Flying Monkeys
By Nobody
11 Mar 2011 1:42 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
16 Oct 2020 7:05 pm
This is about the NY Post Hunter Biden laptop article from TechCrunch an American online publisher focusing on the tech industry.
There are so many problems with this story it is difficult to know where to begin.
1. The very idea that a laptop with a video of Hunter Biden smoking crack on it would be given to a random repair shop to recover is absurd.
It is years since his drug use and Burisma dealings became a serious issue of international importance, and professionals would long since have taken custody of any relevant hardware or storage.
It is beyond the worst operational security in the world to give an unencrypted device with confidential data on it to a third party.
It is, however, very much a valid way for someone to make a device appear to be from a person or organization without providing any verification that it is so.
2. The repair shop supposedly could not identify Hunter Biden, who lives in Los Angeles, as the customer.
But the invoice (for $85 — remarkably cheap for diagnosis, recovery, and backup of three damaged Macs) has “Hunter Biden” written right on it, with a phone number and one of the email addresses he reportedly used.
It seems unlikely that Hunter Biden’s personal laptop — again, loaded with personal and confidential information, and possibly communications with the VP — would be given to a small repair shop (rather than an Apple Store or vetted dealer) and that shop would be given his personal details for contact.
Political operators with large supporting organizations simply don’t do that — though someone else could have.
3. Even if they did, the idea that Biden or his assistant or whoever would not return to pick up the laptop or pay for the services is extremely suspicious.
Again, these are supposedly the personal devices of someone who communicated regularly with the VP, and whose work had come under intense scrutiny long before they were dropped off.
They would not be treated lightly or forgotten. On the other hand, someone who wanted this data to be inspected would do exactly this.
4. That the laptops themselves were open and unencrypted is ridiculous.
The serial number of the laptop suggests it was a 2017 MacBook Pro, probably running Mojave.
Every Mac running Lion or later has easily enabled built-in encryption.
It would be unusual for anyone to provide a laptop for repair that had no password or protection whatsoever on its files, let alone a person like Hunter Biden — again, years into efforts to uncover personal data relating to his work in Ukraine.
An actor who wanted this data to be discovered and read would leave it unencrypted.
5. That this information would be inspected by the repair shop at all is very suspect indeed.
Recovery of an ostensibly damaged Mac would likely take the form of cloning the drive and checking its integrity against the original.
There is no reason the files or apps themselves would need to be looked at in the course of the work in the first place.
Some shops have software that checks file hashes, if they can see them, against a database of known child sex abuse material.
And there have been notable breaches of trust where repair staff illicitly accessed the contents of a laptop to get personal data.
But there’s really no legitimate reason for this business to inspect the contents of the devices they are working on, let alone share that information with anyone, let alone a partisan operative.
The owner, and avid Trump supporter, gave an interview this morning giving inconsistent information on what had happened and suggested he investigated the laptops of his own volition and retained copies for personal protection.
6. The data itself is not convincing. The Post has published screenshots of emails instead of the full text with metadata — something you would want to do if you wanted to show they were authentic.
For stories with potential political implications, it’s wise to verify.
7. Lastly, the fact that a copy was given to Giuliani and Bannon before being handed over to the FBI, and that it is all being published two weeks before the election, lends the whole thing a familiar stink — one you may remember from other pre-election shenanigans in 2016.
The choice of the Post as the outlet for distribution is curious, as well; one need only to accidentally step on one in the subway to understand why.
https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/14/suspe ... edia-bans/
There are so many problems with this story it is difficult to know where to begin.
1. The very idea that a laptop with a video of Hunter Biden smoking crack on it would be given to a random repair shop to recover is absurd.
It is years since his drug use and Burisma dealings became a serious issue of international importance, and professionals would long since have taken custody of any relevant hardware or storage.
It is beyond the worst operational security in the world to give an unencrypted device with confidential data on it to a third party.
It is, however, very much a valid way for someone to make a device appear to be from a person or organization without providing any verification that it is so.
