Liberal Forum

WillFranklin » 04 Mar 2020 5:16 am » wrote: I am for Mother Government paying for their education throughout if they are poor American kids with the expressed desire to be a doctor.

Cannonpointer » 04 Mar 2020 3:03 pm » wrote: Yeah, here's the thing: I am 100% in favor of a socialized higher education system. 100%.

But you girls n the left need to understand and embrace that there will be - absolutely must be - rigorous standards, against which being born with a melanin abundance has no merit whatsoever. If you look at the wonderful and abundant examples available of socialized higher education, you will find that they all feature annual board exams which are extremely rigorous and designed to weed out all but the competent - all but those possessed of sufficient native intelligence and drive to succeed that they actually BELONG at university, actually bring excellence to the institution.

So you can stop jacking off to racial quotas, gender quotas, NON-gender quotas, victims-of-any-and-all-stripes quotas - basically, QUOTAS. University will be, again at last, for the educable.

Can you live with THAT? Because THAT is what you call for, when you call for socialized education. It ain't gonna be day care, anymore.

And not to strip the skunk cabbage of its charm, but rigorous, double blind studies have shown conclusively (albeit unpopularly, to the shrieks of the genderatti) that race plays a major role in IQ, and IQ plays a major role if educability. The net effect of this is that tomorrow's bourgeoisie in an America with socialized higher education will inexorably, inevitably be composed of MORE, not LESS, caucasian, Asian and jewish males. And FOR this fact, I apologize on behalf of Jesus, who made this joint, but there you **** well have it, son. Like it, don't like it - that's the hard, cold truth of the matter.

Termin8tor » 04 Mar 2020 1:39 pm » wrote:

Misty » 04 Mar 2020 1:09 pm » wrote:We are in the middle of a **** pandemic and the primary elections, yet all you keep yammering about is the 2016 election, and now even going back to the 2008 election.
I don't want to spend all of my time here rehashing the past.
I would actually like to discuss the things that are happening today, but for some reason you don't want to talk about any of that.
I will no longer respond to anything that happened in the past.
It goes straight to the PG.

Oh, I see. The only person who can discuss the past is the psychopath whose thread it is.
If you didn't have double standards, you wouldn't have any standards at all.

Termin8tor » 04 Mar 2020 1:48 pm » wrote:

Misty » 04 Mar 2020 1:09 pm » wrote:We are in the middle of a **** pandemic .....

There is no pandemic in the US.

Termin8tor » 04 Mar 2020 1:48 pm » wrote:Didn't you attack and insult me for opinion that the death rate from Corona would fall?

Misty » 04 Mar 2020 4:22 pm » wrote: And you call me stupid.
A pandemic is the worldwide spread of a new disease you stupid jackass.
Is the United States part of the world or not you **** moron?

Hasn't it risen to 3% now?

Sorry.....3.4%.

The latest coronavirus death rate is 3.4% — higher than earlier figures.

WillFranklin » 04 Mar 2020 3:15 pm » wrote: The ones who try and pass the standards and have the economic need should be the priority for funding.

Cannonpointer » 04 Mar 2020 4:35 pm » wrote: There should simply be public education, merit based and rigorous.

Helping this one at the expense of that one, while charmingly racist and therefore appealing to the left, is no way to run a country or an education system.

And while we are on the topic, we've had affirmative action for 3 generations. When do the proponents of affirmative action propose to take stock and update us on its effectiveness? Have you heard any plans to do so? Also, how many more generations do you, personally, support us engaging in this purportedly helpful and sanguine activity?

WillFranklin » 04 Mar 2020 4:43 pm » wrote:
What are the results? I need to see them.

I know this is whee you tell me to do the leg work because you are in high heels and a thong.

Termin8tor » 04 Mar 2020 1:48 pm » wrote:
There is no pandemic in the US.

As the psychopath fabricates yet another excuse to censor my posts.

Didn't you attack and insult me for opinion that the death rate from Corona would fall?
Didn't you censor my post and several other like it?

