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Blatant, scurrilous, shameless dishonesty about highly important topics bothers me. The fate and future of the US are literally at stake.Gosh, I must be some kind of psycho, right?Imbecile.Where has Missy been dishonest? I would like to see the quote please.

Where has Missy been dishonest? I would like to see the quote please.Oh geez.There was no credible evidence whatsoever that Bill Clinton raped anybody

Oh geez.Again! For the rational people here:Where has Missy been dishonest? I would like to see the quote please."Evidence" against Clinton as a "rapist" is less credible than evidence that Ronald Reagan was a rapist.

Oh geez.I knew you would bring up Clinton. If anyone here is a dishonest hack, it's you Clemmy. You constantly deny that the investigation of Clinton was the most well funded, exhaustive, penetrating and humiliating witch hunt in history. Cost of investigation led by Kenneth Starr: $40 million. Amount spent by NIST and FEMA to investigate the cause of WTC collapse: $500k Right wingers and their skewed priorities are truly amazing. BTW, Kenneth had agents swarming Hope, Arkansas, as did Mellon Scaife and other right wing millionaires trying to find dirt on Clinton, related to Whitewater, sexual scandals, traffic tickets, anything. After all that, what could they pin on him? NOTHING. To be the target of that vast right wing conspiracy, and come out blameless, Clinton must have been a frickin saint.

"Evidence" against Clinton as a "rapist" is less credible than evidence that Ronald Reagan was a rapist.Hilarious to see a lying troll bleating his support for another lying troll.Many, many liberal Clinton supporters were persuaded by the evidence that Clinton was a rapist.Not even Reagan haters believed the claim against him, except liars like you or moonbats.I knew you would bring up Clinton. If anyone here is a dishonest hack, it's you Clemmy.Hey, great job at ignoring that blatant lie by little Miss Marxist.Figures.You constantly deny that the investigation of Clinton was the most well funded, exhaustive, penetrating and humiliating witch hunt in history. Cost of investigation led by Kenneth Starr: $40 million. Amount spent by NIST and FEMA to investigate the cause of WTC collapse: $500k Right wingers and their skewed priorities are truly amazing. BTW, Kenneth had agents swarming Hope, Arkansas, as did Mellon Scaife and other right wing millionaires trying to find dirt on Clinton, related to Whitewater, sexual scandals, traffic tickets, anything. After all that, what could they pin on him? NOTHING. To be the target of that vast right wing conspiracy, and come out blameless, Clinton must have been a frickin saint.Hey moonbat, could you be much more of an ignoramus?Starr was prohibited by federal law from investigating the real Clinton scandals, and despite repeated entreaties by Clinton's FBI Director and hand picked investigator, his corrupt AG refused to appoint an Independent Counsel.He committed so many crimes and impeachable acts, he was impeached, never mind that he surrendered his law license and paid a large fine for committing perjury regarding the sexual harassment lawsuit by Paula Jones.Just close your eyes and go back to sleep.

Hilarious to see a lying troll bleating his support for another lying troll.I didn't realize you were supporting anyone.

Hilarious to see a lying troll bleating his support for another lying troll.I didn't realize you were supporting anyone.Is this the best you can do, empty rhetoric?I've never denied or exonerated Bill fo his philandering. But, he did nothing illegal Can't get much more dishonest than that. What, are you trying to emulate Paul Begala?

Is this the best you can do, empty rhetoric?Can't get much more dishonest than that. What, are you trying to emulate Paul Begala?My rhetoric is better than yours and even YOU know it.Still can't tell between opinion and lies, can you?

Still can't tell between opinion and lies, can you? Such as:Taxes do not affect 'economic growth,' "Konymist Klem."So if the income tax rate were 99%, it wouldn't effect economic growth?Come on, give an honest answer.

Such as:So if the income tax rate were 99%, it wouldn't effect economic growth?Come on, give an honest answer.Tax cuts can spur economic activity, sure (but not necessarily). But rises in actual productivity depend on technological change. Tax cuts given to investors do nothing if no demand exists, but cost the rest of the tax payers mightily.

Tax cuts can spur economic activity, sure (but not necessarily). But rises in actual productivity depend on technological change. More troll bulls***, hiding behind empty rhetoric.Hey troll, you dodged the question. Here, try again.If the income tax rate were 99%, it wouldn't effect economic growth?Come on, give an honest answer.Tax cuts given to investors do nothing if no demand exists, but cost the rest of the tax payers mightily.Hey moonbat, almost all investing involves H-I-R-I-N-G, so any investor with a little common sense would know that cutting the correct tax rate will not only directly increase the incentive to invest, but stimulate job and economic growth, too.That's called Capitalism, about which a Marxist like you has no freaking clue. Edited by RichClem, 22 December 2011 - 04:36 PM.