2. The repair shop supposedly could not identify Hunter Biden, who lives in Los Angeles, as the customer.
But the invoice (for $85 — remarkably cheap for diagnosis, recovery, and backup of three damaged Macs) has “Hunter Biden” written right on it, with a phone number and one of the email addresses he reportedly used.
It seems unlikely that Hunter Biden’s personal laptop — again, loaded with personal and confidential information, and possibly communications with the VP — would be given to a small repair shop (rather than an Apple Store or vetted dealer) and that shop would be given his personal details for contact.
Political operators with large supporting organizations simply don’t do that — though someone else could have.
3. Even if they did, the idea that Biden or his assistant or whoever would not return to pick up the laptop or pay for the services is extremely suspicious.
Again, these are supposedly the personal devices of someone who communicated regularly with the VP, and whose work had come under intense scrutiny long before they were dropped off.
They would not be treated lightly or forgotten. On the other hand, someone who wanted this data to be inspected would do exactly this.
4. That the laptops themselves were open and unencrypted is ridiculous.
The serial number of the laptop suggests it was a 2017 MacBook Pro, probably running Mojave.
Every Mac running Lion or later has easily enabled built-in encryption.
It would be unusual for anyone to provide a laptop for repair that had no password or protection whatsoever on its files, let alone a person like Hunter Biden — again, years into efforts to uncover personal data relating to his work in Ukraine.
An actor who wanted this data to be discovered and read would leave it unencrypted.
5. That this information would be inspected by the repair shop at all is very suspect indeed.
Recovery of an ostensibly damaged Mac would likely take the form of cloning the drive and checking its integrity against the original.
There is no reason the files or apps themselves would need to be looked at in the course of the work in the first place.
Some shops have software that checks file hashes, if they can see them, against a database of known child sex abuse material.
And there have been notable breaches of trust where repair staff illicitly accessed the contents of a laptop to get personal data.
But there’s really no legitimate reason for this business to inspect the contents of the devices they are working on, let alone share that information with anyone, let alone a partisan operative.
The owner, and avid Trump supporter, gave an interview this morning giving inconsistent information on what had happened and suggested he investigated the laptops of his own volition and retained copies for personal protection.
6. The data itself is not convincing. The Post has published screenshots of emails instead of the full text with metadata — something you would want to do if you wanted to show they were authentic.
For stories with potential political implications, it’s wise to verify.
7. Lastly, the fact that a copy was given to Giuliani and Bannon before being handed over to the FBI, and that it is all being published two weeks before the election, lends the whole thing a familiar stink — one you may remember from other pre-election shenanigans in 2016.
The choice of the Post as the outlet for distribution is curious, as well; one need only to accidentally step on one in the subway to understand why.
https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/14/suspe ... edia-bans/
16 Oct 2020 8:41 pm
19 Oct 2020 11:40 am
New York Post Published Hunter Biden Report Amid Newsroom Doubts
Some reporters withheld their bylines and questioned the credibility of an article that made the tabloid’s front page on Wednesday.
The New York Post’s front-page article about Hunter Biden on Wednesday was written mostly by a staff reporter who refused to put his name on it, two Post employees said.
Bruce Golding, a reporter at the Rupert Murdoch-owned tabloid since 2007, did not allow his byline to be used because he had concerns over the article’s credibility, the two Post employees said, speaking on the condition of anonymity out of fear of retaliation.
Coming late in a heated presidential campaign, the article suggested that Joseph R. Biden Jr. had used his position to enrich his son Hunter when he was vice president.
The Post based the story on photos and documents the paper said it had taken from the hard drive of a laptop purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden.
Many Post staff members questioned whether the paper had done enough to verify the authenticity of the hard drive’s contents, said five people with knowledge of the tabloid’s inner workings.
Staff members also had concerns about the reliability of its sources and its timing, the people said.
