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Termin8tor » 29 Feb 2020 3:47 pm » wrote:

Misty » 29 Feb 2020 2:41 pm » wrote:

Laura Ingraham accurate described the smear campaign by Democrats, the corrupt liberal MSM and Talking Point Liars.
So freaking what?

Termin8tor » 29 Feb 2020 3:42 pm » wrote:

Misty » 29 Feb 2020 2:53 pm » wrote:Here you go Precious.
This is one of yours.
This nitwit is actually running for Congress.

"One of me?" Liar.

Termin8tor » 29 Feb 2020 3:42 pm » wrote: Here you go, psycho. So what are you going to do, suspend me for defending myself with the facts after you smear me?

Termin8tor » 01 Mar 2020 10:49 am » wrote:

Misty » 29 Feb 2020 4:26 pm » wrote:The FOX News TRUMP TV pundits would better serve their audience by updating them on the COVID-19 virus, instead of attacking Democrats, since their audience skews older and they are the ones most likely to die from it.

Obviously neither you nor your source watch Fox, because their coverage has been excellent.

Termin8tor » 01 Mar 2020 11:07 am » wrote:

Misty » 01 Mar 2020 11:02 am » wrote:Adam Schiff;
Trump is to roll back discrimination protections for LGBTQ people under the guise of religious liberty

Why would you cite any claim from that psychopathic liar? Professional respect?

Termin8tor » 01 Mar 2020 11:07 am » wrote:And what "guise?" Religious liberty is explicitly in the Constitution.
Protection of LGBTQ is not.
So which should take precedent?

Religious liberty is cherished by all Americans as a foundational element of what our country values.

Sadly, the Trump administration has distorted and weaponized religious liberty to attack the LGBTQ community.

House Democrats are providing much-needed accountability today as the House Oversight Committee convenes for a hearing on the topic.

But progressives should be wary of buying into the Trump administration’s and religious right’s framing of the issue. It’s not about religion.

I’m baffled every time I hear President Trump, the religious right — and, yes, sometimes progressives fall into this trap as well — pitting religious liberty and LGBTQ rights against one another.

As a gay Christian, my right to religious liberty and my right to marriage equality played an equal role in my marriage being recognized legally by my country and religiously by my church.

Conservatives suddenly invented this “religious liberty” argument as another means of trampling the dignity of other LGBTQ Americans, many of whom are people of faith.

It’s sad to see the American ideal of religious liberty tarnished by turning it into a license to discriminate.

It’s sad because we have so many real threats to religious liberty today, including the ugly rise of anti-Semitism and the Trump administration’s travel bans involving largely Muslim countries.

Protecting the rights of religious minorities to be able to live with dignity should unite all Americans across the political spectrum.

There are also real attacks on the LGBTQ community by the Trump administration.

These attacks impact many aspects of LGBTQ Americans’ lives, including health care, employment, housing, education, commerce, sports, military service and more.

But these attacks aren’t about religious liberty any more than Bob Jones University’s racist interracial dating policies were actually about religion.

They’re about the troubling use of religion by people who want to discriminate.

People of faith exist on both sides of the divide over whether LGBTQ Americans should be free to live without fear or discrimination.

“Solid majorities of all major religious groups in the U.S. support laws protecting LGBT people from discrimination in housing, public accommodations and the workplace,” according to the Public Religion Research Institute.

Even a majority of the religious groups most opposed to these kinds of protections — white evangelical Protestants — support the idea.

That’s why many religious groups have taken action for LGBTQ rights such as rallying support for the Equality Act.

The bipartisan bill passed the House of Representatives last year and would clarify and add sexual orientation and gender identity as protected characteristics to existing civil rights law, including the Civil Rights Act.

Faith groups also have filed an amicus brief with the Supreme Court in support of Title VII prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity.

The Trump administration, meanwhile, opposes the Equality Act and is fighting LGBTQ rights at the Supreme Court.

One in three of Trump’s nominations to the federal circuit court have a history of anti-LGBTQ bias.

They may repeat over and over again that they are defending religious people, but that doesn’t make it true.

I am grateful that progressives are highlighting the ways the Trump administration is misusing religious liberty to undermine the protections for LGBTQ people that were expanded under the Obama administration.

But let’s not give into conservatives’ framing of the issue.

Instead, let’s remember that President Obama himself cited his own Christian faith in supporting LGBTQ rights.

“[Michelle Obama and I], we’re both practicing Christians,” President Obama reminded the nation in his groundbreaking interview to support same-sex marriage in 2012.

“And when we think about our faith, the thing at root that we think about is not only Christ sacrificing himself on our behalf but it’s also the golden rule, you know?

