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Where's the, snicker, "head ball breaker?"Hiding under her bed?I have written likely 100, 200 pages exposing her lies.Not that you commented on one single word of substance that I wrote.Just pick one of the "Volumes" above and tell me which point in it is a lie.Clem is also a fan of Augusto Pinochet.But speaking of flying monkeys, Obama wanted Welfare recipients to be a crucial base of the Democrat Party. Heck, it already is, but he wanted to expand it, which is why he destroyed the economy and refuses to reverse course.SPEECH: Obama viewed welfare recipients as 'majority coalition'...September 24, 2012The Daily Caller has obtained a complete audio recording of the October 19, 1998 Loyola College forum on community organizing and policymaking during which a future President Barack Obama said he favored the government redistribution of wealth. The audio demonstrates the context of that remark and reveals other far-left positions that Obama held as a state senator.Those positions encompass issues as wide-ranging as gun control, universal health care and welfare reform. Obama also said he viewed welfare recipients and the working poor as a majority coalition that could be mobilized to help advance progressive policies and elect their champions.....Loyola College refused repeated requests from TheDC for a copy of the full one-hour and 42-minute videotape from 1998.http://dailycaller.c.../#ixzz27VKmVENd

No way. The clown stays. It gives people something to focus on while I E-pound their weak arguments like wack-a-mole. "I don't care if you schooled me hard you're just a clown!" ROFL.....speaking of clowns.......

Good to see you MistyBlue. Do YOU have any idea HOW many times I've been called a clown because of my avatar? Your avatar has nothing to do with it!

Str8tEdge, on 22 September 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:Do YOU have any idea HOW many times I've been called a clown because of my avatar?Your avatar has nothing to do with it! I wonder if Clem has gotten fitted for his straight jacket yet?He must be melting down right around now. Edited by MistyBlue, 25 September 2012 - 01:44 PM.

I wonder if Clem has gotten fitted for his straight jacket yet?He must be melting down right around now.He's waiting for it to all turn around and come out consistent with his many, many, many predictions.I told him not to try his Jean Dixon routine, again. But, does Clem listen to me?Does Clem listen to anyone?

Does Clem listen to anyone?His usual right wing sources seem to be turning against Romney, so I'm not sure who he's listening to now.Maybe he listens to Rush, who says the polls are fixed. Edited by MistyBlue, 26 September 2012 - 12:17 PM.

His usual right wing sources seem to be turning against Romney, so I'm not sure who he's listening to now.Maybe he listens to Rush, who says the polls are fixed. He hasn't been here for awhile. Maybe he's depressed, again.

He hasn't been here for awhile. Maybe he's depressed, again.Poor baby.

Joe Scarborough's reaction to a clip of Mitt Romney on "Morning Joe" said it all on Tuesday. Co-host Mika Brzezinski was discussing reports that Romney would be appearing with Paul Ryan more often to drum up excitement for his campaign. She replayed a clip of the candidate trying to get a crowd to chant his name. Scarborough who has been a vocal critic of Romney could only laugh and cover his face after watching the clip. "Oh, sweet Jesus," he said. Meanwhile, an amused Ed Rendell observed the spectacle with a wide grin. Scarborough followed up with a "Hail Mary" prayer, and a reference to the end of "Godfather II" when Fredo gets shot in the back of his head.