The article named two sources: Stephen K. Bannon, the former adviser to President Trump now facing federal fraud charges, who was said to have made the paper aware of the hard drive last month; and Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, who was said to have given the paper “a copy” of the hard drive on Oct. 11.
Mr. Giuliani said he chose The Post because “either nobody else would take it, or if they took it, they would spend all the time they could to try to contradict it before they put it out.”
Top editors met on Oct. 11 to discuss how to use the material provided by Mr. Giuliani.
The group included the tabloid veteran Colin Allan, known as Col; Stephen Lynch, The Post’s editor in chief; and Michelle Gotthelf, the digital editor in chief, according to a person with knowledge of the meeting.
Mr. Allan, who was The Post’s editor in chief from 2001 to 2016 and returned last year as an adviser, urged his colleagues to move quickly, the person said.
As deadline approached, editors pressed staff members to add their bylines to the story — and at least one aside from Mr. Golding refused, two Post journalists said.
A Post spokeswoman had no comment on how the article was written or edited.
Headlined “BIDEN SECRET E-MAILS,” the article appeared Wednesday with two bylines: Emma-Jo Morris, a deputy politics editor who joined the paper after four years at the Murdoch-owned Fox News, and Gabrielle Fonrouge, a Post reporter since 2014.
Ms. Morris did not have a bylined article in The Post before Wednesday, a search of its website showed.
She arrived at the tabloid in April after working as an associate producer on Sean Hannity’s Fox News show, according to her LinkedIn profile.
Her Instagram account, which was set to private on Wednesday, included photos of her posing with the former Trump administration members Mr. Bannon and Sarah Huckabee Sanders, as well as Roger J. Stone Jr., a friend and former campaign adviser to Mr. Trump.
(In July, the president commuted the sentence of Mr. Stone on seven felonies.)
Ms. Fonrouge had little to do with the reporting or writing of the article, said three people with knowledge of how it was prepared.
She learned that her byline was on the story only after it was published, the people said.
The article relied on documents purportedly taken from the hard drive to suggest that the elder Mr. Biden, as vice president, had directed American foreign policy in Ukraine to benefit his son, a former board member of Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company.
The article also suggested that the elder Mr. Biden had met with a Burisma adviser, Vadym Pozharskyi.
On Wednesday, a Biden campaign spokesman said that Mr. Biden’s official schedules showed no meeting between the former vice president and the adviser.
Last month, two Republican-led Senate committees investigating the matter said they had found no evidence of wrongdoing by the former vice president.
“The senior editors at The Post made the decision to publish the Biden files after several days’ hard work established its merit,” Mr. Allan said in an email.
The New York Times, The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal have reported that they could not independently verify the data in the Post article, which included hedging language, referring at one point to an email “allegedly sent” to Hunter Biden.
“The story was vetted and The Post stands by its reporting,” a Post spokeswoman said in a statement.
Some reporters withheld their bylines and questioned the credibility of an article that made the tabloid’s front page on Wednesday.
The New York Post’s front-page article about Hunter Biden on Wednesday was written mostly by a staff reporter who refused to put his name on it, two Post employees said.
Bruce Golding, a reporter at the Rupert Murdoch-owned tabloid since 2007, did not allow his byline to be used because he had concerns over the article’s credibility, the two Post employees said, speaking on the condition of anonymity out of fear of retaliation.
Coming late in a heated presidential campaign, the article suggested that Joseph R. Biden Jr. had used his position to enrich his son Hunter when he was vice president.
The Post based the story on photos and documents the paper said it had taken from the hard drive of a laptop purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden.
Many Post staff members questioned whether the paper had done enough to verify the authenticity of the hard drive’s contents, said five people with knowledge of the tabloid’s inner workings.
Staff members also had concerns about the reliability of its sources and its timing, the people said.
The article named two sources: Stephen K. Bannon, the former adviser to President Trump now facing federal fraud charges, who was said to have made the paper aware of the hard drive last month; and Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, who was said to have given the paper “a copy” of the hard drive on Oct. 11.