ITS ONLY DEADLY WHEN YOU'RE **** DEAD! DUHHHHHHH

Termin8tor » 04 Mar 2020 4:46 pm » wrote:

Misty » 04 Mar 2020 4:22 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 04 Mar 2020 1:48 pm » wrote:There is no pandemic in the US.

And you call me stupid.
A pandemic is the worldwide spread of a new disease you stupid jackass.
Is the United States part of the world or not you **** moron?

Stupid, stupid jackass...**** moron..... Gosh, I'm sure you're correct.
Not.

pan·dem·ic /panˈdemik/ (of a disease) prevalent over a whole country or the world.

A doctor on the front lines of battling coronavirus in the US said this week that the rapid spread of the deadly bug has risen to the level of an “outbreak” — and possibly even a “pandemic.”

Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and a member of the White House’s coronavirus task force, told NBC Nightly News’ Richard Engel Monday that the illness — which has infected 100 people, killing six in the US — is “an evolving situation.”

“We’re dealing with clearly an emerging infectious disease that is now reached outbreak proportions and likely pandemic proportions,” he said.

“If you look at, you know, by multiple definitions of what a pandemic is, the fact is this is multiple sustained transmissions of a highly infectious agent in multiple regions of the globe.”

https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/top-us-do ... -pandemic/

In rare rebuke, Chief Justice Roberts slams Schumer for 'threatening' comments.

Chief Justice John Roberts publicly chastised Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer on Wednesday over comments Schumer made outside the Supreme Court as the justices were hearing a case on abortion rights.

Schumer, D-N.Y., suggested that President Donald Trump's court appointees, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh, "won't know what hit" them if they vote to uphold abortion restrictions.

Matt Gaetz wears gas mask on House floor during vote on bill to fight coronavirus.

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) on Wednesday wore a gas mask on the House floor during a vote on an emergency funding bill to fight the spread of the novel coronavirus known as COVID-19.

“Reviewing the coronavirus supplemental appropriation and preparing to go vote,” Gaetz tweeted ahead of the vote, including a photo of himself wearing the mask.

Trump Blames Obama Decision for Coronavirus Test Kit Shortage

President Donald Trump blamed his predecessor for a nationwide shortage of test kits for the novel coronavirus and claimed to have ended regulations put in place by Barack Obama’s administration that limited the development of the diagnostic tools.

“The Obama administration made a decision on testing that turned out to be very detrimental to what we’re doing and we undid that decision a few days ago so that the testing can take place in a much more accurate and rapid fashion,” Trump said at a meeting on Wednesday at the White House to discuss the coronavirus outbreak with airline executives.

He added: “That was a decision we disagreed with -- I don’t think we would have made it -- but for some reason it was made but we’ve undone that decision.”

The Trump administration has come under criticism for the test-kit shortage, which local public health officials have said hampers their ability to survey the U.S. population for the virus.

San Francisco’s Mayor London Breed called the shortage of kits “a national disgrace” in a letter to Vice President Mike Pence on Tuesday.

While Trump tried to pin blame on Obama, the initial responsibility for the shortage appears to lie with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Rather than adopt a test used overseas and recommended by the World Health Organization, the CDC chose to develop and distribute its own, according to reporting by ProPublica.

That test didn’t work, forcing a scramble by the Trump administration for alternatives.

On Saturday, the FDA issued a policy allowing independent labs to begin using coronavirus tests they develop even before the health agency signs off on what’s called an Emergency Use Authorization.

Shortly before Trump was inaugurated, the Obama administration issued guidance on Emergency Use Authorizations, which date to a 2004 law passed after the U.S. anthrax attacks.

Asked to explain his remarks, Trump referred the question to Pence and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Robert Redfield.

Pence said that because of the FDA policy issued Saturday -- which he and Redfield described as a Trump order -- states can now conduct coronavirus testing in state and university laboratories.

Redfield said that private laboratories used to be able to develop clinical tests and apply them, but “in the previous administration that became regulated.

For someone to do that they had to file with the FDA.”

Thanks to the new FDA policy, he said, “university labs and others can be fully engaged in developing diagnostics.”