FLORIDA GOP FIRES ROMNEY CONSULTANT'S VOTER REGISTRATION FIRM AFTER FRAUDULENT FORMS REPORTED IN PALM BEACH COUNTYFirm owned by notorious GOP operative Nathan Sproul, accused of destroying Democratic registration forms in years past, hired 'at request of RNC', still operating in several key swing states...The Republican Party of Florida's top recipient of 2012 expenditures, a firm by the name of Strategic Allied Consulting, was just fired on Tuesday night, after more than 100 apparently fraudulent voter registration forms were discovered to have been turned in by the group to the Palm Beach County, FL Supervisor of Elections. The firm appears to be another shell company of Nathan Sproul, a longtime, notorious Republican operative, hired year after year by GOP Presidential campaigns, despite being accused of shredding Democratic voter registration forms in a number of states over several past elections. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, Strategic Allied Consulting has been paid some $667,000 this year by the FL GOP, presumably to run its voter registration campaigns in the state. That number, however, does not account for another identical payment made in August. The Palm Beach Post is reporting tonight that the firm received "more than $1.3 million" from the Republican Party of Florida "to register new voters." The firm is not only tied to the FL GOP, but also to the Mitt Romney Campaign, which hired Sproul as a political consultant late last year, despite years of fraud allegations against his organizations in multiple states.Read MoreWant more?Video Appears to Reveal GOP Voter Registration Worker Screening Out Dems in ColoradoOver the weekend, this disturbing video of a voter registration worker at a Safeway grocery story in El Paso County, Colorado went somewhat viral...The short video shows a young woman attempting to register voters outside the grocery store, but asking first: "Would you vote for Romney or Obama?" When the unidentified woman shooting the video then asks the registration worker who she works for, the young lady admits, "I'm actually trying to register voters for a particular party, because...we're out here in support of Romney, actually." Then the woman asks her who is paying her for this work and the young lady, after a moment's pause, says, "We're working for the county clerk's office." The woman is, understandably, aghast at the registration worker's response and asks again incredulously, "You're working for the county clerk's office?!" "I believe so. Yes," replies the worker, shortly before the video ends. As it turns out, the registration worker was not working for the El Paso County Clerk's office, according to responses sent to The BRAD BLOG by the CO Secretary of State's office as well as the El Paso County Clerk. Instead, she was a paid employee of the state Republican Committee, as confirmed by the local GOP Chairman.Read More and Watch the VideoAll this whining by Republicans about rampant voter fraud, which they can't prove, but just know is occurring, is nothing but a red herring to distract us from who is really trying to steal the election.

Paul Ryan Quietly Requested Obamacare CashRepublican vice-presidential candidate Paul Ryan is barnstorming the country, promising to repeal every provision of the Affordable Care Act if the Romney-Ryan ticket is elected. But a letter he wrote to the Obama administration may undermine this message. On December 10, 2010, Ryan penned a letter to the Department of Health and Human Services to recommend a grant application for the Kenosha Community Health Center, Inc to develop a new facility in Racine, Wisconsin, an area within Ryans district. The proposed new facility, the Belle City Neighborhood Health Center, will serve both the preventative and comprehensive primary healthcare needs of thousands of new patients of all ages who are currently without healthcare, Ryan wrote.The grant Ryan requested was funded directly by the Affordable Care Act, better known simply as healthcare reform or Obamacare. The letter, among several obtained by The Nation and The Investigative Fund through a Freedom of Information Act request, is a stark reminder that even the most ardent opponents of Obamacare privately acknowledge many of the laws benefits. Federally funded health clinics have long provided a broad range of vital medical, dental and mental health services to underprivileged communities across the country, regardless of a persons ability to pay. To meet the goal of expanding coverage, the Affordable Care Act provides for a sweeping expansion of such clinics, including $9.5 billion for operating costs to existing community health centers and $1.5 billion for new construction. In public, Ryan has cultivated a profile as one of health reforms most outspoken critics. He savages the Affordable Care Act as an example of Washingtons reckless spending spree, as irresponsible, and has warned repeatedly that it would place the federal government squarely in the middle of health-care decisions. Explaining his philosophical difference with Democrats, Ryan told ABC News this summer that he would seek to repeal the entire law because healthcare rights come from nature and God, not the government. He expressed dismay that the Supreme Court upheld the law during the interview. Despite Ryans quiet support for an Affordable Care Act clinic grant in his district, the Wisconsin congressmans promise to repeal Obamacare would undermine the laws five-year plan to rapidly grow the health clinic system in America by withdrawing the necessary funds. The so-called Ryan Budget plan would also decimate other federal support for health clinics, according to an analysis by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.Before Republicans broadly agreed upon a strategy of opposing any health reform proposal embraced by President Obama, the party once supported access to healthcare using clinics. The Bush administration requested and received modest increases in federal health clinic funding over the years. Now, however, the GOP has made opposing the entire Affordable Care Act a central plank in its platform, and virtually no lawmakers have been willing to praise it while speaking to the media.[...]An outline of the health reform replacement legislation advanced by Mitt Romney and Ryan, mostly centered on proposals to gut state and federal health insurance regulations by allowing insurance providers to sell coverage across state lines, makes no mention of health clinics. In addition to undercutting his political message about health reform, the letter may also add to an emerging narrative that Ryan has a double standard when it comes to critiquing major Obama policy achievements. Shortly after Romney announced that Ryan would be joining him on the Republican ticket this year, the Boston Globe revisited a story showing how Ryan quietly lobbied the Obama administration for stimulus grants. Ryan voted against the proposal and denounced it to the press without disclosing his requests for stimulus cash. Ryan first denied responsibility for the stimulus grant requests, but later confessed that his office had sent the letters. Republicans have praised Ryan for his willingness to embrace unpopular cuts to government programs and for being a consistent conservative. The fact that Ryan has privately pleaded with the Obama administration for government grants from the presidents signature policy accomplishments, however, could unravel that conceit.UPDATE: Brendan Buck, a spokesperson for the Mitt Romney campaign, responded to this story by claiming that this "grant program was created by President Bush, not Obamacare. This... type of misinformation is what you get from gotcha reporting on liberal blogs." Ryan's letter directly requests money from the HRSA-11-017 New Access Points program announced in August of 2010. This New Access Points grant program that Ryan requested money from is funded fully by the Affordable Care Act, a fact made clear on multiple government websites. The claim that Bush "created" this program is also unfounded. Federally-funded health centers were created through the Public Health Services Act, legislation signed into law by President Franklin Roosevelt in 1944. New Access Point grants have existed well before the Bush administration came to office.

