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Wow, a Republican somewhere in the country made a bad joke?The Republican Party is a bad joke.

MistyBlue, on 06 December 2011 - 10:35 PM, said:Typical GOP voter suppression tactics. One down, one to go.This is chump change compared to the massive voter fraud Democrats commit every election.Which the Bush Justice Dep't, under orders from Karl Rove, tried very hard to prove for 5 full years, and came up empty.In 5-Year Effort, Scant Evidence of Voter FraudBut don't let that stop you. Just keep repeating the same old tired Republican talking point lies about 'massive voter fraud' committed by Democrats.Jackhole.

Gay rights activist and half sister to Newt Gingrich, Candace Gingrich-Jones says she will not support her Brother if he wins the Republican nomination.RACHEL MADDOW: So, if your brother wins the Republican nomination, you will not be supporting his candidacy? CANDACE GINGRICH-JONES: No, and I don`t think he has any misconception that I might be.VIDEO

Some of the most powerful images of 2011.More to come........

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The GOP Debunks It's Own Voter Fraud MythRepublican National Lawyers Association New Voter Fraud Map Provides Little Evidence Of Voter FraudDecember 12, 2011 Julia Krieger Last Friday, the Republican National Lawyers Association (RNLA) unveiled what they suggest are game-changing numbers on voter fraud, claiming in a press release: "NAACP Has It Wrong: Map Presents Evidence of Nationwide Vote Fraud Convictions & Prosecutions." A subtitle boasts, "46 States Have Charged Individuals With Vote Fraud In The Past Decade." The press release directs people to a website with the RNLA's "evidence."But the grand total of alleged voter fraud cases listed on RNLA's website is drumroll please 311.For perspective, the total number of votes cast in the 2004 presidential election alone was 122,295,345. In 2008, that number was 131,313,820.What's more, the RNLA is dishonestly representing their data when they describe it as "in the past decade": A quick gander at the website's evidence shows citations going as far back as 1997. Although they claim to have evidence of 46 states with voter fraud prosecutions in the last decade, their website only lists 44 states. For two of those 44, there are only examples from the 1990s up to 2000, bringing the state count down to 42. To be clear, that's eight states where they identified no instances of voter fraud in the last decade. Further, the RNLA brags: "The RNLA webpage presents evidence that there were at least seventeen cases involving prosecutions for non-citizen voting in 2005 just in one state: Florida." However, according to the Department of Justice, at least four of the seventeen cases they list were dismissed. Misleading claims like these are nothing new for Republicans, who have spent a great deal of time and energy talking up the specter of voter fraud. But investigations into the matter have invariably concluded that true voter fraud is "extraordinarily rare" much like the data dug up by the RNLA suggests. Yet Republicans routinely introduce legislation purportedly designed to combat voter fraud, even though those measures usually have a greater impact on preventing legally eligible voters from making it to the polls than they do in keeping illegal voters away. Link Edited by MistyBlue, 14 December 2011 - 02:42 PM.

This is chump change compared to the massive voter fraud Democrats commit every election.Which the Bush Justice Dep't, under orders from Karl Rove, tried very hard to prove for 5 full years, and came up empty.In 5-Year Effort, Scant Evidence of Voter FraudBut don't let that stop you. Just keep repeating the same old tired Republican talking point lies about 'massive voter fraud' committed by Democrats.Jackhole. The NYTimes? Why not just cite DNC Propaganda?Oh gosh, what's this? Some minor Democrat functionary committing minor voter fraud?Indiana Democratic Party Head Resigns as Fraud Probe Heats UpBy Eric ShawnPublished December 12, 2011| FoxNews.comThe chairman of the Indiana Democratic Party announced his resignation Monday, as investigators probe allegations of election fraud stemming from the 2008 Democratic presidential primary.Dan Parker, who served for seven years, did not cite the scandal as a reason for his decision. But the uproar over possible fraud in a race for the White House has already claimed the job of one county Democratic Chairman, who sources say was forced out because of the allegations.Numerous signatures on petitions that placed then-candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton on the party's primary ballot were allegedly forged and then certified by the St. Joseph County Voter Registration Office in South Bend.St. Joseph County Prosecutor Mike Dvorak has launched an investigation.Parker, in a statement, said that "after seven years, it is time for a new leader to embrace our past successes and take up our future challenges." He also wrote that "I love the Indiana Democratic Party, and it has been my great honor to serve at its Chair."Benjamin Ray, the Indiana Democratic Party press secretary, told Fox News that the forgery allegations involving the presidential primary petitions were not a factor in Parker's decision to step down."No, absolutely not," Ray said.When the allegations first broke in October, Parker issued a statement that "we continue to support the ongoing investigation to determine how this isolated incident occurred and hold anyone involved accountable."The alleged forgeries have raised the question whether the Obama campaign actually filed the necessary number of signatures, 500 from the county, to get on the state's primary ballot. The 534 signatures that were certified to place Obama's name in contention, were never challenged. 704 signatures were certified for Clinton, according to state elections officials. An estimated 150 of the signatures on both petitions may be fakes, leaving open the possibility that, in at least President Obama's case, the number of legal signatures that were required to get on the ballot was not reached.Several voters told Fox News that they never signed nor gave their names that appeared on the Obama petitions."It's scary," Charity Rorie said, adding that her signature and name, and those of her husband, were faked."It's shocking ... it definitely is illegal..Read more: http://www.foxnews.c.../#ixzz1gpO3o310

