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solon » 03 Mar 2020 1:27 pm » wrote:You are a LIAR you are too STUPID to know what a Marxist is. You just keep telling whatever LIE you are told to spew you GUTLESS COWARD and TRAITOR. No Democratic Candidate will LIE anywhere NEAR as much as Trump is anywhere NEAR as STUPID and incompetent as Trump nor as LAZY as Trump. Those are plain FACTS

So much for your claim you're a moderate liberal. Like almost everything you write, that was a lie.

So YOU say but since I have PROVEN you are a LIAR more than a DOZEN TIMES and since you are a TRAITOR the LIES you tell mean literally NOTHING no rational HUMAN takes you seriously TRAITOR
This is the babbling lunatic little Miss Marxist sees as an ally.

Talk about desperation. :rofl: :rofl:
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Termin8tor » 03 Mar 2020 1:29 pm » wrote:
This is the babbling lunatic little Miss Marxist sees as an ally.

Talk about desperation. :
You cal me NAMES but what you NEVER do is ADDRESS THE FACTS or the arguments YOU ARE A LIAR flat out. YOU ARE A TRAITOR that is also a FACT. I PROVE you are a LIAR and you run away from the FACTS every time like the GUTLESS COWARD you are. You KNOW you are too STUPID to try to match me in any debate you KNOW you are a LIAR you just dont CARE like when I SHOWED you your talking point ORIGINATED From Russian Military Intelligence and you just kept SPEWINg it because you are a TRAITOR. You keep spewing the EXACT SAME LIES word for word and I keep PROVING you are a LIAR so you get BUTTHURT then try to denigrate me indirectly without EVER ADDRESSING the facts or point because you are a GUTLESS COWARD and tha tis what GUTLESS COWARDS DO

Talk about STUPIDITY TRAITOR and you EMBODY the concept
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Termin8tor » 03 Mar 2020 1:18 pm » wrote:
Misty » 03 Mar 2020 11:49 am » wrote:Bernie and Sniffles are two sides of the same coin.
Let's take a closer look at that.

Trump advocates Free Markets, the Constitution and generally conservative values. He wants the federal government to have less power and Americans to have more freedom.
That makes Trump a mainstream American.
Bernie wants almost the exact opposite. He's a Communist sympathizing Marxist-leftist lunatic.
Is that what you meant?
They both ran as or are running as economic populists who say that the working class is getting a raw deal, except Bernie actually believes that.

Sniffles doesn't give a **** about the working class.
He sold them that bill of goods to get their vote, and then gave huge tax cuts to the rich.

They both rail against the establishment of the party they ran in or are running in.
Trump is not a Republican and Sanders is not a Democrat.

And they both have cult like followers who are angry and vicious to people who do not agree with them.

How the **** can you say that Trump advocates the Constitution and Conservative values?

He has probably never even read the Constitution.
He thinks Article Two gives him the right to do whatever the **** he wants.
And he sure as hell doesn't believe that Congress is a co-equal branch of government.

Since when is it a Conservative value to raw dog porn stars and Playboy models right after your wife gave birth to your child?

Trump a mainstream American?
You're a funny little man.
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Misty » 03 Mar 2020 1:19 pm » wrote: I agree with that.

I'm in the same boat.
I also do not collect SS.

I don't know how anyone can live on SS alone.

The only thing that bothers me about that, is why should the rich get free college?
I think it should be more affordable for sure and based on income.

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The rich will not be happy until we have to pay SOMEONE a nickel for every BREATH we take
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Termin8tor » 03 Mar 2020 1:29 pm » wrote:
solon » 03 Mar 2020 1:27 pm » wrote:You are a LIAR you are too STUPID to know what a Marxist is. You just keep telling whatever LIE you are told to spew you GUTLESS COWARD and TRAITOR. No Democratic Candidate will LIE anywhere NEAR as much as Trump is anywhere NEAR as STUPID and incompetent as Trump nor as LAZY as Trump. Those are plain FACTS
So much for your claim you're a moderate liberal. Like almost everything you write, that was a lie.
So YOU say but since I have PROVEN you are a LIAR more than a DOZEN TIMES and since you are a TRAITOR the LIES you tell mean literally NOTHING no rational HUMAN takes you seriously TRAITOR
This is the babbling lunatic little Miss Marxist sees as an ally.
Talk about desperation. :rofl: :rofl:
**** you, you gaping asshole.
Nobody cares what you think about anything you irrelevant piece of ****.
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I am predicting that Biden picks Klobachur as a running mate and should he be elected he will assign Petey some insignificant cabinet post.