It seems like Todd Akin thinks that employers should be able to pay women less.I guess that would go for minorities also.GOP Congressman-wannbe-senator Todd Akin was asked why he voted against the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act at a town hall on Thursday.AUDIENCE MEMBER: You voted against the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. Why do you think it is okay for a woman to be paid less for doing the same work as a man? AKIN: Well, first of all, the premise of your question is that I'm making that particular distinction. I believe in free enterprise. I don't think the government should be telling people what you pay and what you don't pay. I think it's about freedom. If somebody wants to hire somebody and they agree on a salary, that's fine, however it wants to work. So, the government sticking its nose into all kinds of things has gotten us into huge trouble.It's been illegal to discriminate against women by paying them less since 1960s. The Ledbetter Act just made it easier for women to sue if they find out they're being discriminated against.Note how in this case "the government sticking its nose into all kinds of things" is not a good thing, according to Akin, but when it comes to women's vaginas more intrusive government is just fine.Link with video.

....here in florida, the republican voter fraud scandal is resulting in a planned review of tens of 1000's of voter registrations. And there are ties to Romney. http://www.salon.com/2012/09/26/fla_voter_fraud_charge_has_ties_to_romney/

Whooops! Looks like the GOP has it's own ACORN problem.Voter Registration Problems Widening In FloridaTALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) - What first appeared to be an isolated problem in one Florida county has now spread statewide, with election officials in nine counties informing prosecutors or state election officials about questionable voter registration forms filled out on behalf of the Republican Party of Florida.State Republican officials already have fired the vendor it had hired to register voters, and took the additional step of filing an election fraud complaint against the company, Strategic Allied Consulting, with state officials. That complaint was handed over Friday to state law-enforcement authorities. A spokesman for Florida's GOP said the matter was being treated seriously. "We are doing what we can to find out how broad the scope is," said Brian Burgess, the spokesman. Florida is the battleground state where past election problems led to the chaotic recount that followed the 2000 presidential election. The Florida Democratic Party called on the state to "revoke" the ability of state Republicans to continue to register voters while the investigation continues. Oct. 9 is the deadline to register to vote in the Nov. 6 presidential election. "It is clear that the Republican Party of Florida does not have the institutional controls in place to be trusted as a third-party, voter registration organization," said Scott Arceneaux, executive director of the Florida Democratic Party. The Republican Party of Florida has paid Strategic Allied Consulting more than $1.3 million, and the Republican National Committee used the group for work in Nevada, North Carolina, Colorado and Virginia. The company said earlier this week that it was cooperating with elections officials in Florida. It initially said the suspect forms were turned in by one person, who has been fired.Read more: http://www.myfoxny.c...a#ixzz27sfbehAAOne person? LOL Looks that one person is covering an awful lot of ground.And then there's this:Colorado girl registering only Romney voters tied to the same firm dumped by the RNC over fraud.DENVER The Colorado Republican Party has terminated its contract with a firm hired to run voter registration and get-out-the-vote operations here after allegations of fraud, FOX31 Denver has confirmed. The move came at the recommendation of the Republican National Committee, leading to the termination of contracts with Strategic Allied Consulting in seven swing states, following an investigation of voter fraud by the company in Florida.FOX31 Denver has confirmed that the young woman seen registering voters outside a Colorado Springs grocery store in a YouTube video, in which she admits to trying to only register voters who support Mitt Romney, was indeed a contract employee of (Nathan) Sprouls company (Strategic Allied Consulting).Im actually trying to register people for a particular party, the girl tells a woman in the video, which has been viewed more than 417,000 times. Because were out here in support of Romney, actually. Strategic Allied Consulting was hired to do voter registration drives in Florida, Virginia, Colorado, North Carolina and Nevada, and had been planning get-out-the-vote drives in Ohio and Wisconsin, Sproul told the Los Angeles Times Thursday. Reports from the Federal Election Commission show that Sprouls other company, Lincoln Strategy Group, has been paid more than $80,000 by the Romney campaign to help register voters between November 2011 and March 2012 during the GOP primary season. Sproul told the Times he formed Strategic Allied Consulting at the request of the RNC for publicitys sake, given past negative media coverage of Lincoln stemming from past allegations going back to 2004, when employees in Nevada and Oregon signed up Democrats but threw out their forms instead of turning them in. Sproul has also been linked to signature fraud this election cycle in his home state of Arizona where he was working on a ballot initiative that would allow the state to nullify any federal laws it finds to be unconstitutional.http://kdvr.com/2012...to-voter-fraud/

