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Redistricting is perfectly acceptable. Elections do have consequences, you know. Whose fault is it that your party got beaten like a Frenchman in the last election?

Redistricting is perfectly acceptable.Elections do have consequences, you know.Whose fault is it that your party got beaten like a Frenchman in the last election?I am an unaffiliated voter, always have been. I don't have a party.Redistricting is fine if it's done fairly. Unfortunately it's usually not.Ask Tom Delay. Remember his mid-decade redistricting in 2003? It was the first time that Texas had ever undertaken a mid-decade redistricting that was not ordered by a court. Redistricting in Texas was traditionally done once every ten years, soon after the National Census.SCOTUS eventually found that one of the districts that Delay carved out (#23) constituted racial gerrymandering and was in violation of Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act.

I am an unaffiliated voter, always have been. I don't have a party.One of the biggest lies that's ever been told.So it's just a coincidence that you've spread every Democrat Talking Point Lie that's even been written?

If you belong to a union and you don't like them using your dues to fund Democrats, then I suggest that you get yourself a non-union job. No one is forcing you to work somewhere where you have to join a union. You have free chioce.I notice the choices you offer don't include working to change who the union gives his money too, proving once again you guys don't really approve choice, nor are you tolerant.

Being a new resident of the state of Pennsylvania, this one hits close to home.PA Governor Gives Energy Executive Supreme Authority Over Environmental PermittingPennsylvania has come under fire lately as pollution from drilling in the Marcellus Shale threatens water resources across the state. But instead of ratcheting up oversight, Gov. Tom Corbett wants to hand authority over some of the states most critical environmental decisions to C. Alan Walker, a Pennsylvania energy executive with his own track record of running up against the states environmental regulations.Walker, who has contributed $184,000 to Corbetts campaign efforts since 2004, is CEO and owner of Bradford Energy Company and Bradford Coal, which was once among Pennsylvanias largest coal mining companies. He also owns or has an interest in 12 other companies, including a trucking business and a central Pennsylvania oil and gas company. Walker was Corbetts first appointeehe chose him to lead the Department of Community and Economic Development in December, before taking office. Now, as Corbett stakes much of the states economy on Marcellus Shale gas drilling, a paragraph tucked into the 1,184-page budget gives Walker unprecedented authority to expedite any permit or action pending in any agency where the creation of jobs may be impacted. That includes, presumably, coal, oil, gas and trucking. Its not clear how Corbett can delegate such sweeping authority to the economic development office, which would be reorganized to focus on coordinating with corporate interests and creating job growth. It also isnt clear how the state would address the legal conflicts that could arise if, for example, Walker pushed for approval of a permit that conflicted with the Clean Water Act or other federal laws. The governors office did not respond to repeated requests to clarify Walkers role, and other state agencies deferred to the governor.[....]Walkers ties to the energy industry are deep. He is listed on state disclosure forms as an executive of the Pennsylvania Coal Association and he has served as chairman of the Pennsylvania Chamber of Business and Industry. He also has firsthand experience with the states environmental regulations, because his companies would likely have applied for permits similar to those the oil and gas industry is now pursuing in the Marcellus. And like many energy companies, his, too, have run into problems with the state.[....]In January, the Associated Press found that about 150 million gallons of Marcellus Shale wastewaterthe majority of the wastewater for the period examinedhad been dumped into rivers and streams after only partial treatment. A subsequent story from the New York Times revealed that much of that wastewater was dangerously radioactive, and that drinking water facilities have not been testing their intake for this radioactivity.Read More....BTW, Pennsylvania's new Republican Governor is proposing the nation's biggest cuts in higher education, while he absolutely refuses to tax the gas drilling that is fast becoming one of the state's largest industries. Corbett received nearly $1 million in campaign contributions from donors connected to the gas drilling industry, and he ran on a pledge not to increase any state taxes or fees.