Mr. Giuliani said he chose The Post because “either nobody else would take it, or if they took it, they would spend all the time they could to try to contradict it before they put it out.”
Top editors met on Oct. 11 to discuss how to use the material provided by Mr. Giuliani.
The group included the tabloid veteran Colin Allan, known as Col; Stephen Lynch, The Post’s editor in chief; and Michelle Gotthelf, the digital editor in chief, according to a person with knowledge of the meeting.
Mr. Allan, who was The Post’s editor in chief from 2001 to 2016 and returned last year as an adviser, urged his colleagues to move quickly, the person said.
As deadline approached, editors pressed staff members to add their bylines to the story — and at least one aside from Mr. Golding refused, two Post journalists said.
A Post spokeswoman had no comment on how the article was written or edited.
Headlined “BIDEN SECRET E-MAILS,” the article appeared Wednesday with two bylines: Emma-Jo Morris, a deputy politics editor who joined the paper after four years at the Murdoch-owned Fox News, and Gabrielle Fonrouge, a Post reporter since 2014.
Ms. Morris did not have a bylined article in The Post before Wednesday, a search of its website showed.
She arrived at the tabloid in April after working as an associate producer on Sean Hannity’s Fox News show, according to her LinkedIn profile.
Her Instagram account, which was set to private on Wednesday, included photos of her posing with the former Trump administration members Mr. Bannon and Sarah Huckabee Sanders, as well as Roger J. Stone Jr., a friend and former campaign adviser to Mr. Trump.
(In July, the president commuted the sentence of Mr. Stone on seven felonies.)
Ms. Fonrouge had little to do with the reporting or writing of the article, said three people with knowledge of how it was prepared.
She learned that her byline was on the story only after it was published, the people said.
The article relied on documents purportedly taken from the hard drive to suggest that the elder Mr. Biden, as vice president, had directed American foreign policy in Ukraine to benefit his son, a former board member of Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company.
The article also suggested that the elder Mr. Biden had met with a Burisma adviser, Vadym Pozharskyi.
On Wednesday, a Biden campaign spokesman said that Mr. Biden’s official schedules showed no meeting between the former vice president and the adviser.
Last month, two Republican-led Senate committees investigating the matter said they had found no evidence of wrongdoing by the former vice president.
“The senior editors at The Post made the decision to publish the Biden files after several days’ hard work established its merit,” Mr. Allan said in an email.
The New York Times, The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal have reported that they could not independently verify the data in the Post article, which included hedging language, referring at one point to an email “allegedly sent” to Hunter Biden.
“The story was vetted and The Post stands by its reporting,” a Post spokeswoman said in a statement.
19 Oct 2020 11:51 am
You are a LIAR and a TRAITOR I have proven it many times just like i ANSWERED that childish talking point many times EVERY TIME you run away sobbing like the GUTLESSCOWARD you Are there was NO collusion hoax there was COLLUSION and the Senate Intelligence comittee and Horowitz who investigated EXACTLY if the Russia investigation was justifed AGRE WITH ME. You are A LIAR and a TRAITORTermin8tor » 19 Oct 2020, 11:47 am » wrote: ↑ .
Oh my, some had doubts. Did anyone have doubts about three years of Fake News, **** and lies about the Russian Collusion Hoax at any of your corrupt sources?
.
And what happened to the stupid lie that it's Russian disinformation?
.
https://time.com/5746639/inspector-gene ... /Inspector General Finds FBI Probe into Trump Campaign Was Justified, But Not PerfectIn a highly anticipated report released Monday, Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz determined that the FBI had adequate cause in July 2016 to justify opening an investigation into links between the Trump campaign and Russia and did not find hard evidence of political bias in that decision, undermining allegations by President Trump and his allies that the bureau acted improperly in launching the probe.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... e-n1237184Trump’s campaign chairman was consorting with a Russia spyThe report says — in a first — that Konstantin Kilimnik, an associate of then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, was a “Russian intelligence officer.” It also says Manafort was meeting regularly and sharing information with Kilimnik, including internal Trump campaign polling data.