Pennsylvania Judge Rules Poll Workers Can Still Ask For IDA Pennsylvania judge on Tuesday issued a ruling on the states voting law that will allow poll workers to ask for photo identification but will still allow voters to cast a ballot without subsequently having to show an ID.The ruling strikes down two provisions of the law that would have required voters to without identification to show their IDs within six days of voting or appear before the county board of elections. The state will also still be allowed to educate voters about the new identification requirement.The preliminary injunction by Judge Robert Simpson only applies to the election this November. Simpson said he would schedule a trial on the merits of the law at a future date.While celebrating the partial victory, civil rights groups are still worried that having the state ask for photo identification could create chaos at the polls unless Pennsylvania properly educates poll workers. The NAACP announced it would work to ensure that poll workers do not wrongly enforce the law, and that all counties are monitored on Election Day.Civil rights groups also worry that voters who believe they need to show photo ID will simply stay alway from the polls. Plaintiffs in the case had argued that asking for identification was a form of disenfranchisement, an argument Simpson specifically rejected. I hate to say it, but its a potential issue. Theres a lot of confusion this election cycle, Katherine Culliton-Gonzlez of the Advancement Project told TPM. This has been in the news. People have been told they need ID. Theyve heard all sorts of arguments like only irresponsible people wouldnt have ID, she said. We want every voter in Pennsylvania to know they can vote without an ID.Wendy Weiser of the Brennan Center called the ruling a significant but not perfect victory and said she worried confused voters could be disenfranchised.A skeptic might say that the only reason to ask [for ID] is with the expectation that many people wouldnt understand that its just practice and people will be turned away, Weiser told TPM. I certainly hope that isnt what happens, but theres certainly a concern.Simpson previously refused to block the voter ID law despite his sympathy for those burdened by the voter ID requirement. But Pennsylvanias Supreme Court overturned that ruling and ordered Simpson to issue an injunction blocking the law from going into effect unless the state could prove it was providing liberal access to photo identification and that there would be no voter disenfranchisement on Election Day. While the state claimed it adjusted their policies to make it easier for voters to obtain photo identification, voters have still run into problems at the states Department of Transportation offices.Pennsylvania passed the voter ID law, considered one of the strictest in the nation, earlier this year without any Democratic votes. The state admitted that thousands of voters didnt have a valid form of state-issued identification that would be allowed under the law. Before the trial, the state admitted it had no evidence of in-person voter fraud, the type of fraud that voter ID laws would prevent.The Justice Department also launched an investigation into whether the law violates the Voting Rights Act, a probe that has been stonewalled by the state.Correction: This post has been updated to show that voters who dont have voter ID will still be allowed to cast a regular ballot in the Nov. 6 election.http://tpmmuckraker....?ref=fpnewsfeed

