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Hey, nice job at arguing about minor rhetorical differences, moonbat.Facts are irrelevant to you.Lies the Democrat Talking Point Liar who ignored a thread filled with facts all but proving that Clinton is a rapist.Who ignored threads filled with facts proving that Clinton is a serial felon.Who ignored threads filled with facts proving that Clinton committed many impeachable acts.

Lies the Democrat Talking Point Liar who ignored a thread filled with facts all but proving that Clinton is a rapist.Who ignored threads filled with facts proving that Clinton is a serial felon.Who ignored threads filled with facts proving that Clinton committed many impeachable acts.But didn't ignore the fact that Clinton presided over 8 years of continual job & GDP growth, after rescuing the economy from the Reagan/Bush disaster.

But didn't ignore the fact that Clinton presided over 8 years of continual job & GDP growth, after rescuing the economy from the Reagan/Bush disaster. Look who shows up to tell a lie.Clinton didn't have to rescue anything, liar. The economy was growing at roughly a 3.5% rate the year before he took office.Reagan had nothing to do with the recession. Bush did to some degree for working with Dems and largely reversing Reagan's policies.I've never denied that he was president during a period of strong growth, just that it wasn't his policies that brought it about. About the only policy Clinton got was his huge tax hike that slowed economic growth almost by half.What created the strong economy?It was GATT, NAFTA.The plummeting of long term interest rates and huge rise in the stock market that began literally the day after Repubs took over Congress.Welfare Reform.And Repub tax cuts, in particular the cap gains cut, i.e. a tax cut "for the rich."Bleat away, imbecile. Edited by RichClem, 11 February 2012 - 01:53 PM.

RichClem, on 11 March 2011 - 03:48 PM, said:"Meanwhile The Chosen One and Democrats are running a $1.6 trillion deficit and refusing to cut spending." Meanwhile, Congressional Republicans are running a $1.6 trillion deficit and refusing to restore taxes on the rich to their NORMAL levels of most of the past 95 years (70-94%) And endangering US National Security in the process, all the while, ludicrously trying to pass themselves off as Conservative. In my avatar, it looks like Eisenhower wants to do a Patton job on them - and get out of his jeep and give them a SLAP. How are the REPUBLICANS running a $1.6Trillion deficit? Your boy is the one that's signs the budget into law.

Yeah, I heard about it.A teleprompter is used for speeches, usually in front of large crowds, as part of a professional appearance.Not for elementary school visitsI hate to burst your bubble Chuck, but the Conservative magazine The Weekly Standard debunked that one.Did Obama Use a Teleprompter to Talk to Elementary School Children?The conservative blogosphere is buzzing this morning about news that President Obama relied on a teleprompter for his remarks to students at the Graham Road Elementary School in Falls Church, Virginia. And it would surely be funny if he had. But it doesn't appear that he did. Obama held two separate sessions at the school -- the first with students and a second for the media. And while he did use two teleprompters for his comments to the media he did not use them for his discussion with the students.The White House website offers this picture of Obama and Education Secretary Arne Duncan talking to 6th graders from the school. No teleprompters in sight. http://www.weeklysta...school-childrenCan't trust those right wing blogs.Maybe he should do what the last guy did, and have someone feed him his lines through an earpiece.

Maybe he should do what the last guy did, and have someone feed him his lines through an earpiece.Oh yeah, you'd need a cable the size of an electrical cord to run a little audio, right? Heck, maybe he had internet access and a laptop hidden in his jacket.And a coffee maker, in case he got drowsy.I mean, as long as you're being paranoid and utterly ridiculous.Yes, those devious Bush handlers ran the feed in a way so obvious everyone would see it.Is there a single Democrat Talking Point Lie you don't have down by heart? Edited by RichClem, 12 February 2012 - 10:09 AM.

I hate to burst your bubble Chuck, but the Conservative magazine The Weekly Standard debunked that one.The picture is realJust because their's another picture taken before they set up the teleprompters were set up doesn't mean they weren't set up.It just proves he couldn't handle it, even in a grade school, without them.

What's more, try reading ALL the words. I said nothing about him needing it for the students, I just pointed out that there's a big difference between giving a major speech in front of thousands and an informal gathering in a small classroom. And you come back with a picture of W's bullet proof vest and say it's and earpiece? You gotta be kidding,,,,

MistyBlue, on 12 February 2012 - 01:16 AM, said:I hate to burst your bubble Chuck, but the Conservative magazine The Weekly Standard debunked that one.The picture is realJust because their's another picture taken before they set up the teleprompters were set up doesn't mean they weren't set up.It just proves he couldn't handle it, even in a grade school, without them.Ever notice that the sources Lying Leftists cite rarely back up their claims? From little Miss Marxist's source:The conservative blogosphere is buzzing this morning about news that President Obama relied on a teleprompter for his remarks to students at the Graham Road Elementary School in Falls Church, Virginia. And it would surely be funny if he had. But it doesn't appear that he did.So yes, on ONE occasion Obama didn't use a teleprompter in front of students. What about all the rest of the times he's spoken to other classes?I honestly don't know, but nothing is "debunked" except for that one occasion.And you come back with a picture of W's bullet proof vest and say it's and earpiece?You gotta be kidding,,,,I cannot recall a single Democrat Talking Point Lie she hasn't unquestioningly regurgitated, no kidding.If she's not paid by the DNC, she sure as heck ought to be.