“It was something we had to do and we did it very quickly,” Trump said.

He said “many, many more sites” and “many, many more people” will be able to be tested.

“You couldn’t have that under the Obama rule and we ended that rule very quickly,” he said.

Experts on lab testing said they were unaware of any Obama-era rule that would have hindered the administration from authorizing lab-developed tests for the coronavirus in an emergency.

The FDA has had the authority to authorize tests for emergency use under the 2004 law, signed by President George W. Bush, aimed at advancing medical countermeasures for biological weapons.

“We cannot find a basis for this,” said Peter Kyriacopoulos, chief policy officer for the Association of Public Health Laboratories, which represents state and local laboratories.

“We are not familiar with the rule they are referring to.”

About a decade ago, the FDA grew concerned about what it called “high-risk” lab-developed tests -- products that made exaggerated claims unsupported by evidence or relied on falsified data.

In 2010, the agency said it would begin reviewing its policy of “enforcement discretion” for the tests.

But the review ended in January 2017, days before Trump was inaugurated, without the FDA issuing any new regulations.

The agency published only a “discussion paper” that it said wasn’t enforceable, in addition to the guidance on emergency authorizations.

Republican senators echoed Biden in urging Ukrainian president to reform prosecutor general's office.

A newly unearthed letter from 2016 shows that Republican senators pushed for reforms to Ukraine's prosecutor general's office and judiciary, echoing calls then-Vice President Joe Biden made at the time.

CNN's KFile found a February 2016 bipartisan letter signed by several Republican senators that urged then-Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to "press ahead with urgent reforms to the Prosecutor General's office and judiciary."

The letter shows that addressing corruption in Ukraine's Prosecutor General's office had bipartisan support in the US and further undercuts a baseless attack made by President Donald Trump and his allies that Biden pressured the Ukrainian government to fire then Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin to stop investigations into a Ukrainian natural gas company that his son, Hunter Biden, sat on the board of.

There is no evidence of wrongdoing by either Joe or Hunter Biden, nor is it clear whether Hunter was under investigation at all.

Trump disputes WHO's 3.4 percent global death rate for coronavirus.

President Trump on Wednesday disputed the death rate of the coronavirus as reported by the World Health Organization (WHO), calling the 3.4 percent figure “really a false number.”

"I think the 3.4 percent is really a false number,” Trump told Fox News’s Sean Hannity in a phone interview Wednesday evening when asked for his reaction to the death rate reported earlier this week.

“Now, this is just a hunch, but based on a lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this."

“A lot of people will have this and it's very mild.

They'll get better very rapidly. They don't even see a doctor. They don't even call a doctor.

You never hear about those people,” Trump continued, asserting that those cases could not be included in the overall count of people who have contracted the coronavirus, which he at one point incorrectly identified as the “corona flu” before correcting himself.

“Personally, I think the number is way under 1 percent,” Trump continued.

WHO officials reported the 3.4 percent death rate among cases of the novel coronavirus worldwide during a press briefing Tuesday — a figure that is higher than previously thought. Two percent had been a figure used earlier.

"Globally, about 3.4 percent of reported COVID-19 cases have died.

By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1 percent of those infected," WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said at a press briefing on Tuesday.

The mortality rates from coronavirus have varied from country to country, with South Korea, as one example, showing a much lower mortality rate — something that has been credited to the increased testing in that country.

Older people also have a much higher mortality rate than younger people.

One reason the mortality rate could come down is that many people with coronavirus have not been diagnosed.

Patients with considerably mild symptoms, for instance, may not seek treatment for the virus, meaning those cases would go undetected.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, a medical expert and member of the White House coronavirus task force, has said the true figure could be closer to 1 percent.

During the Fox News interview Wednesday night, Trump also at one point suggested that people would get better from the virus while going to work.

“If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by sitting around and even going to work – some of them go to work – but they get better, and then when you do have a death like you had in the state of Washington like you had one in California, I believe you had one in New York, now all of a sudden it seems like 3 or 4 percent which is a very high number, as opposed to … a fraction of 1 percent,” Trump told Hannity.