also...you can bet your sweet *** that Obama had a finger in those FUIQ's immediately before super Tuesday.
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Termin8tor » 03 Mar 2020 1:27 pm » wrote:
Misty » 03 Mar 2020 1:19 pm » wrote:
solon » 03 Mar 2020 1:03 pm » wrote:I want to see REAL universal healthcare like the rest of the industrial world has. People should not DIE from being poor nor go bankrupt because of an illness.
I agree with that.
That is a radical left position that completely conflicts with the values expressed in the Constitution. It goes 180 degrees against the philosophy of limited government.
We don't have one single right that obligates others to pay for anything we receive.
I have always said that healthcare should be affordable.
I have never said it should be free.
Nothing is free.

That said, if people are too poor to afford health care, we need to take care of them.

Should we just let a bunch of sick people run around infecting others, or let them suffer and die just because they are poor?

In 11 years you have refused to say what kind of healthcare coverage you have.
I would bet serious money that it's some kind of a government program, which is why you won't say.

You don't seem to have any kind of a job, so employer provided healthcare is not an option.

So what is it Precious?
Termin8tor » 03 Mar 2020 1:27 pm » wrote:Your claim that you're a moderate liberal is a lie, like almost everything you write.
Show me one post where I have ever referred to myself as a MODERATE Liberal you **** degenerate liar.
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crimsongulf » 03 Mar 2020 1:55 pm » wrote:I am predicting that Biden picks Klobachur as a running mate and should he be elected he will assign Petey some insignificant cabinet post.
I'm not sure he picks her.
Probably picks a woman though.
crimsongulf » 03 Mar 2020 1:55 pm » wrote:also...you can bet your sweet *** that Obama had a finger in those FUIQ's immediately before super Tuesday.
Yeah, that's called politics.

I think Biden has a tough time today.
A lot of early voting already took place when his campaign was declared dead.
Plus, he didn't have enough money to advertise very much in the Super Tuesday states.
He needs a giant voter turnout today.
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That is a radical left position that completely conflicts with the values expressed in the Constitution. It goes 180 degrees against the philosophy of limited government.

This is an outright LIE by someone too STUPID to know what he is talking about. FIRST of all everyone pays taxes so paying taxes for healthcare is perfectly constitutional as MEDICARE all by itself proves. That has GONE to the SC as moron conservatives thought they could get judges to change the LAW and it was upheld

Helvering v. Davis, 301 U.S. 619 (1937), was a decision by the United States Supreme Court, which held that Social Security was constitutionally permissible as an exercise of the federal power to spend for the general welfare, and did not contravene the 10th Amendment.[1] The Court's 7–2 decision defended the constitutionality of the Social Security Act of 1935, requiring only that welfare spending be for the common benefit as distinguished from some mere local purpose. It affirmed a District Court decree that held that the tax upon employees was not properly at issue, and that the tax upon employers was constitutional.

As usual BRAINWASHED MORON H8er doesn't know what he is talking about

We don't have one single right that obligates others to pay for anything we receive.

Really? Like police protection or military protection or service by the FIRE DEPT or well it is obvious that once again H8er is FULL OF ****. He NEVER knows what he is talking about and like most Treason Monkeys just SAYS anything that would conform to the delusional fantasies he has made up in his head. Article 1 Section 8 of the constitution says that Congress has the right to LEVY TAXES to provide for the GENERAL WELLFARE it is impossible to make the argument that HEALTHCARE is not part of the General Wellfare.