I notice the choices you offer don't include working to change who the union gives his money too, proving once again you guys don't really approve choice, nor are you tolerant.Why should unions give money to the Republican Party that is trying to destroy them?Would you give bullets to someone who is trying to shoot you?Everyone donates to the party that best serves their interests.The Republican Party is the party of the rich and corporate America. That's why those groups give their money to the GOP.The Democratic party is the party of the working (middle) class and labor. That's why they donate to that party.

BTW, Pennsylvania's new Republican Governor is proposing the nation's biggest cuts in higher educationGood. Higher ed is a sacred cow of waste, excessive salaries, tenured leftist professors who teach liberal Disinformation to our kids.Or with a $1.6 trillion deficit, we could just go bankrupt, right?How would you cut the deficit?while he absolutely refuses to tax the gas drilling that is fast becoming one of the state's largest industries. Corbett received nearly $1 million in campaign contributions from donors connected to the gas drilling industry, and he ran on a pledge not to increase any state taxes or fees.Good, he's keeping his promise and refusing to raise taxes on anyone including the middle class, who would end up paying higher energy costs from any tax added on.Unlike Obama, who always intended to violate his promise not to raise taxes on anyone earning less than $250,000.

Good. Higher ed is a sacred cow of waste, excessive salaries, tenured leftist professors who teach liberal Disinformation to our kids.Or with a $1.6 trillion deficit, we could just go bankrupt, right?How would you cut the deficit?Good, he's keeping his promise and refusing to raise taxes on anyone including the middle class, who would end up paying higher energy costs from any tax added on.Unlike Obama, who always intended to violate his promise not to raise taxes on anyone earning less than $250,000.He is already losing support for his position on these two issues. Everything he removes will simply be undone in 4 years.

He is already losing support for his position on these two issues. Everything he removes will simply be undone in 4 years.Translated into non-moonbat English, he'll win re-election in a landslide.

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RichClem, on 12 March 2011 - 02:43 PM, said:Good. Higher ed is a sacred cow of waste, excessive salaries, tenured leftist professors who teach liberal Disinformation to our kids.He is already losing support for his position on these two issues. Everything he removes will simply be undone in 4 years.Clem shows his true Republican stripes. Who needs higher education? The Republicans prefer to keep their base uninformed, so they can convince them to vote against their own best interests. And besides, less educated people means a cheap labor force, and there's nothing the GOP loves more than cheap labor.

The heroine of the Right Wing Flying Monkeys shows off her knowledge of American History once again. First she told us how the Founding Father's fought tirelessy to end slavery, and now this:MANCHESTER, N.H. -- Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann's visit to the first-in-the-nation primary state of New Hampshire got off to a rocky start on Saturday morning when she misstated a key fact about the American Revolution in a speech to a group of local conservative activists and students."What I love about New Hampshire and what we have in common is our extreme love for liberty," the potential GOP presidential candidate said. "You're the state where the shot was heard around the world in Lexington and Concord. And you put a marker in the ground and paid with the blood of your ancestors the very first price that had to be paid to make this the most magnificent nation that has ever arisen in the annals of man in 5,000 years of recorded history."In fact, the 1775 Battles of Lexington and Concord that marked the first military engagements of the American Revolution took place in Massachusetts. But Bachmann did not correct her error when she referenced the battles again later in her speech.Bachmann's contorting of a basic fact about the fight for American independence was made all the more glaring because of her repeated references throughout her speech to the nation's founding.Read More.....Also from that article:As she continues to explore a presidential run, Bachmann said that the Republican Party needed to nominate someone who would usher the country back to its founding principles.Then maybe they should choose someone who knows a little more about the founding of this country than Bachmann does.

She still flaps her gums while retreating from a fight she can't win and lost before she even began! I would highly advise everyone ignoring her. She's just a little, panicked, frightened girl that doesn't know her head from her ***. For whatever reason she has found her way into politics despite being ignorant of even the most fundamental of truths. She's here to fight for her daddy's version of reality, not for herself and her own set of developed beliefs. People like this, deserve not your time nor your thoughts. Just leave it be. For too long we've given credence to fools like this. Edited by Kelliak, 12 March 2011 - 03:24 PM.