The idea that Ukraine interfered in the campaign originated with Russian intelligenceKilimnick, a Russian intelligence operative, “almost certainly helped arrange some of the first public messaging” that Ukraine interfered in the election, an idea that Trump embraced, the report said. One example cited was his email to a Financial Times reporter, who subsequently wrote a story headlined, “Ukraine's leaders campaign against 'pro-Putin' Trump.”Carter Page may have been wronged by the FBI, but the committee found him suspiciousThe Justice Department inspector general found that the FBI made serious errors in applying for surveillance on Page, a former Trump campaign aide, and an FBI lawyer had admitted to a crime as a result. Page was never charged in the investigation, but the committee was not pleased with what he had to say to lawmakers. FBI scrutiny of Page was justified, the report says.
19 Oct 2020 12:07 pm
They dont need to appologize for ANYTHING they were RIGHT and you are a LIAR and a TRAITORTermin8tor » 19 Oct 2020, 11:57 am » wrote: ↑ .
Has the corrupt leftist NYTimes ever apologized for three years of Fake News, **** and lies about the Russian Collusion Hoax?
You are a LIAR and a TRAITOR I have proven it many times just like i ANSWERED that childish talking point many times EVERY TIME you run away sobbing like the GUTLESSCOWARD you Are there was NO collusion hoax there was COLLUSION and the Senate Intelligence comittee and Horowitz who investigated EXACTLY if the Russia investigation was justifed AGRE WITH ME. You are A LIAR and a TRAITOR
https://time.com/5746639/inspector-gene ... /Inspector General Finds FBI Probe into Trump Campaign Was Justified, But Not PerfectIn a highly anticipated report released Monday, Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz determined that the FBI had adequate cause in July 2016 to justify opening an investigation into links between the Trump campaign and Russia and did not find hard evidence of political bias in that decision, undermining allegations by President Trump and his allies that the bureau acted improperly in launching the probe.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... e-n1237184Trump’s campaign chairman was consorting with a Russia spyThe report says — in a first — that Konstantin Kilimnik, an associate of then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, was a “Russian intelligence officer.” It also says Manafort was meeting regularly and sharing information with Kilimnik, including internal Trump campaign polling data.
The idea that Ukraine interfered in the campaign originated with Russian intelligenceKilimnick, a Russian intelligence operative, “almost certainly helped arrange some of the first public messaging” that Ukraine interfered in the election, an idea that Trump embraced, the report said. One example cited was his email to a Financial Times reporter, who subsequently wrote a story headlined, “Ukraine's leaders campaign against 'pro-Putin' Trump.”Carter Page may have been wronged by the FBI, but the committee found him suspiciousThe Justice Department inspector general found that the FBI made serious errors in applying for surveillance on Page, a former Trump campaign aide, and an FBI lawyer had admitted to a crime as a result. Page was never charged in the investigation, but the committee was not pleased with what he had to say to lawmakers. FBI scrutiny of Page was justified, the report says.
19 Oct 2020 1:24 pm
It wasn't fake news you gaping asshole.Termin8tor » 19 Oct 2020, 11:47 am » wrote: ↑Oh my, some had doubts. Did anyone have doubts about three years of Fake News, **** and lies about the Russian Collusion Hoax at any of your corrupt sources?Misty » 19 Oct 2020, 11:40 am » wrote: ↑ New York Post Published Hunter Biden Report Amid Newsroom Doubts
Some reporters withheld their bylines and questioned the credibility of an article that made the tabloid’s front page on Wednesday.
This time Trump sent his personal lawyer out to dig up dirt on the Bidens and Rudy is bringing Russian disinformation from a man who is known to be a member of Russian intelligence right into the **** WH.
Why won't Rudy or the NY Post let anyone examine the hard drive?
