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Oh, so not practicing their right to choose NOT to get knocked up isn't on the menu here?Ah, yes - the Dirty S1ut argument. Always so popular with your self-righteous idiots.This is ridiculous, Isa and you know it.What is ridiculous is your trying to pretend that one's prior, legal actions justify denial of one's rights.I already said I can understand rape victims and women who's lives are threatened by the birth. I don't think we should judge all women accordingly to what a given group does.How christlike of you - I see you save your sanctimonious judgement for those who do not adhere to your beliefs.However, if you had every chance and capability of preventing a pregnancy and you become pregnant due to your own foolish choices? And the Irresponsible S1ut argument, as well. You are really trotting out all the classics here. Again, irrelevant to the issue of rights.Suck it up and deal with it or put the poor thing up for adoption so it has a chance to live a good life. Your opinion of what OTHER PEOPLE should do, and the sacrifices you think OTHER PEOPLE should make are irrelevant. You DO know that, right?Rather than deprive it of such due to your own idiocy. That ISN'T right and NEVER WILL BE right. No one is being deprived of anything. There is no one there to be deprived.You cannot justify it.I'm not the one trying to justify denying anyone their rights. That flaming hypocirte would be YOU. Edited by Isabel, 14 March 2011 - 09:27 AM.

Uh--you were the one who questioned whether or not the Constitution guarantees a woman's right to have an abortion.The answer is 'yes'.The Supreme Court did its job.Maybe you should think about kissing their ***.LOL. "The Constitution doesn't give that right! So there! I win! Ha ha ha!""Yes, it does. Here's the cite of the Supreme Court's opinion.""Well...uhh...nothing they say matters!'LOLOL.Not exactly, considering I never really said I'd make it illegal downright if it was my choice to begin with. You assumed as much. However women who do it for no reason other than their own greed and selfishness... should not be hailed as heroes.??? Who is doing that? They should not be even considered a decent person anymore by those they surround themselves with. Yes, we can see how much you long to judge and punish women. Not something to be bragging about.What angers me about all of this is how they can publicly admit why they did it (often for the wrong reasons) out of this ridiculous sense of pride... and people will cheer them for it.Seriously, dude - who the **** are you talking about?That's wrong. It'll never be right.Your opinion is a fine justification for choices in your own life, however it is utterly inadequate as a justification for demanding that total strangers adhere to your personal beliefs.

I really wish this subject came up earlier. I actually a had a book with such a person that basically spoke about how she had an abortion, all for the sake of keeping her and her husband's life as it was. She refused for it to change with a child. She was proud of that fact and spoke openly about it. If I can find the book again I'll quote it exactly and the name of this... human being.Where was the part where she was "hailed as a hero", as you claimed? Or would you rather just admit you were indulging yourself with dishonest hyperventilating.There are more like her too, quite a few in fact. Irrelevant.You really think most of the women are going to clinics to save their life or unable to go through birth due to the child being wrought of rape? Who said that? You really love to make up both sides of the conversation, don't you.Also, it happened during your time. Not mine. You read about it so it is more of an occurring, evidential fact in your mind. Please quote MB saying otherwise before you start trying so feebly to condescend to her.What bothers me is how there is plenty going on NOW that you seem completely ignorant to. What, the newspaper just not providing you with what you need now-a-days? Actually, I think you just pick and choose your information personally. But whatever, going back on to the subject of your idiocy and I'd rather avoid that and stick to this more interesting topic.Blah blah blah. "You're STUPID! You're so STUPID!" Your rhetorical prowess is devastating.As for you Cannon, I don't know how I would feel or what I would do. I'd likely leave her alone. If she ever admitted as to why and it was for an unsavory reason, she'd get an earful from me followed by a rude finger gesture and my *** out the door.And if that were me, you'd get your nasty, bullying little *** b1tchslapped for your trouble. Edited by Isabel, 14 March 2011 - 09:43 AM.