Clem shows his true Republican stripes. Who needs higher education?Where did I write that? Can you quote me? No?You're just lying, as usual.We don't need massive federal or any government spending on Higher Ed. All that's done is raise the cost to unaffordable levels; another Democrat Special Interest Group.The Republicans prefer to keep their base uninformed, so they can convince them to vote against their own best interests. And besides, less educated people means a cheap labor force, and there's nothing the GOP loves more than cheap labor.What kind of clueless, ignorant moonbat would want US health care run by Beltway politicians?And the rest of your drivel is just another Democrat Talking Point Lie. Conservatives want Americans well informed about political matters, especially the Constitution.It's your side that relies on ignorance, deceit and Liberal Disinformation. How did the liberal-left react to Repubs reading the Constitution to open Congress?With revulsion, contempt, anger, ridicule.maybe they should choose someone who knows a little more about the founding of this country than Bachmann does.Pretty freaking hilarious given that you've always refused to answer my question as to what those Founding Principles are.They sure as heck never wanted a Liberal Welfare State and Socialized Medicine.The heroine of the Right Wing Flying Monkeys shows off her knowledge of American History once again. First she told us how the Founding Father's fought tirelessy to end slavery:The Constitution did in effect outlaw slavery by guaranteeing "freedom" as given to man by God.It took some time, but the US was the 2nd nation in history to outlaw slavery.

Why should unions give money to the Republican Party that is trying to destroy them?Would you give bullets to someone who is trying to shoot you?Everyone donates to the party that best serves their interests.The Republican Party is the party of the rich and corporate America. That's why those groups give their money to the GOP.The Democratic party is the party of the working (middle) class and labor. That's why they donate to that party.OH?You have the right to make that decision for the rest of America?Do you think that no "middle class and labor" workers give to the republicans?Do you think that "rich and corporate America" doesn't give to the democrats?Do you think that facts don't matter?

OH?You have the right to make that decision for the rest of America?Do you think that no "middle class and labor" workers give to the republicans?Do you think that "rich and corporate America" doesn't give to the democrats?Do you think that facts don't matter?When one ignores factual material that roadblocks fabricated assertions and accusations, that person exposes what is really within that person. It's the democrats that are removing money from my pocket and I'm hardly what one would call "upper class rich".

Everyone donates to the party that best serves their interests.The Republican Party is the party of the rich and corporate America. That's why those groups give their money to the GOP.Repubs, when they are true to their principles, are the Party of Freedom and the private sector.The Democratic party is the party of the working (middle) class and labor. That's why they donate to that party.Democrats are the Party of Big Government, and they'll soak the middle class with higher taxes to pay for it.The overpaid, spoiled, thuggish public employee unions are in roughly the top 10% of income earners, enriching themselves unfairly with Other People's Money.Beyond that, the Liberal Welfare State, corrupt Wall St. fatcat financial companies like Goldman Sachs, Fannie Mae, Freddy Mac, the Government Monopoly School System, etc. etc.All getting highly prosperous if not literally rich from taxpayer money, all of which gave massive amounts of campaign money to Obama and Dems.

When one ignores factual material that roadblocks fabricated assertions and accusations, that person exposes what is really within that person. It's the democrats that are removing money from my pocket and I'm hardly what one would call "upper class rich". It's interesting that the ones who give to the democrats, in her opinion, are the ones who work for the state instead of making a product.

People like this, deserve not your time nor your thoughts. Just leave it be. For too long we've given credence to fools like this.A fool like that could likely win the early primaries.Do you think that no "middle class and labor" workers give to the republicans?Did I say that?Do you think that "rich and corporate America" doesn't give to the democrats?Did I say that?Of course there are exceptions, but in general the rich and corporate America give to the GOP, while the poor, and middle class give to Democrats.

A fool like that could likely win the early primaries.Did I say that?Did I say that?Of course there are exceptions, but in general the rich and corporate America give to the GOP, while the poor, and middle class give to Democrats.Yes, that's exactly what you said.Keep back pedaling, and let us know when you stumble over the truth.The statement I quoted was remarkably false