19 Oct 2020 1:26 pm
Where is your evidence that anyone in the Obama administration committed any felonies?Termin8tor » 16 Oct 2020, 6:12 pm » wrote: ↑Yes, by corrupt Establishment hacks, the same kind who investigated Trump for three years and found zero, zip,nada.Misty: ROFL
I guess that's why he's under investigation by the same U.S. Attorney's office that he once ran.
And who committed a lot of felonies in their attempt to force Trump out of office.
Why don't you bend over and see if you can pull some out of your ***?
19 Oct 2020 1:32 pm
The reporter who wrote the story refused to put his name on it.Termin8tor » 19 Oct 2020, 11:55 am » wrote: ↑This is so **** typical of how the corrupt NYTimes covers up Democrat scandals.
They attack the source and write **** rather than reporting the key facts.
If your only proof of that is the NY Post article, good luck with that.Termin8tor » 19 Oct 2020, 11:55 am » wrote: ↑ Slow Joe was getting half the kids grift as a kickback for selling out the country.
Trump’s whole family of grifters are using his position to enrich themselves, and not a peep out of you about that, you **** hypocrite.
19 Oct 2020 1:38 pm
It wasn't a hoax.Termin8tor » 19 Oct 2020, 11:57 am » wrote: ↑Has the corrupt leftist NYTimes ever apologized for three years of Fake News, **** and lies about the Russian Collusion Hoax?
This time Trump's personal attorney is trotting around the globe looking for Russian disinformation and bringing it directly back to Trump.
OIC, so the NY Times is only trustworthy when you use it as a source.Termin8tor » 19 Oct 2020, 11:57 am » wrote: ↑ No, so why are you citing such an untrustworthy source?
When it comes to being trustworthy, I will put the NY Times up against that Murdoch rag the NY Post any day of the week.
19 Oct 2020 1:41 pm
They were right about how much money he owes.duck615 » 19 Oct 2020, 1:39 pm » wrote: ↑ Just like the unnamed person of the NYT article about Trumps taxes. .
He confirmed that himself.
19 Oct 2020 2:00 pm
I guess you didn't watch his Clown Hall forum where he admitted it to Savanah Guthrie.duck615 » 19 Oct 2020, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑Wrong again...Misty » 19 Oct 2020, 1:41 pm » wrote: ↑They were right about how much money he owes.
He confirmed that himself.
Google it you jackass.
19 Oct 2020 2:03 pm
So???? He broke no laws...Misty » 19 Oct 2020, 2:00 pm » wrote: ↑ I guess you didn't watch his Clown Hall forum where he admitted it to Savanah Guthrie.
Google it you jackass.
19 Oct 2020 2:25 pm
So....first you said that he didn't admit that he owed the money, and now you say that he broke no laws by owing the money.duck615 » 19 Oct 2020, 2:03 pm » wrote: ↑So???? He broke no laws...Misty » 19 Oct 2020, 2:00 pm » wrote: ↑ I guess you didn't watch his Clown Hall forum where he admitted it to Savanah Guthrie.
Google it you jackass.
Move the goalpost much?
No one else who owed that amount of money could even obtain a security clearance from the government.
They would be considered a security risk.
19 Oct 2020 2:31 pm
GOD you are STUPID Intelligence officials WARNED the White House Russians were targettting Julie Annie and he was repeating along time ago PROVEN Russiam Military Intelltence propaganda abuot the UKRAINE being the hackers of the DNC not RussiaTermin8tor » 19 Oct 2020, 2:16 pm » wrote: ↑ .
Wow, what specific Russian disinformation has he gotten?
Quote it.
You can't, because he hasn't released it, so you're lying.
.
.
When conservative sources AND the corrupt NYTimes agree, it's almost certainly true. The NYTimes by itself is totally untrustworthy on politics.
.
,.
Why didn't the NYTimes report this factual information that you censored? Because both you and they want to hide it to protect their candidate.