You don't get it, not many do. People and society in general needs to stand up against whores and not validate their crimes.LOLOL. And the mask of reasonableness slips and we see the true, ugly face of the misogynistic and impotent little man, snarling his bitterness towards women who will not do what he says.They should not be seen as champions of rights for women but rather disgusting villains. No one cares what you think.Sometimes, social exile is far more powerful than any punishment mandated by law. LOLOL. Don't worry your little head about it, dear. Every woman over 20 is well-acquainted with your type, knows exactly why you are so resentful and nasty, and has learned to avoid and ignore you.Not to mention, if you start making it illegal all kinds of difficult variables begin to occur. You'll start convicting innocent women that truly required an abortion for whatever reason along with the guilty. It wouldn't work and never could. It's also intrusive as hell if you tried to make it work(think womb police).And it would require that ALL CITIZENS make the same sacrifice. I'd love to hear your screaming when YOU were forced to adhere to that standard.What I am talking about is not forcing these things through law, but by public expectation of their fellow man. That's all.But you don't expect it of your "fellow man". You only expect it of women. As Michael Palin would say: "Ohwhatagiveaway!"

To refresh everyone's memory, Carl Paladino is the Republican who ran against Andrew Cuomo for governor of New York. Apparently his history of sending out vile racist and sexist e-mails, including a bestiality video, was not a disqualifier in the eyes of Republicans. One member of this forum even defended him........it still infuriates me that the Tea Partiers would back a piece of filth like this guy Paladino. Because of one animal porno? (I love the way Clem underlined the word one. LOL I guess one animal porno was acceptable to him. I wonder how many animal pornos would have been too many for Clem.)Well now it looks like old Carl Paladino (or should I say Palamino....horsey reference) is refusing to pay his campaign debts.Deadbeat Carl Paladino Won't Pay His DebtsIt's been a while since we last heard news about Carl Paladino -- Buffalo's millionaire slumlord-turned failed New York gubernatorial candidate. Well, the Buffalo News has an update on our favorite Tea Partier from the north! Crazy Carl has decided that he doesn't need to pay the campaign staffers, consultants and vendors who helped him run against Andrew Cuomo. According to ex-staffers interviewed by the paper, Paladino still owes out about $130,000 in various fees and salaries. According to ex-staffer Tim Suereth:"I would have expected a nice thank-you from Carl for all the hard work I had contributed, but instead I got screwed," said Tim Suereth, who first served as manager of internal operations and later as an unpaid volunteer.While the campaign paid him $31,912 in salary, the millionaire businessman through direct correspondence has refused to reimburse him for $6,300 in expenses, Suereth said.And the (quite legitimate) gripes go on and on in the story. That's bad form, Carl. Don't blame former staffers for your epic defeat, blame all of the crazy **** you said during the campaign. Maybe?

To refresh everyone's memory, Carl Paladino is the Republican who ran against Andrew Cuomo for governor of New York. Apparently his history of sending out vile racist and sexist e-mails, including a bestiality video, was not a disqualifier in the eyes of Republicans. One member of this forum even defended him.It's the old,"Hey look, a squirrel!" diversion professional Democrat Operative Liars use.Roughly 11% real unemployment and still rising.A $1.6 trillion deficit that Obama and Democrats refuse to cut, but little Miss Marxist is worried about one animal porn video, the same person who defended a real life, actual rapist.How's that roaring Obama Economy doing?Lying partisan hack.

You're also being ignored by me.So I'm being ignored by a condescending little man who obviously has a problem with women.I noticed that you seem to be unable to reply to women without calling them misogynistic names like bimbo or honey buns or referring to them as sweety, or darling.Funny but I don't see you replying to male posters the same way.Judging by the way you talk about women being whores, I'd say you have serious anger issues.So I'm happy to be ignored by you. BTW, If you really want to ignore me, then stay out of my thread.Anyway, enough of that.You got that right Bunkey.

Lip service only.I'm talking about on the daily basis that you post about.You are all over the republicans like white on rice and except for your once in a while exceptions, say nothing about the dems doing the same thing.Maybe you can tell me how what I do is any different than what anybody else does here?You see many people on the right here citing what their side does wrong?Do you ever cite what your side does wrong?That's how it works Chuck. Each side criticizes the other.I've never seen you take anyone on the right to task for not pointing out the faults on their own side.Why am I being held to a different standard? So you excuse the dems, Obama, for not keeping his promises, meanwhile, how many threads have you made critisizing the repubs for not keeping theirs since the mid-terms?I'd say probably zero, since I rarely start any threads here anymore, because that maniac Clem derails them all. That's why I started this one, so I'd have at least one place to vent. And as you can see, he keeps posting in here, even though he knows I have him on ignore.I think you have me confused with Fox News. I never claimed to be Fair and Balanced.I freely admit that the Democratic Party is only slightly better than the Republicans when it comes to selling us out to special interests, and that there is too much money in politics altogether.I guess being from a working (middle) class backround, I identify more with the Dems, since one of their big special interest groups is organized labor, and that's probably what keeps them from selling out to big business altogether, and becoming a carbon copy of the Republican Party.I really don't understand why anyone in the Middle Class would ever support the Republican Party. Edited by MistyBlue, 14 March 2011 - 12:51 PM.