National Republican Voter Registration Strategy Includes Lying to Potential Voters About 'Taking a Poll' in Order to Screen Out Obama SupportersAnother disturbing revelation from the still-expanding nationwide GOP Voter Registration Fraud Scandal...From Palm Beach to Richmond, from Las Vegas to Portland, it's not a coincidence, it's a coordinated GOP scheme intended to keep Obama supporters from signing up to vote. While a major element of the Republican National Committee's strategy to game the 2012 elections by affecting who gets to vote and who does not has been cut off at the knees in the wake of a criminal election fraud complaint and other late developments in the still-widening GOP Voter Registration Fraud Scandal, a disturbing and abhorrent nationwide GOP voter registration strategy may have also been revealed by it. The coordinated strategy, as evidenced by recent video documentation emerging from a number of key states, includes registration workers screening out Democratic-leaning voters from registration drives in order to keep them from registering. The way it's done: lying to potential registrants about a "voter survey," rather than disclosing that workers are actually there to register voters --- but only Republican-leaning ones. The deceptive tactic has so far been seen this year in several of the five battleground states where the RNC's controversial, and potentially criminal, $3 million registration program was scuttled late last week after fraudulent registration forms were discovered to have been turned in by a shady firm hired by the RNC to sign up Republican voters in Florida and four other states. The BRAD BLOG has also collected evidence suggesting that the dishonest registration tactic also appears to be in use in states where the RNC's firm, Strategic Allied Consulting, is not said to be operating, suggesting that the practice is not just one used by the discredited firm, but, rather, a nationwide voter scheme by the GOP.Questions about the legality of the tactic are emerging as well, though the deplorable ethics of the practice, legal or otherwise, would seem to be beyond dispute. Election officials in the five states where Strategic was paid some $3 million by the RNC to do voter registration, Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Colorado, and Nevada, are now said to be in the process of scrambling to review tens of thousands of new and updated voter registration forms submitted by state Republican Parties, as collected by the firm owned by Nathan Sproul, a long-time, notorious GOP operative and paid political consultant of Mitt Romney's campaign. But the disturbing, and seemingly coordinated, tactic of registration workers instructed to misrepresent themselves in order to screen out potential Democratic voters is coming to light as a separate element of the GOP Voter Registration Fraud Scandal.To date, The BRAD BLOG has documented instances of the phony "polling" tactic being used by Republican voter registration workers in Colorado, Virginia, Nevada, Oregon, and, in years past, Tennessee and Minnesota. Our suspicion at the moment: What we have been able to discover to date is just the tip of the iceberg...Strategic Allied Consulting's 'Voter Survey' Lie

THE GOP'S ACORNRNC Asked Nathan Sproul to Create Shell Companies to Mask PaymentsDon't you just love The Google? Especially the Archives tab in Google News? If you go back in time like I did, you will find an article dated July 5, 2005. It is it juicy and begins:In the months before the 2004 presidential election, a firm called Sproul & Associates launched voter registration drives in at least eight states, most of them swing states. The group--run by Nathan Sproul, former head of the Arizona Christian Coalition and the Arizona Republican Party--had been hired by the Republican National Committee. Sproul got into a bit of trouble last fall when, in certain states, it came out that the firm was playing dirty tricks in order to suppress the Democratic vote: concealing their partisan agenda, tricking Democrats into registering as Republicans, surreptitiously re-registering Democrats and Independents as Republicans, and shredding Democratic registration forms. Team Bush Paid Millions to Nathan Sprouland Tried to Hide ItThe article goes on to explain that the scandal didn't receive much attention before 2004 presidential election. Once the election was over, anybody who brought up Sproul's name and the scandal was brushed off as a conspiracy theorist. And yet the article goes on to do some arithmetic and figures out that the math doesn't add up. It also provides a timeline of how all the information was revealed.Moreover, there are some big surprises buried in the paperwork. It turned out that the RNC paid Sproul not only for their pre-election work, but also paid them for work after the election. According to their Year-End Report, filed on Jan. 28, 2005, the RNC paid Sproul for "Political Consulting" in December--long after all the voter registration drives had ended. (snip) As to why Sproul was being paid in December, and why the dates were changed, one can only speculate. But it may be worth noting that the Ohio recount took place from Dec. 13 through Dec. 28. Team Bush Paid Millions to Nathan Sprouland Tried to Hide ItNothing to see here. Just a conspiracy theory? That was then and this is now. An article in the Los Angeles Times yesterday revealed:Sproul said he created Strategic Allied Consulting at the RNC's request because the party wanted to avoid being publicly linked to the past allegations. The firm was set up at a Virginia address, and Sproul does not show up on the corporate paperwork. "In order to be able to do the job that the state parties were hiring us to do, the [RNC] asked us to do it with a different company's name, so as to not be a distraction from the false information put out in the Internet," Sproul said. The RNC's rapid decision to distance itself comes as Republicans around the country have sought to make voter fraud an issue, in part by pressing for voter identification laws. RNC cuts ties with voter-drive firm accused of fraudIf you go back and read the first article, is it a the conspiracy theory to conclude that in 2005 investigative reporters went back and looked at all the payments to Sproul & Associates for the 2004 election, and learning from past mistakes the RNC decided not to make the same mistake in 2012? There has been a lot of reporting about the company called Strategic Allied Consulting, but perhaps we should dig deeper like Lee Fang at The Nation did.It appears that the Republican Party of California might have its own deal with Sproul, and is also attempting to hide it from the public. As I noted in an update to my post on Wednesday, the California Republican Party has made $430,840 in payments to Grassroots Outreach, LLC this cycle for voter registration. Is this another Sproul shell group? And are they up to the same tactics as before? Lance Williams at California Watch reports that a recent complaint in Riverside County details a number of allegations that someone affiliated with the GOP is deceiving voters to re-register them as Republicans and offering free cigarettes for signatures. Theyre reportedly targeting minorities:One voter complained that his registration was changed to Republican after he signed what he thought was a petition to legalize marijuana. Another said he was told he was signing a petition to lower the price of gasoline, according to the affidavits. Others said they were offered free cigarettes or a job at the polls if they signed some paperwork. Also among the Democrats who said they were involuntarily re-registered as Republicans: two aides to retired U.S. Air Force Maj. Gen. Richard Roth, a Democrat locked in a tight race with Republican Assemblyman Jeff Miller for a state Senate seat. Many of the complainants were Latino or African American. [Emphasis added.]According to this disclosure, Grassroots Outreach shares the same address as Sprouls office in Tempe, Arizona. Craigslist job postings in California use identical language as Sprouls shell company, Strategic Allied Consulting.GOP Fires Controversial Voter Suppression Operative, but Is He Still Playing Dirty Tricks In California?Something tells me that once somebody starts taking the time to search business records, state by state, and look for companies with that same Tempe, Arizona, address, this story is going to become and even bigger headache for Republicans and the RNC.Does this increase the chances of Democrats retaining control of the presidency, the Senate, and more importantly winning back control of the House of Representatives? Remember our new motto: Don't agonize; organize.Link