The picture is realJust because their's another picture taken before they set up the teleprompters were set up doesn't mean they weren't set up.It just proves he couldn't handle it, even in a grade school, without them.I never said the picture was fake, but there's more than one picture.It seems you completely ignored what the Weekly Standard said.Obama held two separate sessions at the school -- the first with students and a second for the media. And while he did use two teleprompters for his comments to the media he did not use them for his discussion with the students.Your post made it sound like he used a teleprompter to address the students. He did not.This is the picture of him talking to the students.No teleptompter in sight.And here is the pic of him addressing the press about his education policies, with teleprompters.I guess you're going to believe what you want to believe.Since the invention of the teleprompter, every president has used one, but if you want to make yourself look ridiculous by trying to say that a man who was voted president of the Harvard Law Review is stupid, then I guess that's your right.What's more, try reading ALL the words.I did. You said:Yeah, I heard about it.A teleprompter is used for speeches, usually in front of large crowds, as part of a professional appearance.Not for elementary school visits.That implies to me that you're saying that he needed a teleprompter to talk to the kids.I guess now you're going to pee on my leg and tell me it's raining, by telling me that, that is not what you were trying to imply when you characterized it as just an 'elementary school visit'?I said nothing about him needing it for the students, I just pointed out that there's a big difference between giving a major speech in front of thousands and an informal gathering in a small classroom.Well as you can see, he didn't use the teleprompter in the classroom.He only used it when he was giving a policy address to the press in another room, which was the actual purpose of the visit.I guess you could call that a professional appearance.It wasn't an informal gathering. He went there that day with his Education Secretary to lay out his education policy (Race To The Top) to the press and therefore to the country.So I guess you could call that a 'major speech in front of thousands' or millions in this case.You have every right to disagree with Obama on policy issues, but this **** about him not being able to speak without a teleprompter is no more credible than the Birther issue, and just as silly IMO.Snopes debunked this right wing myth long ago:Obama Uses Teleprompters To Talk To Elementary School KidsAnd you come back with a picture of W's bullet proof vest and say it's and earpiece?You gotta be kidding,,,,Actually yes, I was kidding. It's called a joke.Bullet proof vest? LMAOThat's a new one on me.

Ever notice that the sources Lying Leftists cite rarely back up their claims? From little Miss Marxist's source:The conservative blogosphere is buzzing this morning about news that President Obama relied on a teleprompter for his remarks to students at the Graham Road Elementary School in Falls Church, Virginia. And it would surely be funny if he had. But it doesn't appear that he did.Seems to me that my source (The Weekly Standard) backed it up perfectly. Obama did not use a teleprompter to address the students.So yes, on ONE occasion Obama didn't use a teleprompter in front of students. What about all the rest of the times he's spoken to other classes?I honestly don't know, but nothing is "debunked" except for that one occasion.So now I guess that you're going to cite the sources that prove that Obama has used a teleprompter on many other occasions, when he's spoken in classrooms.Is that right Clem?Oh, I forgot......you've cited them many times in the past, right? First you said that my source did not back up my claim that Obama did not use a teleprompter to address the students, and then you say, "So yes, on ONE occasion Obama didn't use a teleprompter in front of students."So which is it Puss?I guess my using the Weekly Standard as a source really confused you, huh?You don't know how to deal with it.

Ever notice that the sources Lying Leftists cite rarely back up their claims? From little Miss Marxist's source:Seems to me that my source (The Weekly Standard) backed it up perfectly. Obama did not use a teleprompter to address the students.Yes, one time at one school, which proves nothing about what he uses or doesn't use the other times he speaks to students.So your claim that you "debunked" the allegation is an overblown joke.So now I guess that you're going to cite the sources that prove that Obama has used a teleprompter on many other occasions, when he's spoken in classrooms.Is that right Clem?Oh, I forgot......you've cited them many times in the past, right? First you said that my source did not back up my claim that Obama did not use a teleprompter to address the students, and then you say, "So yes, on ONE occasion Obama didn't use a teleprompter in front of students."So which is it Puss?I guess my using the Weekly Standard as a source really confused you, huh?You don't know how to deal with it.As I said, I don't know if he uses them elsewhere, just that you haven't proved much of anything, so if I haven't made any claim, I don't have to prove anything.Clear English and logic really confuse you, huh.

Yes, one time at one school, which proves nothing about what he uses or doesn't use the other times he speaks to students.So your claim that you "debunked" the allegation is an overblown joke.So, for people who can actually think, the idea that Obama always relies on tele-prompters *IS* debunked.For idiots, like you, no amount of evidence would convince you otherwise because it's inconsistent with what you want to believe.

I hate to burst your bubble Chuck, but the Conservative magazine The Weekly Standard debunked that one.Can't trust those right wing blogs.Maybe he should do what the last guy did, and have someone feed him his lines through an earpiece.Is that a bulge due to a bulletproof vest?On edit: Sorry Chuck. I didn't read your comment before I posted. I guess GMTA.