Treat others the way you’d want to be treated.

And I think that’s what we try to impart to our kids.

And that’s what motivates me as president.”

Faith motivates many LGBTQ people and our allies in our ongoing struggle for equality.

Let’s not cede all the talk of religion to the religious right, when many people of faith see things differently.

Guthrie Graves-Fitzsimmons is a fellow with the Faith and Progressive Policy Initiative at the Center for American Progress.

Termin8tor » 01 Mar 2020 10:47 am » wrote:

Misty » 01 Mar 2020 10:38 am » wrote:I'm good with this except for Labor.
What a great cabinet that would be.
Not like the collection of misfits that are our current Cabinet heads.

Gosh, you deny that you're a Democrat, then you fawn over a collection of mostly extreme leftists.
If you're not a Democrat, what are you?

nuckin futz » 01 Mar 2020 3:22 pm » wrote:This is a MISTY SPECIAL!

crimsongulf » 01 Mar 2020 8:42 pm » wrote:Beautiful early spring day at the marina.

Flarvis » 01 Mar 2020 8:58 pm » wrote:my god...can't even count 170k votes in 2 weeks.and we're going to listen to you people??

i've only listened to successful people all my life.try it

Termin8tor » 02 Mar 2020 8:07 am » wrote:Now that your lies have been exposed, you abandoned your other Fake Reality thread in which you spread Official Democrat Talking Point Lies about Trump's handling of the Corona virus.

Termin8tor » 02 Mar 2020 8:07 am » wrote:And the guffaw, "paper of record" carried a Fake News story.

In an editorial Saturday, the NYTimes also reiterated its debunked claim that Trump has “muzzled” Fauci.

Yet, at Saturday’s 2 p.m. press conference — hours before the Times’ deadline — Fauci emphatically denied the claim.

“I have never been muzzled, ever, and I’ve been doing this since the administration of Ronald Reagan,” Fauci said. “I’m not being muzzled by this administration. That was a real misrepresentation of what happened.”

What shoddy journalism to publish such an incendiary, anonymously sourced claim, without at least including Fauci’s denial.
https://nypost.com/2020/03/01/criticism ... ng-devine/

Fauci's public remarks have been at odds with the president.

Fauci's public remarks on the novel coronavirus in recent days have struck a markedly different tone from those delivered by Trump, who has played down the likely impact of the illness COVID-19 and is reportedly concerned that negative messages from public officials will spook financial markets.

In an interview with CNBC, Fauci warned that travel restrictions, such as those introduced by the Trump administration for some visitors from China, would become "irrelevant" if the coronavirus became a pandemic because "you can't keep out the entire world."

He also told CNN last week that the world was on the brink of a coronavirus pandemic.

Trump on Wednesday said the US was "rapidly developing a vaccine" for the coronavirus and "will essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner."

But in an interview with Fox News, Fauci had said the process of developing a vaccine could take up to a year and a half.

"Even though we are going as fast as you possibly can, it's still going to take a good year, year and a half to see if we have a vaccine that works," he said.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronav ... ion-2020-2

NIH official canceled on five Sunday talk shows after Pence's office 'took over'

Rep. John Garamendi (D-Calif.) on Friday said the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases was told to "stand down" and not appear on five Sunday morning talk shows to discuss the coronavirus.

Garamendi told MSNBC's Hallie Jackson that Anthony Fauci was scheduled to do all five major Sunday talk shows, but says Fauci canceled the appearances after Vice President Pence took over the administration's response to the disease.

"I can repeat what he said, he said, 'I was not muzzled.

However, I was to go on the Sunday talk shows five of them.

The vice president’s office then took over the control of this situation, and told me to stand down, not to do those shows,'" Garamendi said, quoting Fauci.

Termin8tor » 02 Mar 2020 12:49 pm » wrote:

Misty » 02 Mar 2020 11:51 am » wrote:Here ya go Precious.
NIH official canceled on five Sunday talk shows after Pence's office 'took over'

Fauci addressed that in the press conference and said it was a routine meeting to organize how to deal with the virus.
Wow, a delay for a few days. Definitely an impeachable acts, right psycho?
And not that you care what the actual facts are, he vociferously denied he had been muzzled.

Termin8tor » 02 Mar 2020 12:47 pm » wrote:

Misty » 02 Mar 2020 11:51 am » wrote:I don't want to hear a word from you about sources or shoddy journalism.
Your regular sources are wingnut websites that post all kinds of FAKE News, conspiracy theories and hoaxes all the time.

What a crock of ****.
Here are facts, F-A-C-T-S, that you have censored repeatedly and threatened to suspend me if I repeat them.
Yadda, yadda, yadda.......