At Last Nights Debate: Romney Told 27 Myths In 38 MinutesPundits from both sides of the aisle have lauded Mitt Romneys strong debate performance, praising his preparedness and ability to challenge President Obamas policies and accomplishments. But Romney only accomplished this goal by repeatedly misleading viewers. He spoke for 38 minutes of the 90 minute debate and told at least 27 myths: 1) [G]et us energy independent, North American energy independent. That creates about 4 million jobs. Romneys plan for energy independence actually relies heavily on a study that assumes the U.S. continues with fuel efficiency standards set by the Obama administration. For instance, he uses Citigroup research based off the assumption that the United States will continue with strict fuel economy standards that will lower its oil demand. Since he promises to undo the Obama administrations new fuel efficiency standards, he would cut oil consumption savings of 2 million barrels per day by 2025. 2) I dont have a $5 trillion tax cut. I dont have a tax cut of a scale that youre talking about. A Tax Policy Center analysis of Romneys proposal for a 20 percent across-the-board tax cut in all federal income tax rates, eliminating the Alternative Minimum Tax, eliminating the estate tax and other tax reductions, would reduce federal revenue $480 billion in 2015. This amount to $5 trillion over the decade. 3) My view is that we ought to provide tax relief to people in the middle class. But Im not going to reduce the share of taxes paid by high-income people. If Romney hopes to provide tax relief to the middle class, then his $5 trillion tax cut would add to the deficit. There are not enough deductions in the tax code that primarily benefit rich people to make his math work. 4) My my number-one principal is, there will be no tax cut that adds to the deficit. I want to underline that: no tax cut that adds to the deficit. As the Tax Policy Center concluded, Romneys plan cant both exempt middle class families from tax cuts and remain revenue neutral. Hes promised all these things and he cant do them all. In order for him to cover the cost of his tax cut without adding to the deficit, hed have to find a way to raise taxes on middle income people or people making less than $200,000 a year, the Center found. 5) I will not under any circumstances raise taxes on middle-income families. I will lower taxes on middle-income families. Now, you cite a study. There are six other studies that looked at the study you describe and say its completely wrong. The studies Romney cites actually further prove that Romney would, in fact, have to raise taxes on the middle class if he were to keep his promise not to lose revenue with his tax rate reduction. 6) I saw a study that came out today that said youre going to raise taxes by $3,000 to $4,000 on middle-income families. Romney is pointing to this study from the American Enterprise Institute. It actually found that rather than raise taxes to pay down the debt, the Obama administrations policies those contained directly in his budget would reduce the share of taxes that go toward servicing the debt by $1,289.89 per taxpayer in the $100,000 to $200,000 range. 7) And the reason is because small business pays that individual rate; 54 percent of Americas workers work in businesses that are taxed not at the corporate tax rate, but at the individual tax rate.97 percent of the businesses are not not taxed at the 35 percent tax rate, theyre taxed at a lower rate. But those businesses that are in the last 3 percent of businesses happen to employ half half of all the people who work in small business. Far less than half of the people affected by the expiration of the upper income tax cuts get any of their income at all from a small businesses. And those people could very well be receiving speaking fees or book royalties, which qualify as small business income but dont have a direct impact on job creation. Its actually hard to find a small business who think that they will be hurt if the marginal tax rate on income earned above $250,000 per year is increased. 8) Mr. President, all of the increase in natural gas and oil has happened on private land, not on government land. On government land, your administration has cut the number of permits and licenses in half. Oil production from federal lands is higher, not lower: Production from federal lands is up slightly in 2011 when compared to 2007. And the oil and gas industry is sitting on 7,000 approved permits to drill, that it hasnt begun exploring or developing. 9) The presidents put it in place as much public debt almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined. This is not even close to being true. When Obama took office, the national debt stood at $10.626 trillion. Now the national debt is over $16 trillion. That $5.374 trillion increase is nowhere near as much debt as all the other presidents combined. 