TerminalH8er is a BRAINWASHED MORON
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As usual when I make a SUBSTANTIAL FACTUAL rebuttal of TermialH8ers LIES he runs away CRYING like the GUTLESS COWARD he is. He KNOWS he is FAR TOO STUPID to EVER address the arguments or FACTS
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Misty » 03 Mar 2020 2:03 pm » wrote: I'm not sure he picks her.
Probably picks a woman though.

Yeah, that's called politics.

I think Biden has a tough time today.
A lot of early voting already took place when his campaign was declared dead.
Plus, he didn't have enough money to advertise very much in the Super Tuesday states.
He needs a giant voter turnout today.
I agree, but **** Bernie will not lock it up like could have happened before the dropouts. In the WSJ this morning big traditional money will be getting behind Biden now. should he win, VP is going to be critical because I don't think he will make it two years.

I said at the very beginning that Biden is the only one that has a chance to win and he still has a good chance if he doesn't cave to the **** crazy wing and pick a socialist idiot as a running mate.
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I will just DELETE most of your IGNORANT LIES and propaganda since showing you the FACTS is useless you GUTLESS COWARD

Your position is radical left and antithetical to the principles the country was founded on.

You are a LIAR. I already showed you that and like the GUTLESS COWARD you are you just run away. The PREAMBLE to the constitution says we should promote the general wellfare Article 1 section 8 says Congress has the RIGHT to levy taxes to PROVIDE for the General wellfare and what that means is a SOCIETAL DECISION not YOURS we would have to be insane to take advise from anyone as STUPID and BRAINWASHED as you and I probably put out more in TIPS than you pay in taxes PARASITE so how we spend out tax dollars is at LEAST as much my decision as yours

Also we are talking about universal healthcare paid for by taxes. The SUPREME COURT already RULED on the constitutionality of that when ruling on Medicare

Helvering v. Davis, 301 U.S. 619 (1937), was a decision by the United States Supreme Court, which held that Social Security was constitutionally permissible as an exercise of the federal power to spend for the general welfare, and did not contravene the 10th Amendment.[1] The Court's 7–2 decision defended the constitutionality of the Social Security Act of 1935, requiring only that welfare spending be for the common benefit as distinguished from some mere local purpose. It affirmed a District Court decree that held that the tax upon employees was not properly at issue, and that the tax upon employers was constitutional.

I already showed you this and like you ALWAYS DO when I prove you are a LIAR and a BRAINWASHED MORON you ran away from the FACTS like the GUTLESS COWARD you are

You are a LIAR who never knows what you are talking about TRAITOR

ADDRESS the FACTS or STFU you GUTLESS COWARD and TRAITOR
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Termin8tor » 03 Mar 2020 3:23 pm » wrote:
Misty » 03 Mar 2020 1:40 pm » wrote:Trump is not a Republican and Sanders is not a Democrat.
Trump absolutely is a Republican, but holds the Republican Establishment in contempt and wants to dis-empower them.
Trump registered as a Republican in Manhattan in 1987 and since that time has changed his party affiliation five times.

In 1999, Trump changed his party affiliation to the Independence Party of New York.

In August 2001, Trump changed his party affiliation to Democratic.

In September 2009, Trump changed his party affiliation back to the Republican Party.

In December 2011, Trump changed to "no party affiliation" (independent).

In April 2012, Trump again returned to the Republican Party.

In a 2004 interview, Trump told CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat," explaining: "It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans.

Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats.

But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans.

But we've had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans."

In a July 2015 interview, Trump said that he has a broad range of political positions and that "I identify with some things as a Democrat."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politic ... nald_Trump
Sam Nunberg was one of Sniffles' earliest advisers.
Nunberg became convinced that a candidate who could blend Ross Perot’s billionaire populism with a hard-line stance on undocumented immigrants could capture the Republican presidential nomination.

And that's exactly what Trump did, and why he was able to take over the Republican party.

Nunberg advised Sniffles to listen to Mark Levin's show, so much of what Sniffles said during his campaign was just him parroting Mark Levin.

