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11 Mar 2011 1:42 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
31 Aug 2020 11:18 am
So what were they protesting duck?duck615 » 31 Aug 2020, 11:06 am » wrote: ↑They have the same rights as blm and antifa... sad you are willing to stifle their rights but not blm and antifa...Misty » 31 Aug 2020, 11:03 am » wrote: ↑ So what were they protesting?
They went into Portland to counter protest against the protesters.
And Trump is stirring this **** up.
The local officials already have enough to deal with.
Now they have to deal with two different groups clashing with each other.
This is only making it harder for them.
Surely not police brutality.
They are NOT protesters.
They are COUNTER protesters.
31 Aug 2020 11:19 am
Misty » 31 Aug 2020, 11:18 am » wrote: ↑ So what were they protesting duck?
Surely not police brutality.
They are NOT protesters.
They are COUNTER protesters.
They were showing their support for President Trump... Is that now against the law in your book?
31 Aug 2020 11:20 am
I'm not assuming anything.duck615 » 31 Aug 2020, 11:18 am » wrote: ↑you are assuming... didn't your momma ever teach you what happens when you assume?Misty » 31 Aug 2020, 11:15 am » wrote: ↑ And I guarantee you that if an unmasked BLM protestor had spewed their droplets into the face of a cop, they would have been beaten and/or arrested.
The internet is full of videos of protesters being beaten just for mouthing off to a cop.
31 Aug 2020 11:21 am
Misty » 31 Aug 2020, 11:20 am » wrote: ↑ I'm not assuming anything.
The internet is full of videos of protesters being beaten just for mouthing off to a cop.
lol do you know the whole context of the video that was shot?
31 Aug 2020 11:22 am
They can do that anywhere.duck615 » 31 Aug 2020, 11:19 am » wrote: ↑They were showing their support for President Trump... Is that now against the law in your book?Misty » 31 Aug 2020, 11:18 am » wrote: ↑ So what were they protesting duck?
Surely not police brutality.
They are NOT protesters.
They are COUNTER protesters.
Why did they have to drive through a bunch of protesters to do that?
C'mon duck.
I'm not that naive.
31 Aug 2020 11:23 am
Misty » 31 Aug 2020, 11:22 am » wrote: ↑ They can do that anywhere.
Why did they have to drive through a bunch of protesters to do that?
C'mon duck.
I'm not that naive.
they are free to go anywhere... do you believe that or not?
31 Aug 2020 11:25 am
These right wing militias have been going to protests armed way before any of the burning and looting started.rippy3838 » 31 Aug 2020, 11:22 am » wrote: ↑So, who is responsible for creating the environment where people feel the need to arm themselves to go protest?Misty » 31 Aug 2020, 11:12 am » wrote: ↑ Just as threatening .
I don't think there's any place for that in a peaceful protest.
I don't care which side does it.
Could it be the punks that have been physically beating down any opposition and burning and looting at the same time?
That armed protest at the capitol building in Michigan was back in April.
No one was looting or burning back then.
31 Aug 2020 11:28 am
Just because you are free to do something that doesn’t mean it's the right thing to do.duck615 » 31 Aug 2020, 11:23 am » wrote: ↑they are free to go anywhere... do you believe that or not?Misty » 31 Aug 2020, 11:22 am » wrote: ↑ They can do that anywhere.
Why did they have to drive through a bunch of protesters to do that?
C'mon duck.
I'm not that naive.
They inserted themselves into an already volatile situation.
Nothing good was going to come from that.
31 Aug 2020 11:28 am
SO? they have a legal right to carry...Misty » 31 Aug 2020, 11:25 am » wrote: ↑ These right wing militias have been going to protests armed way before any of the burning and looting started.
That armed protest at the capitol building in Michigan was back in April.
No one was looting or burning back then.
31 Aug 2020 11:30 am
How about the people protesting against the police? Is it right for them to burn and loot? Seems to me, they inserted or started something that got away from them. They are no longer peaceful protesters... they crossed the line.Misty » 31 Aug 2020, 11:28 am » wrote: ↑ Just because you are free to do something that doesn’t mean it's the right thing to do.
They inserted themselves into an already volatile situation.
Nothing good was going to come from that.