The GOP Debunks It's Own Voter Fraud MythMore DNC bulls***.As SCOTUS noted, it's effectively impossible to prosecute voter fraud WITHOUT voter ID laws. That's why even many Democrats are now supporting them, as does 80% of the country.Do laws that require citizens to present valid identification to vote create an undue hardship? Worse, are they racist? Artur Davis used to think so. He represented Alabamas 7th Congressional District from 2003 to 2011 and was an active member of the Congressional Black Caucus. He vigorously opposed voter ID laws.But now he has changed his mind. In a commentary in the Montgomery Advertiser, Mr. Davis says his home state of Alabama did the right thing in passing a voter ID law and admits, I wish I had gotten it right when I was in political office.As a congressman, he says, he took the path of least resistance, opposing voter ID laws without any evidence to justify his stance. He simply lapsed into the rhetoric of various partisans and activists who contend that requiring photo identification to vote is a suppression tactic aimed at thwarting black voter participation.Today, however, Mr. Davis recognizes that the most aggressive voter suppression in the black community is the wholesale manufacture of ballots, at the polls and absentee, in parts of the Black Belt. A region in Alabama known for its dark, rich soil, the Black Belt comprises some of the poorest, predominantly black counties in the state. In 2008, I wrote a case study about a federal voter-fraud prosecution in one of those counties.Greene County is 80 percent black, and the median household income of residents is only just above the poverty line. Incumbent black county officials had stolen elections there for years, perpetrating widespread, systematic voter fraud. The Democratic incumbents were challenged by black Democratic reformers in 1994 who wanted to clean up local government.Voter fraud ran rampant that year. Ultimately, the U.S. Department of Justice won 11 convictions of Greene County miscreants who had cast hundreds of fraudulent votes, often by stealing the absentee ballots of poor voters. Mr. Davis knows that voting the names of the dead, and the nonexistent, and the too-mentally-impaired to function, cancels out the votes of citizens who are exercising their rights because, as he notes in the Montgomery Advertiser, Ive heard the peddlers of these ballots brag about it, Ive been asked to provide the funds for it, and I am confident this has changed at least a few close local election results.http://www.washingto...idea-after-all/

The GOP Debunks It's Own Voter Fraud MythThere's no hope for the hopelessly dishonest.Had voter fraud not put Al Franken into the Senate, Obama could never have Socialized US health care.One of the most brazen cases of voter fraud occurred in a state representative race in Kansas City, Mo., last year. It was a Democratic primary between J.J. Rizzo and Will Royster in a district where the victor was certain to win the general election. Rizzo received about 50 votes illegally cast by citizens of Somalia. The Somalis, who didnt speak English, were coached to vote for Rizzo by an interpreter at the polling place. Rizzo ended up winning by one vote.In another example, an 18-month study by Minnesota Majority found that 341 felons in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area illegally voted in the 2008 election. Compared with the 2.7 million votes cast in the state, 341 seems insignificant. But after the recount of the U.S. Senate race between Norm Coleman and Al Franken, Frankens margin of victory was only 312 votes. The illegal votes cast by felons were not discovered until after the recount, making 341 an awfully significant number.http://www.washingto...URBI_story.html

Rich is obviously mentally ill. If only we had a Siberia...Hmmmm....I was 100% against that "send nutty folks to (N Dakota?)"....until I considered packing off Rich Clam.