You are a LIAR the NYTimes is FAIRLY reliable except when they just PARROT what White house is saying YOU hate them because they refuse to tell the LIES that you and Russia want to hear and push since you are a TRAITOR
You are a LIAR this is STILL being looked at by the Intelligence community to SEE if it is Russian disinformation since it is CLASSIC Russian disinformation to put fake info on a compute
YOU dont care if its true because YOU are a TRAITOR and you LOVE to psh russian Military Intelligence propaganda
19 Oct 2020 2:38 pm
So you admit that he has it, but he hasn't released it yet.Termin8tor » 19 Oct 2020, 2:16 pm » wrote: ↑Wow, what specific Russian disinformation has he gotten?Misty » 19 Oct 2020, 1:38 pm » wrote: ↑This time Trump's personal attorney is trotting around the globe looking for Russian disinformation and bringing it directly back to Trump.
Quote it.
You can't, because he hasn't released it, so you're lying.
Neither the FBI, nor any news outlet has verified that the Hunter Biden emails are 1. authentic or 2. haven't been tampered with.
Trump was warned by his own intel people not to trust any information that Rudy brought him because Rudy was the target of a Russian intelligence operation.
He was caught on intercepted communications, that showed that he was interacting with people tied to Russian intelligence during a December 2019 trip to Ukraine.
Last September, the U.S. Treasury Department sanctioned a man named Andriy Derkach for allegedly running an “influence campaign” against Joe Biden, calling the Ukrainian “an active Russian agent for over a decade” who has maintained “close connections with Russian intelligence services.”
Rudy was meeting with Derkach, a known Russian agent.
19 Oct 2020 2:43 pm
All I said was that the Times got it right about how much money he owed, because he confirmed that himself.duck615 » 19 Oct 2020, 2:27 pm » wrote: ↑Is there solid proof that someone saw his taxes? Yes or NoMisty » 19 Oct 2020, 2:25 pm » wrote: ↑So....first you said that he didn't admit that he owed the money, and now you say that he broke no laws by owing the money.
Move the goalpost much?
How would they know that if they hadn't seen his returns?
I'm not playing your little game of verbal gymnastics.
As soon as I prove one point, you just change the question.
Buh bye.
20 Oct 2020 11:30 am
Misty » 19 Oct 2020, 11:40 am » wrote: ↑ New York Post Published Hunter Biden Report Amid Newsroom Doubts
Some reporters withheld their bylines and questioned the credibility of an article that made the tabloid’s front page on Wednesday.
The New York Post’s front-page article about Hunter Biden on Wednesday was written mostly by a staff reporter who refused to put his name on it, two Post employees said.
Bruce Golding, a reporter at the Rupert Murdoch-owned tabloid since 2007, did not allow his byline to be used because he had concerns over the article’s credibility, the two Post employees said, speaking on the condition of anonymity out of fear of retaliation.
Coming late in a heated presidential campaign, the article suggested that Joseph R. Biden Jr. had used his position to enrich his son Hunter when he was vice president.
The Post based the story on photos and documents the paper said it had taken from the hard drive of a laptop purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden.
Many Post staff members questioned whether the paper had done enough to verify the authenticity of the hard drive’s contents, said five people with knowledge of the tabloid’s inner workings.
Staff members also had concerns about the reliability of its sources and its timing, the people said.
The article named two sources: Stephen K. Bannon, the former adviser to President Trump now facing federal fraud charges, who was said to have made the paper aware of the hard drive last month; and Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, who was said to have given the paper “a copy” of the hard drive on Oct. 11.
Mr. Giuliani said he chose The Post because “either nobody else would take it, or if they took it, they would spend all the time they could to try to contradict it before they put it out.”
Top editors met on Oct. 11 to discuss how to use the material provided by Mr. Giuliani.
The group included the tabloid veteran Colin Allan, known as Col; Stephen Lynch, The Post’s editor in chief; and Michelle Gotthelf, the digital editor in chief, according to a person with knowledge of the meeting.