31 Aug 2020 11:41 am
You're changing the subject now.rippy3838 » 31 Aug 2020, 11:27 am » wrote: ↑How many right wing protests have resulted in burning, looting, and outright anarchy?Misty » 31 Aug 2020, 11:25 am » wrote: ↑ These right wing militias have been going to protests armed way before any of the burning and looting started.
That armed protest at the capitol building in Michigan was back in April.
No one was looting or burning back then.
You said they feel the need to arm themselves because of the burning and looting and the fear of being beaten.
But they have been arming themselves at protests going way back.
Remember the 2014 Bundy standoff?
When you're a white guy you can even point your weapon at federal law enforcement officials and get away with it.
Speaking of the Bundys.
Anti government activist Ammon Bundy has been arrested for a second time in two days at the Idaho State Capitol.
State police gave Bundy a no trespass notice after he entered the state Senate chamber Wednesday morning, less than 24 hours after he was hauled out of the building Tuesday and charged with trespassing and resisting and obstructing officers.
Police say Bundy was uncooperative on Wednesday and that troopers "were forced to physically remove him, take him to a stairwell, place him in a wheelchair and then into a patrol vehicle."
Police have barred Bundy from entering the Idaho capitol building for a year.
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/25/90604691 ... statehouse
31 Aug 2020 11:45 am
It doesn't seem to matter how many times we denounce the looting and burning.duck615 » 31 Aug 2020, 11:30 am » wrote: ↑How about the people protesting against the police? Is it right for them to burn and loot? Seems to me, they inserted or started something that got away from them. They are no longer peaceful protesters... they crossed the line.Misty » 31 Aug 2020, 11:28 am » wrote: ↑Just because you are free to do something that doesn’t mean it's the right thing to do.
They inserted themselves into an already volatile situation.
Nothing good was going to come from that.
We still get accused of supporting it.
Nobody ever called those pinheads peaceful protesters.
This is a peaceful protest:
This is not:
I know the difference.
31 Aug 2020 11:56 am
And I showed you that people were arming themselves at protests years before anyone was looting or burning anything.rippy3838 » 31 Aug 2020, 11:46 am » wrote: ↑And you say I'm changing the subject?Misty » 31 Aug 2020, 11:41 am » wrote: ↑ You're changing the subject now.
You said they feel the need to arm themselves because of the burning and looting and the fear of being beaten.
But they have been arming themselves at protests going way back.
Remember the 2014 Bundy standoff?
When you're a white guy you can even point your weapon at federal law enforcement officials and get away with it.
Speaking of the Bundys.
I asked who you think is responsible for creating the environment where people feel they need to arm up to protest in the present tense.
Point being, people aren't attending protests today while armed, because of an isolated incident from 2014.
It's not a new phenomenon.
You can't use anything that is happening today as an excuse.
Again, when those armed protesters took over the Michigan state capitol back in April, George Floyd was still alive and there were no BLM protests going on.
31 Aug 2020 12:12 pm
Maybe to protect themselves from a bunch of self-appointed vigilante pinheads.rippy3838 » 31 Aug 2020, 11:58 am » wrote: ↑So why are people arming up to go to today's "peaceful" protests?Misty » 31 Aug 2020, 11:56 am » wrote: ↑ And I showed you that people were arming themselves at protests years before anyone was looting or burning anything.
It's not a new phenomenon.
You can't use anything that is happening today as an excuse.
Again, when those armed protesters took over the Michigan state capitol back in April, George Floyd was still alive and there were no BLM protests going on.
Could it because they are not so peaceful?
31 Aug 2020 12:21 pm
They never walked up to their front door.rippy3838 » 31 Aug 2020, 12:10 pm » wrote: ↑Maybe they live and work there... or own the businesses that are being looted and destroyed maybe?Pengwin » 31 Aug 2020, 12:06 pm » wrote: ↑ And why would they be there in the first place? There's no reason for them to be.
But if you mean owners protecting their property from those who might riot or loot using the protest as a cover, more power to them, as long as they are willing to deal with the consequences.
In St Louis, the mob kicked down a gate and walked up to a couples front door, and then the couple was arrested for pointing guns at them.
They were walking down the street towards the mayor's house.
The McCloskeys, who have a history of filing lawsuits including against their own property managers, claimed that they acted appropriately after “a mob” smashed their way through the private development’s gate.
