! And he's free to use whatever criteria he wants! He clearly doesn't believe that Roger Stone, who was found guilty of a "process crime", should be serving more jail time than convicted murderers and rapists! His arrest should not have involved sending a caravan of armed SWAT teams to his house before dawn, terrorizing his family in order to give CNN a headline exclusive story, and there was no reason to have him placed in solitary confinement for 23 hours a day!

You know DAMN WELL what was going on here! Stone wouldn't tell the lies that were demanded of him about Trump, and that infuriated Mueller's team! Hillary did FAR WORSE THAN THAT, and the same partisan hacks decided what SHE did was "not worth prosecuting"!!! What Trump and Barr have now done IS CALLED JUSTICE!!!

Termin8tor » 12 Feb 2020 3:27 pm » wrote:

I deleted the SAME STUPID LIES you have been telling over and over for MONTHS they are meaningless noise at this point

Your corrupt party and dishonest Obama and Deep state hacks took your best shot at him and completely missed.
The coup attempt failed.

Deleting the REST of your ignorant LIES which have been repeated and debunked DOZENS of times but THIS one I keep PROVING is a LIE and that YOU are a LIAR and a TRAITOR

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/06/timel ...


July 2016, the FBI began investigating the Russian government’s attempt to influence the 2016 presidential election, including whether President Donald Trump’s campaign associates were involved in those efforts.The START of the whole thing was a bunch of intelligence agencies like Estonia and Germany and Britian was telling OUR intelligence agencies that whenever they were spying on KNOWN and suspected Russian intelligence assets they kept hearing Trump campaign people


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... nks-russia


GCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added.Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland.


Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.Another source suggested the Dutch and the French spy agency, the General Directorate for External Security or DGSE, were contributors.It is understood that GCHQ was at no point carrying out a targeted operation against Trump or his team or proactively seeking information. The alleged conversations were picked up by chance as part of routine surveillance of Russian intelligence assets. Over several months, different agencies targeting the same people began to see a pattern of connections that were flagged to intelligence officials in the US.


Trump was getting advance notice from wikileaks about their dumps wikileaks was called by Trumps own pick for head of the CIA a hostile intelligence agency but Trump touted them at LEAST 100 times


https://www.vox.com/2019/4/19/18507743/ ...


Trumps campaign manager repeatedly gave a man he KNEW was connected to Russian Military Intelligence INTERNAL polling data and Manafort discussed their strategy for the midwest with him


https://www.newsweek.com/paul-manafort- .


The report noted that Manafort instructed his longtime colleague Rick Gates to provide Kilimnik with internal Trump campaign polling data and briefings on the campaign's strategies. For years, Manafort and Kilimnik worked together closely on political campaigns in Ukraine. Manafort even nicknamed Kilimnik his "Russian brain." The FBI has determined that Kilimnik, who was once a Russian military translator, has links to Russian intelligence services.


Sessions, Page, Manafort, Papadopolous, Jared, Don jr, Gates, Mcfarland ALL had contacts with Russians then LIED about them. Either you can cough up an innocent explanation for all that LYING or that alone justifies the investigation


The Trump campaign had more than 140 contacts with Russians the normal presidential campaign has ZERO


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... e=REGIWALL

Jan 26, 2019 -
Donald J. Trump and 18 of his associates had at least 140 contacts with Russian nationals and WikiLeaks, or their intermediaries


ADDRESS THE FACTS or STFU you GUTLESS COWARD