More troll bulls***, hiding behind empty rhetoric.Hey troll, you dodged the question. Here, try again.Gee, Klem. If taxes were 0% to investors, and demand was still non-existent, would tax rates affect economic growth?Get a petri dish -- grow a brain cell.Hey moonbat, almost all investing involves H-I-R-I-N-G, so any investor with a little common sense would know that cutting the correct tax rate will not only directly increase the incentive to invest, but stimulate job and economic growth, too.That's called Capitalism, about which a Marxist like you has no freaking clue.Even if your hypothesis were correct (which it isn't), Why would anyone invest if demand is flat?

Which one of those people looks the most fit?Not Manchelle!

Gee, Klem. If taxes were 0% to investors, and demand was still non-existent, would tax rates affect economic growth?Get a petri dish -- grow a brain cell.Even if your hypothesis were correct (which it isn't), Why would anyone invest if demand is flat?Sorry, you're just too freaking stupid to deserve a thoughtful response.What I wrote was 1) accepted by all the country's business/ Economics publications and 2) self apparent.Except to Marxist trolls.

Sorry, you're just too freaking stupid to deserve a thoughtful response.What I wrote was 1) accepted by all the country's business/ Economics publications and 2) self apparent.Except to Marxist trolls.Can't answer the question, huh? I'm not surprised.What you regurgitated is right-wing mythology for gullible lemmings - people like you.

Gosh, Repubs won't go along with Obama's $40 annual tax cut that even the government says is impossible to implement? Don't spend it all in one place.That's $40 a week for the average working family Puss. I guess you're so loaded that doesn't mean much to you. To most people, it means a lot.Looks like they caved, doesn't it? Boehner came out all alone yesterday with nothing but his dick in his hand. His days as Speaker are numbered. The Tea Party is destroying your GOP.

Deceitful partisan hack.Voter fraud is almost impossible to catch....But you always say it's rampant? How would you know that? .....it's typically deceitful of you to ignore the many, many, many examples I cite while bleating that Rove couldn't prosecute any.So where did you get those many, many, many examples, if it's almost impossible to catch?Not to mention, many crimes go uncaught and undetected, sometimes for decades.OIC. So all these Republican governors and state legislatures are passing all these new Voter I.D. laws for crimes that have thus far gone undetected. Kind of like a solution, in search of a problem.ROFLMAO, you get more **** crazy every day.Even Fox News (a source you like) said in person voter fraud is rare. And the Republican National Lawyers Association own study undercut their own contention that in person voter fraud is rampant (see post #749 in this thread). Edited by MistyBlue, 23 December 2011 - 10:06 AM.

Speaking of voter fraud, it seems like every time we hear about a real case and not an imagined one, it's a Republican.First the two guys in Maryland (see post #737) and now this guy.An Indianapolis county court has removed Indiana Secretary of State Charles White from office on charges of voter fraud relating to his 2010 election. The Marion County Circuit Court issued the order late Thursday afternoon in response to a Democratic Party civil suit alleging that White lied about his residency during the 2010 election to retain salary from a town councilman post he held. White is currently facing criminal charges stemming from the voter fraud allegations. In Indiana, the secretary of state also serves as the chief elections official.The court order requires the state's Recount Commission to void White's 2010 election certification and award the secretary of state's post to runner-up Vop Osili (D). Osili was elected last month as a councilman for the Indianapolis-Marion County government. LinkA Hamilton County grand jury indicted White in March on seven felony counts alleging that he used his ex-wife's address on voter registration and other documents while he actually lived at a condo where he intended to live with his new wife, and that he collected his town council salary after moving out of the district he represented.http://www.chicagotr...0,3764456.storyRepublicans.....what a bunch of criminals. Edited by MistyBlue, 23 December 2011 - 10:16 AM.

RetchedClump: http://liberalforum.net/liberalforum/index.php?/topic/115646-richclem/page__p__2375006__fromsearch__1#entry2375006 The roaring "Obama economy" is in a hole, thanks to neoliberal policies by the Obama administration and Repugs. I thought those were policies you endorsed? Edited by Avenger_of_Justice, 24 December 2011 - 02:15 PM.

Merry Christmas AJ.