“The only thing that stopped the crowd from approaching the house was when I had that rifle,” Mark McCloskey said in an interview with NBC affiliate KSDK.
“[It was] the only thing that stemmed the tide.”
But video obtained by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch shows that the gate to Portland Place was open when the protesters arrived.
Moments after the march moved past his house, Mark McCloskey can be seen yelling at protesters and wielding a rifle.
His wife soon joined him and the couple moved from the front door to the lawn adjoining the street, with Patricia McCloskey repeatedly pointing a small pistol at protesters.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... ons-count/
31 Aug 2020 12:33 pm
.Misty
They never walked up to their front door.
They were walking down the street towards the mayor's house.
What ****. The Mayor's house is quite a long way away.
And they were shouting threats of violence including threatening to kill that couple.
There's an audiotape of it.
So who gives a **** where they were or were not going?
31 Aug 2020 12:36 pm
Proving yet again you're a liar and a wackjob.Pengwin » 31 Aug 2020, 12:22 pm » wrote: ↑ Not even close.
1. No one knows when the gate was damaged. It looked fine at the time of the protest.
2. They weren't arrested but they were charged. Their lawyer has her gun, the police have his.
3. The protesters were 25 maybe 30 feet away on the sidewalk.
The rioters broke down the gate immediately before.
And it would take what, five second to run to that couple and assault or kill them?
If that couple didn't have the right to brandish weapons in self defense, there is no right to self defense.
31 Aug 2020 12:46 pm
Clem's favorite source, Gatewaypundit, posted an article based on a Tweet by a QAnon supporter.Twitter on Sunday took down a tweet containing a false claim about coronavirus death statistics that was made by a supporter of the baseless QAnon conspiracy theory -- a post that President Donald Trump had retweeted earlier in the day.
The tweet -- which has been replaced with a message saying, "This Tweet is no longer available because it violated the Twitter Rules -- from "Mel Q," copied from someone else's Facebook post, claimed that the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had "quietly" updated its numbers "to admit that only 6%" of people listed as coronavirus deaths "actually died from Covid," since "the other 94% had 2-3 other serious illnesses."
That's not what the CDC said.
As of Sunday at 4 p.m. ET, Twitter had not removed a second tweet, also retweeted by the President on Sunday, that spread the same false claim.
The second tweet, by Trump campaign adviser Jenna Ellis, linked to an article on the right-wing website Gateway Pundit that was based on the QAnon supporter's tweet.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/30/politics ... index.html
9,210 deaths.
Our president Tweeted that QAnon conspiracy ****.
31 Aug 2020 12:51 pm
.Pengwin » 31 Aug 2020, 12:44 pm » wrote: ↑1. Didn't happen. There are pictures and the gate is fine.Termin8tor » 31 Aug 2020, 12:36 pm » wrote: ↑Proving yet again you're a liar and a wackjob.
The rioters broke down the gate immediately before.
And it would take what, five second to run to that couple and assault or kill them?
If that couple didn't have the right to brandish weapons in self defense, there is no right to self defense.
2. Doesn't matter, they stayed on the sidewalk.
3. They have a right to weapons and a right to self-defense, but not a right to point their guns at people and threaten them. That's why their guns were taken and they were charged.
Look at this pic, she went after them not the other way around. And why wasn't she worried, she knew the gun wouldn't fire. Something to do with the trigger spring being placed in backwards for evidence in court.
Are you really that **** stupid or do you just lie about everything?
They were shouting death threats, and it would take all of 3 or 4 second to swarm and maim or kill them.
It has been reported even by the corrupt liberal MSM that the gate was broken down.
And of course the best defense it to be aggressively dangerous. Don't be **** ridiculous that you can't point weapons at people who have threatened your lives.
31 Aug 2020 1:00 pm
.Pengwin » 31 Aug 2020, 12:57 pm » wrote: ↑ They weren't being threatened. The protesters were the ones being threatened.
And here's the gate, in perfect condition when the protesters went through.
Oh yeah, that mean couple just walked out of their house and threatened those nice young people innocently walking by their house.
The stupid **** lies wackjobs tell, geez.
There's an audiotape of them threatening the couple's lives that's been played on Fox and elsewhere, wackjob.
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