Rich is obviously mentally ill. If only we had a Siberia...Hmmmm....I was 100% against that "send nutty folks to (N Dakota?)"....until I considered packing off Rich Clam.Clear reality seems like psychosis to moonbats.How's that roaring Obama Economy going, hmmm? Edited by RichClem, 21 December 2011 - 03:02 PM.

In 5-Year Effort, Scant Evidence of Voter FraudThe NYTimes? Why not just cite DNC Propaganda?I see. So since you cited Fox News in your post.....RichClem: Oh gosh, what's this? Some minor Democrat functionary committing minor voter fraud?Read more: http://www.foxnews.c.../#ixzz1gpO3o310I guess you trust them as a source, right?Bush Justice Department’s war on voter fraud found little evidence of the illegal voting it alleged. Between 2002 and 2006, the DOJ’s efforts resulted in only 86 convictions out of nearly 200 million votes cast, a rate of 0.0000004%. http://www.foxnews.c...ng-voter-fraud/There ya go Puss. Now whatcha got? Edited by MistyBlue, 21 December 2011 - 03:08 PM.

There ya go Puss. Now whatcha got?Nuthin, huh? You were here when I wrote that, and you ran like your *** was on fire.Fox News reported that the Bush administration was unable to prove that in person voter fraud was anything but rare.And a recent study by the Republican National Lawyers Association has also shown that in person voter fraud is extremely rare, and does not warrant the type of legislation that is being pushed by Republican governors and legislatures. Those laws are specifically designed to disenfranchise people who tend to vote for Democrats.Bush Justice Department’s war on voter fraud found little evidence of the illegal voting it alleged. Between 2002 and 2006, the DOJ’s efforts resulted in only 86 convictions out of nearly 200 million votes cast, a rate of 0.0000004%. (Want more?)Texas Attorney General Gregg Abbott, a Republican, launched an investigation in 2005 to uncover what he called an "epidemic" of voter fraud. But reviews of Abbott's investigation two years later yielded no cases of voter impersonation fraud. A Dallas Morning News review in 2008 found the 26 cases prosecuted were all against Democrats, most involved blacks and Hispanics, and typically involved people who helped elderly voters with mail-in ballots, but failed to follow state law by signing their names and addresses on the envelopes. Abbot's investigation was paid for with a $1.4 million Justice Department crime-fighting grant. After a five-year hunt for voter fraud, the Bush administration's Justice Department came up with little widespread fraud, finding mostly cases of people mistakenly filling out voter registration forms or voting when they didn't know they were ineligible, The New York Times reported in 2007. But none of the cases involved a person voting as someone else.http://www.foxnews.c...ng-voter-fraud/Gee, that's just what the NYTimes article I posted said isn't it Puss? You know, the one you were so quick to dismiss?Will you dismiss the Fox article as quickly?Jackhole. Edited by MistyBlue, 21 December 2011 - 11:10 PM.