“They don’t know about the easy cases because the easy cases don’t go to the hospital, they don’t report to doctors or the hospital in many cases,” the president continued.

Trump has sought to minimize the risk of the virus, at times contradicting health experts in a way that has prompted scrutiny.

For instance, Trump said last week that he didn’t believe the spread of the virus in the United States will be inevitable despite medical officials pointing to it as a likelihood.

The president on Monday also suggested a vaccine for the virus could be produced in “a few months,” an assertion that health officials quickly disputed by saying that it would take at least a year or a year and a half to produce a vaccine.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... oronavirus

Termin8tor » 05 Mar 2020 6:42 am » wrote:

Misty » 04 Mar 2020 8:50 pm » wrote:So I looked into that link, and what I found was this.
The transcript from a Foreign Relations Committee hearing on Ukraine from 2016.
Ron Johnson was a member of that committee.
Both Biden's name and the fired prosecutor's name (Shokin) came up in that hearing.

Except now we have at least 500 pages of evidence about Ukrainian corruption that Guliani managed to get and to give to the Justice Dept.

Termin8tor » 05 Mar 2020 6:50 am » wrote:There is no pandemic in the US, not even close.
And no mention of the world in Merriam Webster's definition either, contrary to your claim.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and a leading expert on coronavirus, says the disease is now at "outbreak," and even "likely pandemic proportions."

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/dr-fa ... 9827013761

Trump to Hannity: I’ll Bring Up Hunter ‘All the Time’ Against Biden

A day after former Vice President Joe Biden scored a series of dramatic primary victories on Super Tuesday to become the Democratic presidential frontrunner, President Donald Trump said the quiet part out loud during an interview with sycophantic Fox News host Sean Hannity: He’s going to make Biden’s son a central part of his campaign against the ex-veep.

Appearing on Hannity’s primetime show Wednesday night for another rambling friendly phone chat, the president first made sure to praise the Fox host—who’s been described as the White House shadow chief of staff—and other network personalities who’ve shown him sufficient loyalty and obsequiousness.

After getting that out of the way, Trump was asked about Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) suddenly announcing on Wednesday that he’ll be ramping up the Senate Homeland Security Committee’s investigation into Hunter Biden and his employment with Ukrainian gas company Burisma.

Johnson said an interim report would be released within a couple of months.

“It has to be a campaign issue,” Hannity said.

“How do you plan to use it or do you plan to use it?”

Trump, just weeks after his Senate impeachment acquittal over charges that he withheld military aid in order to pressure Ukraine to announce an investigation of a domestic political rival, replied that he would absolutely make Biden’s son a major campaign issue.

Complaining that Democrats in the primary didn’t use the Ukraine scandal against Biden early in the primary, the president asserted that “wouldn’t happen with the Republicans, I can tell you.”

“That will be a major issue in the campaign,” Trump added.

“I will bring that up all the time because I don’t see any way out for them.

I don’t see how they can answer those questions. I hope they can, I’d actually prefer it that they can’t but I don’t believe they will be able to answer those questions.

That was purely corrupt.”

During Johnson’s announcement of the new phase of his investigation, he told reporters that “these are questions that Joe Biden has not adequately answered” and he’d “want these questions satisfactorily answered” if he were a Democratic primary voter.

Kellyanne Conway, meanwhile, initially dodged the question on Fox News earlier in the night, telling Martha MacCallum, “Well, we don’t run investigations here out of the White House like that, the Congress does,” before going on to preview the campaign's attacks on Hunter Biden.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-tel ... inst-biden

Misty » 04 Mar 2020 2:01 pm » wrote:Nobody is buying that crap about Sniffles just being concerned about corruption.
He is the **** King of corruption.
He wanted the announcement of an investigation to use in his campaign, just like he used the fact that Hillary was under investigation for her emails in 2016.
The 'lock her up' chants would have become 'lock him up.'
And they probably still will, if Biden is the nominee, because the Trump sycophants in the Senate will do for Sniffles what Zelensky would not.