It was all a **** act, and you bought it.
You were conned and you're too stupid to even realize it.
In the early to middle part of the previous decade, Trump’s proto-political operation was essentially a two-man team—there was Roger Stone, now a felon, and there was Stone’s protégé, Sam Nunberg.

One of Nunberg’s self-appointed tasks was to help Trump understand what the masses on the right really wanted.

And one way he did that was by listening to Mark Levin’s increasingly popular radio show.

The people who were tuning in most intently to Levin, Nunberg thought, were the people most likely to vote for Trump if he launched an actual bid.

“Donald Trump,” Nunberg told me, meaning his candidacy, meaning his victory, “would never have happened without Mark Levin.”

Nunberg’s frequent emails to Trump, sent via an assistant in Trump’s office and which have not been reported on before, were accounts of the many grievances that animated Levin and his listeners.

Union members resented union leaders.

Republican rank and file loathed Republican elites.

The Tea Party, in the estimation of Levin and his listeners, didn’t start as a reaction to the liberal outrages of President Barack Obama—it started as a reaction to what they viewed as the inconsistently hard-line conservative policies of President George W. Bush.

Amnesty for immigrants, for instance? An absolute no-go.

Trump, Nunberg stressed when we talked, didn’t want to be told what to say, but Nunberg nonetheless made his pitch for him as an insurgent outsider: “This is all marketing and you’re a great product … in a new type of market,” he said he told Trump.

“Help me help you sell gold to these people that normally buy gold.”
Sniffles also tapped into the racist portion of the Republican party by becoming a Birther.
And Trump in 2011 seized on what people, some people—misguided, bigoted or both—thought about the country’s first black president.

The birtherism campaign he began to wage was the distillation of his scattershot but resolute education as the kibitzer, the gossip hound, the insurgent outsider, the nascent politician, the feeder off the fever swamps. The follower.

“I’m starting to wonder myself whether or not he was born in this country,” he said on Fox News in March of that year.

“He doesn’t have a birth certificate,” he told talker Laura Ingraham two days later. “Somebody told me …”

“A lot of people do not think it was an authentic certificate,” he said on CNN in 2012, long after the White House released Obama’s “long form” birth certificate.

“Was it a birth certificate? You tell me,” he told ABC News in 2013.
“Some people say that was not his birth certificate.”

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... eal-096841
And a man who probably never set foot in a church or cracked open a Bible, managed to convince Evangelicals that he was some kind of a religious icon.
:rofl:
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Termin8tor » 03 Mar 2020 3:31 pm » wrote:
Misty » 03 Mar 2020 1:56 pm » wrote:Should we just let a bunch of sick people run around infecting others, or let them suffer and die just because they are poor?
There are countless charities.....yadda, yadda, yadda.....
Charities.......
:rofl:
Typical wingnut ****.
We've always had charities, yet millions have gone without healthcare.
Charities can't do what the government can do.
Termin8tor » 03 Mar 2020 3:31 pm » wrote:
Misty » 03 Mar 2020 1:56 pm » wrote:In 11 years you have refused to say what kind of healthcare coverage you have.
I would bet serious money that it's some kind of a government program, which is why you won't say.
You don't seem to have any kind of a job, so employer provided healthcare is not an option.
So what is it Precious?
I don't share information with vindictive psychopaths. :\
You didn't deny it though, did you?
So free stuff for you, but everyone else can go **** themselves.
Greedy bastard.
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Misty » 03 Mar 2020 4:16 pm » wrote:If you want to help people, give your own money and get your hand out of others' pockets.
Charities....... :rofl:

Typical wingnut ****.
We've always had charities, yet millions have gone without healthcare.
Charities can't do what the government can do.
Not when the government is taking approx. $1 trillion a year out of the economy, and making people dependent on government programs in the process.

Not to mention that lowers Americans incomes by keeping taxes high. If Americans were earning more and keeping more of their own money, they could buy their own health insurances.

And of course contrary to Obama's lie that insurance rates would fall, rates rose dramatically, compounding the problem.

And of course no response to this.