This one's for you Puss.....The GOP's Payroll Tax Fiasco How did Republicans manage to lose the tax issue to Obama?GOP Senate leader Mitch McConnell famously said a year ago that his main task in the 112th Congress was to make sure that President Obama would not be re-elected. Given how he and House Speaker John Boehner have handled the payroll tax debate, we wonder if they might end up re-electing the President before the 2012 campaign even begins in earnest.The GOP leaders have somehow managed the remarkable feat of being blamed for opposing a one-year extension of a tax holiday that they are surely going to pass. This is no easy double play. Republicans have also achieved the small miracle of letting Mr. Obama position himself as an election-year tax cutter, although he's spent most of his Presidency promoting tax increases and he would hit the economy with one of the largest tax increases ever in 2013. This should be impossible.House Republicans yesterday voted down the Senate's two-month extension of the two-percentage-point payroll tax holiday to 4.2% from 6.2%. They say the short extension makes no economic sense, but then neither does a one-year extension. No employer is going to hire a worker based on such a small and temporary decrease in employment costs, as this year's tax holiday has demonstrated. The entire exercise is political, but Republicans have thoroughly botched the politics.Their first mistake was adopting the President's language that he is proposing a tax cut rather than calling it a temporary tax holiday. People will understand the difference—and discount the benefit. Republicans also failed to put together a unified House and Senate strategy. The House passed a one-year extension last week that included spending cuts to offset the $120 billion or so in lost revenue, such as a one-year freeze on raises for federal employees. Then Mr. McConnell agreed with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on the two-month extension financed by higher fees on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (meaning on mortgage borrowers), among other things. It passed with 89 votes and all but seven Republicans. Senate Republicans say Mr. Boehner had signed off on the two-month extension, but House Members revolted over the weekend and so the Speaker flipped within 24 hours. Mr. Boehner is now demanding that Mr. Reid name conferees for a House-Senate conference on the payroll tax bills. But Mr. Reid and the White House are having too much fun blaming Republicans for "raising taxes on the middle class" as of January 1. Don't be surprised if they stretch this out to the State of the Union, when Mr. Obama will have a national audience to capture the tax issue.If Republicans didn't want to extend the payroll tax cut on the merits, then they should have put together a strategy and the arguments for defeating it and explained why. But if they knew they would eventually pass it, as most of them surely believed, then they had one of two choices. Either pass it quickly and at least take some political credit for it. Or agree on a strategy to get something in return for passing it, which would mean focusing on a couple of popular policies that would put Mr. Obama and Democrats on the political spot. They finally did that last week by attaching a provision that requires Mr. Obama to make a decision on the Keystone XL pipeline within 60 days, and the President grumbled but has agreed to sign it. But now Republicans are drowning out that victory in the sounds of their circular firing squad. Already four GOP Senators have rejected the House position, and the political rout will only get worse.One reason for the revolt of House backbenchers is the accumulated frustration over a year of political disappointment. Their high point was the Paul Ryan budget in the spring that set the terms of debate and forced Mr. Obama to adopt at least the rhetoric of budget reform and spending cuts. But then Messrs. Boehner and McConnell were gulled into going behind closed doors with the President, who dragged out negotiations and later emerged to sandbag them with his blame-the-GOP and soak-the-rich re-election strategy. Any difference between the parties on taxes and spending has been blurred in the interim. After a year of the tea party House, Mr. Obama and Senate Democrats have had to make no major policy concessions beyond extending the Bush tax rates for two years. Mr. Obama is in a stronger re-election position today than he was a year ago, and the chances of Mr. McConnell becoming Majority Leader in 2013 are declining.At this stage, Republicans would do best to cut their losses and find a way to extend the payroll holiday quickly. Then go home and return in January with a united House-Senate strategy that forces Democrats to make specific policy choices that highlight the differences between the parties on spending, taxes and regulation. Wisconsin freshman Senator Ron Johnson has been floating a useful agenda for such a strategy. The alternative is more chaotic retreat and the return of all-Democratic rule.http://online.wsj.co...hp_mostpop_readOuch! That's gotta hurt Puss, coming from the WSJ Op-Ed page.I predict that John Boehner will go down as the worst, most ineffective Speaker in history. Edited by MistyBlue, 21 December 2011 - 11:18 PM.