10) Thats why the National Federation of Independent Businesses said your plan will kill 700,000 jobs. I dont want to kill jobs in this environment. That study, produced by a right-wing advocacy organization, doesnt analyze what Obama has actually proposed. 11) What we do have right now is a setting where Id like to bring money from overseas back to this country. Romneys plan to shift the country to a territorial tax system would allow corporations to do business and make profits overseas without ever being taxed on it in the United States. This encourages American companies to invest abroad and could cost the country up to 800,000 jobs. 12) I would like to take the Medicaid dollars that go to states and say to a state, youre going to get what you got last year, plus inflation, plus 1 percent, and then youre going to manage your care for your poor in the way you think best. Sending federal Medicaid funding to the states in the form of a block grant woud significantly reduce federal spending for Medicaid because the grant would not keep up with projected health care costs. A CBO estimate of a very similar proposal from Paul Ryan found that federal spending would be 35 percent lower in 2022 and 49 percent lower in 2030 than current projected federal spending and as a result states would face significant challenges in achieving sufficient cost savings through efficiencies to mitigate the loss of federal funding. To maintain current service levels in the Medicaid program, states would probably need to consider additional changes, such as reducing their spending on other programs or raising additional revenues, the CBO found. 13) I want to take that $716 billion youve cut and put it back into Medicare. But the idea of cutting $716 billion from Medicare to be able to balance the additional cost of Obamacare is, in my opinion, a mistake. Theres that number again. Romney is claiming that Obamacare siphons off $716 billion from Medicare, to the detriment of beneficiaries. In actuality, that money is saved primarily through reducing over-payments to insurance companies under Medicare Advantage, not payments to beneficiaries. Paul Ryans budget plan keeps those same cuts, but directs them toward tax cuts for the rich and deficit reduction. 14) What I support is no change for current retirees and near-retirees to Medicare. Here is how Romneys Medicare plan will affect current seniors: 1) by repealing Obamacare, the 16 million seniors receiving preventive benefits without deductibles or co-pays and are saving $3.9 billion on prescription drugs will see a cost increase, 2) premium support will increase premiums for existing beneficiaries as private insurers lure healthier seniors out of the traditional Medicare program, 3) Romney/Ryan would also lower Medicaid spending significantly beginning next year, shifting federal spending to states and beneficiaries, and increasing costs for the 9 million Medicare recipients who are dependent on Medicaid. 15) Number two is for people coming along that are young, what I do to make sure that we can keep Medicare in place for them is to allow them either to choose the current Medicare program or a private plan. Their choice. They get to choose and theyll have at least two plans that will be entirely at no cost to them. The Medicare program changes for everyone, even people who choose to remain in the traditional fee-for-service. Rather than relying on a guaranteed benefit, all beneficiaries will receive a premium support credit of $7,500 on average in 2023 to purchase coverage in traditional Medicare or private insurance. But that amount will only grow at a rate of GDP plus 1.5 percentage points and will not keep up with health care costs. So while the federal government will spend less on the program, seniors will pay more in premiums. 16) And, by the way the idea came not even from Paul Ryan or or Senator Wyden, whos the co-author of the bill with with Paul Ryan in the Senate, but also it came from Bill Bill Clintons chief of staff. Romney has rejected the Ryan/Wyden approach which does not cap the growth of the premium support subsidy. Bill Clinton and his commission also voted down these changes to the Medicare program. 17) Well, I would repeal and replace it. Were not going to get rid of all regulation. You have to have regulation. And there are some parts of Dodd-Frank that make all the sense in the world. Romney has previously called for full repeal of Dodd-Frank, a law whose specific purpose is to regulate banks. MF Globals use of customer funds to pay for its own trading losses is just one bit of proof that the financial industry isnt responsible enough to protect consumers without regulation. 18) But I wouldnt designate five banks as too big to fail and give them a blank check. Thats one of the unintended consequences of Dodd-Frank We need to get rid of that provision because its killing regional and small banks. Theyre getting hurt. The law merely says that the biggest, systemically risky banks need to abide by more stringent regulations. If those banks fail, they will be unwound by a new process in the Dodd-Frank law that protects taxpayers from having to pony up for a bailout. 