I don't share information with vindictive psychopaths. :\

You didn't deny it though, did you?
So free stuff for you, but everyone else can go **** themselves.
Greedy bastard.
Shrieks the psychopath. :loco:

You can't debate honestly, so you lie and smear.
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Termin8tor » 03 Mar 2020 3:23 pm » wrote:Gosh, not one single word about Bernie being a Communist sympathizing Marxist-leftist lunatic, who you say you'll vote for. :loco:
You voted for a con-artist, fraud, grifter, carnival barking snake oil salesman.
So don't you dare talk to me about who I vote for.
I don't want to vote for Bernie, but I will if I have to.
I would vote for a **** tree stump over Sniffles.

We can't have another four years of this ****.
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Termin8tor » 03 Mar 2020 6:03 pm » wrote:You're too stupid to realize that voting for someone who might not be genuinely religious but acts in its defense consistently is far, far, FAR better than an honest anti-religion liberal-leftist who almost always attempts to violate religious freedom and who espouses values that go against traditional Judeo-Christian values.
There are huge stakes in who wins on that. Transforming the Supreme Court is just one of the many, many pro-religion things Trump will accomplish.

But I think Trump is sincere; didn't at first.
And you call me stupid.
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Termin8tor » 03 Mar 2020 5:49 pm » wrote:
Misty » 03 Mar 2020 4:05 pm » wrote:Sniffles also tapped into the racist portion of the Republican party by becoming a Birther.
Actually it was Hillary Clinton who was the first Birther. I don't recall you ever calling her a racist.
No, I never called her a racist because like most things you say, that is a bald faced lie.
You believe every filthy lie that the Liar-In-Chief tells you.
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Donald Trump repeated his debunked claim that Hillary Clinton started the rumors questioning whether President Barack Obama was born in the United States.

"Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy," Trump said in a 30-minute press conference Sept. 16, 2016. "I finished it."

Trump has repeatedly claimed that Clinton began the whole issue in the first place.

Trump said "Hillary is a birther" in February 2015 at CPAC, tweeted that "she was all in" in September 2015, and said "she brought it up years before it was brought up by me" on CNN in May 2016.

The morning of his press conference, Trump brought it up again on Fox Business.

PolitiFact and our friends at FactCheck.org and the Washington Post Fact-Checker have debunked this zombie claim multiple times.

There is no evidence that Clinton or her 2008 campaign ever floated the theory.

While Clinton supporters circulated the allegations the last time she ran for president, they had no ties to either the candidate or her staff.

The Sept. 15 Trump campaign statement linked to a 2007 strategy memo published in the Atlantic from former Clinton aide Mark Penn that advises pointing out Obama’s "lack of American roots."

While Penn suggests Clinton "own ‘American’ in our programs," that’s not the same thing as suggesting Clinton question Obama’s citizenship or birthplace.

The memo never advises that.

It also explicitly states, "We are never going to say anything about his background."

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... -clinton-/
When are you going to stop lying?
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Termin8tor » 03 Mar 2020 5:58 pm » wrote:
Misty » 03 Mar 2020 4:05 pm » wrote:And a man who probably never set foot in a church or cracked open a Bible, managed to convince Evangelicals that he was some kind of a religious icon. :rofl:
He is the most pro-life president ever, and he's been extremely strong on religious liberty.
Don't you get it yet?
It's a **** act.
There are years worth of interviews he did on Howard Stern's radio show.
If you want to know who he really is, you should listen to some of them.

He was ALWAYS pro-choice.
When Donald Trump learned that then-girlfriend Marla Maples was pregnant with Tiffany, Trump said, "Excuse me, what happened?" and "Oh, great"—the latest bombshell revelation contained in 15 hours of tapes from The Howard Stern Show released this week to Newsweek and Factba.se.

"I'm glad it happened. I have a great little daughter, Tiffany," Trump told his pal Stern in the 2004 interview.

"But, you know, at the time it was like, 'Excuse me, what happened?'

And then I said, 'Well, what are we going to do about this?'

[Marla] said, 'Are you serious? It's the most beautiful day of our lives.' I said, 'Oh, great.'"

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