In today's edition of Outrageous And Unfounded Insults, Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-WI) has decided to question Michelle Obama's body shape.MediaBistro reports that Sensenbrenner was overheard talking on the phone, retelling an incident in which he said about Michelle Obama:"She lectures us on eating right while she has a large posterior herself."The most bothersome issue here is the conflation of two entirely separate matters: the First Lady's (natural) physique and her campaign for healthy eating and physical fitness. Michelle has traveled the country for her "Let's Move!" campaign for over a year, talking about healthy eating, promoting a more user-friendly pyramid graphic, getting stores like Walmart to stock their shelves with nutritious items and playing sports with kids.Although she has been called out for indulging in the occasional hamburger and fries, Michelle Obama has practiced what she preaches: she stays fit (those arms are still toned after all these years) and maintains an enviably healthy body, both inside and out. Yet some conservative critics don't see it that way. Before Representative Sensenbrenner spoke out, Rush Limbaugh was on the case, disparaging Michelle Obama's body as a way to critique her healthy eating campaign. The radio host said in February: "The problem is, and dare I say this, it doesn't look like Michelle Obama follows her own nutritionary, dietary advice...I'm trying to say that our First Lady does not project the image of women that you might see on the cover of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue or of a woman Alex Rodriguez might date every six months or what have you."With comments like these, Limbaugh and Sensenbrenner not only blatantly insult the first lady. They also invoke the specious notion that skinny equals healthy, that women with shapely curves can't possibly lead active, mindful lifestyles. In fact, Michelle Obama and her fabulous physique are an ideal example for women -- and men -- of what an active, balanced, healthy lifestyle looks like. Posterior and all. Read more about Rep. Sensenbrenner's comments at Mediabistro.com.UPDATE: Rep. Sensenbrenner's spokesperson has responded to the Daily Mail's report on the subject, saying: "Mr. Sensenbrenner was referring to the First Ladys healthy food initiative. He doesnt think the government should be telling Americans what to eat. While he may not agree with all of her initiatives, he plans to contact the First Ladys office to apologize for his comments."Two Fat Pigs Comment On Michelle Obama's AssThe Government is not telling people what to eat. Michelle Obama merely encourages people to eat healthy and excercise, like that's a bad thing, considering the rise in childhood obesity.I guess Sensenbrenner and Limbaugh don't like that, because from the looks of it, they're both pretty handy with a fork.Which one of those people looks the most fit? Edited by MistyBlue, 22 December 2011 - 11:33 AM.

This one's for you Puss.....Ouch! That's gotta hurt Puss, coming from the WSJ Op-Ed page.I predict that John Boehner will go down as the worst, most ineffective Speaker in history.Gosh, Repubs won't go along with Obama's $40 annual tax cut that even the government says is impossible to implement? Don't spend it all in one place.He won't go along with blowing a $250 billion annual hole in S.S.?So much for Dems' concerns about protecting Social Security.Every single Repub presidential candidate has an excellent tax cut/ reform proposal that would create jobs.Say, how's that roaring Obama Economy going?Are we having fun yet?

Nuthin, huh? You were here when I wrote that, and you ran like your *** was on fire.Fox News reported that the Bush administration was unable to prove that in person voter fraud was anything but rare.And a recent study by the Republican National Lawyers Association has also shown that in person voter fraud is extremely rare, and does not warrant the type of legislation that is being pushed by Republican governors and legislatures. Those laws are specifically designed to disenfranchise people who tend to vote for Democrats.Gee, that's just what the NYTimes article I posted said isn't it Puss? You know, the one you were so quick to dismiss?Will you dismiss the Fox article as quickly?Jackhole.Deceitful partisan hack.Voter fraud is almost impossible to catch 1) at the national level and 2) without voter ID laws. Not to mention, it's typically deceitful of you to ignore the many, many, many examples I cite while bleating that Rove couldn't prosecute any.Not to mention, many crimes go uncaught and undetected, sometimes for decades. What, organized crime doesn't exist?Oh my, what's this? Oh, not much, just Obama's Justice Dept. refusing to enforce the law to prevent voter fraud.Leaders of the resurrected radical group ACORN are lobbying the Obama administration in what appears to be a concerted effort to game the electoral system to help Democrats, new evidence suggests. At least five Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now leaders have visited the White House this year alone. One of those ACORN officials has been involved in vetting Department of Justice hires who may help to enforce the voter fraud-enabling National Voting Rights Act (NVRA), also known as the Motor-Voter law. The Department has come under fire for refusing to enforce Section 8, which requires states to remove the names of ineligible felons, the dead, and non-residents from voter rolls, while zealously enforcing Section 7, which requires states to register voters at welfare offices.As I argue in my book published earlier this year, Subversion Inc.: How Obama's ACORN Red Shirts are Still Terrorizing and Ripping Off American Taxpayers, those on relief tend to support Democrats, so Section 7 amounts to a taxpayer subsidy for Democratic candidates......http://spectator.org...ama-white-house

This post is hidden because you have chosen to ignore posts by RichClem . View it anyway? OMg that image and caption is sheer comedy genius!

OMg that image and caption is sheer comedy genius! Blatant, scurrilous, shameless dishonesty about highly important topics bothers me. The fate and future of the US are literally at stake.Gosh, I must be some kind of psycho, right?Imbecile.