19) And, unfortunately, when when when you look at Obamacare, the Congressional Budget Office has said it will cost $2,500 a year more than traditional insurance. So its adding to cost. Obamacare will actually provide millions of families with tax credits to make health care more affordable. 20) [I]t puts in place an unelected board thats going to tell people ultimately what kind of treatments they can have. I dont like that idea. The Board, or IPAB is tasked with making binding recommendations to Congress for lowering health care spending, should Medicare costs exceed a target growth rate. Congress can accept the savings proposal or implement its own ideas through a super majority. The panels plan will modify payments to providers but it cannot include any recommendation to ration health care, raise revenues or Medicare beneficiary premiumsincrease Medicare beneficiary cost-sharing (including deductibles, coinsurance, and co- payments), or otherwise restrict benefits or modify eligibility criteria (Section 3403 of the ACA). Relying on health care experts rather than politicians to control health care costs has previously attracted bipartisan support and even Ryan himself proposed two IPAB-like structures in a 2009 health plan. 21) Right now, the CBO says up to 20 million people will lose their insurance as Obamacare goes into effect next year. And likewise, a study by McKinsey and Company of American businesses said 30 percent of them are anticipating dropping people from coverage. The Affordable Care Act would actually expand health care coverage to 30 million Americans, despite Romney fear mongering. According to CBO director Douglas Elmendorf, 3 million or less people would leave employer-sponsored health insurance coverage as a result of the law. 22) I like the way we did it [health care] in MassachusettsWhat were some differences? We didnt raise taxes. Romney raised fees, but he can claim that he didnt increase taxes because the federal government funded almost half of his reforms. 23) Its why Republicans said, do not do this, and the Republicans had had the plan. They put a plan out. They put out a plan, a bipartisan plan. It was swept aside. The Affordable Care Act incorporates many Republican ideas including the individual mandate, state-based health care exchanges, high-risk insurance pools, and modified provisions that allow insurers to sell policies in multiple states. Republicans never offered a united bipartisan alternative. 24) Preexisting conditions are covered under my plan. Only people who are continuously insured would not be discriminated against because they suffer from pre-existing conditions. This protection would not be extended to people who are currently uninsured. 25) In one year, you provided $90 billion in breaks to the green energy world. Now, I like green energy as well, but thats about 50 years worth of what oil and gas receives. The $90 billion was given out over several years and included loans, loan guarantees and grants through the American Recovery Act. $23 billion of the $90 billion went toward clean coal, energy-efficiency upgrades, updating the electricity grid and environmental clean-up, largely for old nuclear weapons sites. 26) I think about half of [the green firms Obama invested in], of the ones have been invested in have gone out of business. A number of them happened to be owned by people who were contributors to your campaigns. As of late last year, only three out of the 26 recipients of 1705 loan guarantees have filed for bankruptcy, with losses estimated at just over $600 million. 27) If the presidents reelected youll see dramatic cuts to our military. Romney is referring to the sequester, which his running mate Paul Ryan supported. Obama opposes the military cuts and has asked Congress to formulate a balanced approach that would avoid the trigger. http://thinkprogress...-in-38-minutes/

Because I have you on ignore because I'm tired of your insane, obscenity filled drivel, perhaps?public/style_emoticons/default/glare.gifRepubs 1) know they cannot ban abortion because of Roe vs Wade2) want SCOTUS to overturn Roe at some point3) want it decided at the state level like it was pre-Roe4) know the public doesn't want abortion banned at the federal level and in most states banned there either.Okay - so they were just lying to their constituents, much as YOU lied when you said you have me on ignore (Can't be done, [female canine]).I have you on Ignore, but I occasionally peek. What, you couldn't have figured that out yourself?I'll just wait over here, toad...I'm very happy for you, moonbat. Keep waiting.

Phaggot Thread~!I'm sure thats the reason you are here, why don't you fess up. Are there a lot of gay Klan members such as yourself? You would think most gays would be somewhat adverse to wearing a dunce hat and bed sheets, and doing a Arab thing with dunce hat instead of a towel on their head. Are the sheets to show solidarity with the Osama types?