Speaking of flying monkeys, what does little Miss Marxist think about Obama's racist, anti-semitic, anti-American, Marxist/Communist spiritual adviser?I have no problem with Obama's church or his pastor.Yeah, Miss Monkey not only has wings, she's breaking the sound barrier.

Well as you can see, he didn't use the teleprompter in the classroom.This is a classroomThe blackboard gives it away, (and the globe, teaching aids, etc.)This is the picture of him talking to the students.No teleptompter in sight.Looks like the white guy is talking to the students, calling on them, etc. Obama is sitting there with his hands in his lap like they're playing the National Anthem or something.

Is that a bulge due to a bulletproof vest?That's what Chuck says.Beats me. First time I've heard that Bush wore a bulletproof vest.FreeRepublic had a post that was supposed to be from The Hill, that said that Bush wears a bulletproof vest most of the time when appearing in public.However when I clicked on the link to The Hill I got this, so there's no confirmation of that. I find it strange that he would wear one during presidential debates, where the audience is screened and goes through security, yet he wouldn't wear one out in the open at let's say.....the Olympics.....in a foreign country?Or out in the middle of a baseball stadium?Maybe the Secret Service got some info that John Kerry was going to try and shoot him during the debate.

[size="5"][/size]That's what Chuck says.Beats me. First time I've heard that Bush wore a bulletproof vest.FreeRepublic had a post that was supposed to be from The Hill, that said that Bush wears a bulletproof vest most of the time when appearing in public.However when I clicked on the link to The Hill I got this, so there's no confirmation of that. I find it strange that he would wear one during presidential debates, where the audience is screened and goes through security, yet he wouldn't wear one out in the open at let's say.....the Olympics.....in a foreign country?Or out in the middle of a baseball stadium?Maybe the Secret Service got some info that John Kerry was going to try and shoot him during the debate. President Obama Wears Bullet-Resistant Suit at InauguralBy Jose Fermoso Email Author January 21, 2009 | 3:00 am Barack Obama had more than the Presidential beast limo taking care of his safety yesterday. According to some reports, he wore a suit made by a clothier specializing in bullet-resistant clothing during the inauguration ceremonies. While no one from the U.S. Secret Service have yet to mention any details about the garments structure, some are speculating it may have come from the line by Colombian designer Miguel Caballero. As we noted last year, Caballero is well known for his super tough but flexible and business appropriate clothing (see pic at right), such as the $7,500 polo shirt that can stop a shot from a 9-mm revolver. http://www.wired.com...resident-oba-1/Does Obama wear a bullet proof vest? The Secret Service recommends that President Obama wear a bullet proof vest in public and he is likely to follow their advice.http://www.chacha.co...llet-proof-vestPersonally, I hope obama wears one to bed even. The last thing we need is President Biden. LOL

MistyBlue, on 12 February 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:Well as you can see, he didn't use the teleprompter in the classroom.This is a classroomThe blackboard gives it away, (and the globe, teaching aids, etc.)You wanna play semantics now? I meant the classroom with the kids in it. You said, "A teleprompter is used for speeches, usually in front of large crowds, as part of a professional appearance.Not for elementary school visits."Obama went to that school that day with the Secretary of Education to deliver a policy speech to the press, and ergo to the whole country. That is a professional appearance. The press was set up in that room, which to me looks a lot larger than a normal classroom. Either that or they cleared all the desks out to make room for the reporters.The visit to the small classroom where the kids were, was just an added perk for the kids and an opportunity for a good photo-op.The White House website says:President Obama announces a proposed $1.3 billion investment in Race to the Top, a program to encourage innovation and excellence in education through competitive grants, at an event at Graham Road Elementary School in Falls Church, VA.http://www.whitehous...ducation-reformLooks like the white guy is talking to the students, calling on them, etc. Obama is sitting there with his hands in his lap like they're playing the National Anthem or something.I'm amazed that you can tell all that from a still photo.The white guy is Secretary of Education, Arne Duncan.Oh look, Obama was actually shaking hands and talking to the kids, and without a teleprompter.If you Google 'Obama uses teleprompter to speak to school kids' you'll find a slew of right wing websites trying to make it look like something it's not.Even the Weekly Standard called them on it.I thought you were better than that. Edited by MistyBlue, 12 February 2012 - 08:40 PM.

You have every right to disagree with Obama on policy issues, but this **** about him not being able to speak without a teleprompter is no more credible than the Birther issue, and just as silly IMO.Now would be a good time to show us how you said the same thing about Libs saying Bush was an idiot because of the way he pronounced "nuclear".Face it.That picture is a perfect illustration of Obama's elitist reputation. (and Liberal hypocrisy)He causes a school to empty a classroom to provide a photo-op for what was basically a press release sigifying another one of his failed policies,,,,,and you guys are b*tching about the photoLOLThat's what Chuck says.Beats me. First time I've heard that Bush wore a bulletproof vest.You need to get out more.Everybody knew that