However, if you had every chance and capability of preventing a pregnancy and you become pregnant due to your own foolish choices?Ah, yes - the Dirty S1ut argument. Always so popular with your self-righteous idiots.Did you notice how Kelliak puts the full responsibility for birth control on the woman?As if the man didn't also have some responsibility in preventing an unwanted pregnancy.Men can also make the choice to either wrap it up, keep it in their pants, or get snipped.....she'd get an earful from me followed by a rude finger gesture and my *** out the door.Gee. What a big loss. Edited by MistyBlue, 14 March 2011 - 12:47 PM.

I have you on Ignore, but I occasionally peek. What, you couldn't have figured that out yourself?Interesting. My super secret moderator buttons show that I have disabled your ability to put me on iggy. So that means you are lying - AGAIN.Do you EVER tell the truth, toad?

Interesting. My super secret moderator buttons show that I have disabled your ability to put my on iggy. So that means you are lying - AGAIN.Do you EVER tell the truth, toad?And he calls me a shameless liar.

Interesting. My super secret moderator buttons show that I have disabled your ability to put me on iggy. So that means you are lying - AGAIN.Do you EVER tell the truth, toad?Hey psycho, until I clicked on the "View it anyway" button, your message didn't show. And he calls me a shameless liar. You are, duuh.The Republicans have such a dark pessimistic view of America. It's obvious that they hate this country.There was no credible evidence whatsoever that Bill Clinton raped anybodyFollowed by:I never commented on the veracity of the accusation.I guess being from a working (middle) class backroundGiven that you worked at the Post Office, I assume you meant slow-motion working class?

Hey psycho, until I clicked on the "View it anyway" button, your message didn't show.Screenshot, serial prevaricator?

Hey psycho, until I clicked on the "View it anyway" button, your message didn't show.Screenshot, serial prevaricator?What happened to those supposed super secret moderator powers?Why would I bother with a psychotic liar like you?

RichClem, on 14 March 2011 - 03:06 PM, said:Hey psycho, until I clicked on the "View it anyway" button, your message didn't show.Screenshot, serial prevaricator?Screenshot? LMAOHe doesn't have the software.I don't have the software to give me the most basic of functions and capabilities.RichClem, on 14 March 2011 - 03:06 PM, said:Hey psycho, until I clicked on the "View it anyway" button, your message didn't show.Hey psycho. That's the same message I get when you post something. Except I don't click on 'View It Anyway'. Why would I want to read the same old **** you've posted 1,000 times? Edited by MistyBlue, 14 March 2011 - 02:27 PM.

Did you notice how Kelliak puts the full responsibility for birth control on the woman?As if the man didn't also have some responsibility in preventing an unwanted pregnancy.Men can also make the choice to either wrap it up, keep it in their pants, or get snipped.Yep - same old story. Social reject, failure with women, absolutely FURIOUS that they have sex with all those other guys, but not him.

Screenshot? LMAOHe doesn't have the software.Psycho CP claimed I was lying, and you claimed to buy it.Here you go.This post is hidden because you have chosen to ignore posts by Cannonpointer View it anyway? Care to correct your false accusation? No?Never expected you to. Hey psycho. That's the same message I get when you post something. Except I don't click on 'View It Anyway'. Why would I want to read the same old **** you've posted 1,000 times?You never want facts to get in the way of your lies.

If nothing else, you sure are tenacious Puss.This post is hidden because you have chosen to ignore posts by RichClem . View it anyway? Why Clem Discredits MeWhy Clem Derails My Threads

My super secret moderator buttons show that I have disabled your ability to put me on iggy. Gotta be a joke.

Gotta be a joke.Shhhh! It's a secret.