Mr. Allan, who was The Post’s editor in chief from 2001 to 2016 and returned last year as an adviser, urged his colleagues to move quickly, the person said.
As deadline approached, editors pressed staff members to add their bylines to the story — and at least one aside from Mr. Golding refused, two Post journalists said.
A Post spokeswoman had no comment on how the article was written or edited.
Headlined “BIDEN SECRET E-MAILS,” the article appeared Wednesday with two bylines: Emma-Jo Morris, a deputy politics editor who joined the paper after four years at the Murdoch-owned Fox News, and Gabrielle Fonrouge, a Post reporter since 2014.
Ms. Morris did not have a bylined article in The Post before Wednesday, a search of its website showed.
She arrived at the tabloid in April after working as an associate producer on Sean Hannity’s Fox News show, according to her LinkedIn profile.
Her Instagram account, which was set to private on Wednesday, included photos of her posing with the former Trump administration members Mr. Bannon and Sarah Huckabee Sanders, as well as Roger J. Stone Jr., a friend and former campaign adviser to Mr. Trump.
(In July, the president commuted the sentence of Mr. Stone on seven felonies.)
Ms. Fonrouge had little to do with the reporting or writing of the article, said three people with knowledge of how it was prepared.
She learned that her byline was on the story only after it was published, the people said.
The article relied on documents purportedly taken from the hard drive to suggest that the elder Mr. Biden, as vice president, had directed American foreign policy in Ukraine to benefit his son, a former board member of Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company.
The article also suggested that the elder Mr. Biden had met with a Burisma adviser, Vadym Pozharskyi.
On Wednesday, a Biden campaign spokesman said that Mr. Biden’s official schedules showed no meeting between the former vice president and the adviser.
Last month, two Republican-led Senate committees investigating the matter said they had found no evidence of wrongdoing by the former vice president.
“The senior editors at The Post made the decision to publish the Biden files after several days’ hard work established its merit,” Mr. Allan said in an email.
The New York Times, The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal have reported that they could not independently verify the data in the Post article, which included hedging language, referring at one point to an email “allegedly sent” to Hunter Biden.
“The story was vetted and The Post stands by its reporting,” a Post spokeswoman said in a statement.
They're running on Hunter and Hillary's emails...because they cannot find anything crazy on V President Biden!
20 Oct 2020 12:11 pm
Last time it was her emails and this time it's his son's emails.annLee » 20 Oct 2020, 11:30 am » wrote: ↑They're running on Hunter and Hillary's emails...because they cannot find anything crazy on V President Biden!
20 Oct 2020 12:15 pm
Termin8tor » 20 Oct 2020, 10:30 am » wrote: ↑That has absolutely nothing to do with Hunter Biden's laptop.Last September, the U.S. Treasury Department sanctioned a man named Andriy Derkach for allegedly running an “influence campaign” against Joe Biden, calling the Ukrainian “an active Russian agent for over a decade” who has maintained “close connections with Russian intelligence services.”
And Rudy himself said months ago that he wasn't present the extensive documentation as factual.
He gave it to the FBI and the Justice Dept to do so.
So what's the problem? None at all, except that Democrat psychopaths need to destroy another good man's integrity with zero evidence to do so.
Andriy Derkach is an independent member of Ukraine’s parliament who has caught Giuliani’s eye by pushing for his own government to investigate former vice president Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden.
[....]
Derkach’s name is a big one in Ukraine. A story about him might have even helped sparked that country’s 2004 Orange Revolution. That story involved a murder plot that implicated his father.
The story is from 2000, and it suggested the younger Derkach could be the “Ukrainian Putin.”
[...]
The elder Derkach, a former KGB officer, was never charged with wrongdoing.
Now his son, who attended the Dzerzhinsky Higher School of the KGB in Moscow and formerly belonged to a pro-Russian political party, is working with Giuliani to try to affect another major election, this one is in the United States, four years after the real Putin interfered in one.
The murder story involving the ‘Ukrainian Putin,' who met with Rudy Giuliani.
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