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Republican Hypocrisy Inaction WatchGOPers who had no problem demanding federal disaster assistance suddenly find fault with Sandy aid.The Republican Party owns this mess and more specifically the House of Representatives Republicans, up to and including Speaker John Boehner. They have had weeks to get a Hurricane Sandy aid package passed, but they sat on it. They’ve had a version to work with for more than three weeks.The House finally acted today on one portion of the overall $60b request for aid from states affected by Hurricane Sandy. They finally acted to approve the $9.7b portion that re-funds the National Flood Insurance Program.The people affected by this program are people who actually paid flood insurance premiums into this program for insurance. Republicans ignore that basic fact when they vote to oppose this funding. They have a fiduciary duty to act promptly. They failed miserably on that account, and it was only the righteous indignation of Republicans in New York and New Jersey, along with Governor Chris Christie to get even this meager piece of the reconstruction package to the floor for a vote.The final vote was 354-67. All 67 opposed were Republicans. Many were from states that are regularly hit with natural disasters. Here’s the list…When you start digging deeper, you see a rather disturbing pattern. These Republicans had no problem demanding federal disaster assistance for their own constituents, but when it comes to Sandy disaster victims, they suddenly claim that the money’s not there.They’re hypocrites.Among those that I’ve tracked down that have sought aid include some of the leading Republicans in Congress, up to and including former Vice Presidential nominee Paul Ryan.The entire Kansas delegation opposed the Sandy flood insurance program fund bill, despite the fact that Kansas regularly seeks and receives without hesitation aid for tornadoes and severe weather as well as droughts and flooding.For those who forget, Hurricane Katrina, which wasn’t exactly a model for federal action, still managed to approve the emergency aid package within 10 days. Congress is going on more than two months and still hasn’t fully funded the Sandy reconstruction. Fault resides completely with the Republicans who have held this up for nothing more than partisan political bickering.Now, you’ll hear that some of these Republicans have no problem with disaster aid, but only when accompanied by offsetting cuts. None was requested or needed for prior disasters - and it sets bad precedent in any case. This is a fundamental job of governance and the federal government’s duty and responsibility to the public. This isn’t about finding ways to cut spending. It’s about getting affected areas back up and running and restore the economic viability of affected regions. The faster the aid comes in, the faster the economic vitality of the region is restored.It really is that simple.The faster the aid flows in, the faster the affected local economy will improve. Businesses will be able to move forward with their own rebuilding plans. Individuals will be able to move ahead with their own home restorations and rebuilding. Localities can plan their own rebuilding efforts. This all gets stalled because of Congressional inaction. And the GOP must be held accountable for this.I guess these pinheads think it's okay to deny aid to blue states like NY or NJ, even though they send much more money to the federal government than they ever get back, while their red states suck off the teat of those same blue states.Maybe the Dems should vote no, the next time one of these right wing flying monkeys has a natural disaster in their state.Yeah.....that'll happen. ROFL

I like that one. She's not running the House now, Boehner is. They need to stop all this last minute **** and give them time to read the stuff they're voting on. They just go from one cliff to another. They're already talking about the next 'cliff' raising the debt ceiling. Republicans are ready to let the country default on the bills that Congress already racked up. (Spending bills originate in the House.) They do this under the pretext of being concerned about the deficit and the national debt, which is a bunch of hogsnot. If they really cared about the deficit or the debt they would have gone after George W. Bush who added trillions to the debt with his two unfunded wars, Medicare Part D and tax cuts, none of which were paid for. They never once gave him a hard time in raising the debt ceiling. If they were serious about cutting spending, they would also include things like defense spending, but they never do. Their real agenda is to dismantle the social safety net, something they have always wanted to do. They don't give a **** about the deficit. Here's all you need to know and why Republicans and Democrats, particularly Obama doesn't care about the national debt... 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution Section 4 The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any state shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

I don't know if those bills were as pork packed. Really don't.

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any state shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.Seems to me that Republicans are questioning it, when they say we should just 'shut the government down'.I don't even think they understand what they are saying.

Which Republican said that?

I don't know if those bills were as pork packed. Really don't.Are you talking about the Sandy Relief Bill, because ALL pork was removed in the House version.Don't take my word for it, take Republican Congressman Peter King's word.Rep. Peter King (R-NY) tells Starting Point that although he disagreed with Speaker John Boehner for not holding the vote on Hurricane Sandy relief Tuesday night, they are getting results. Later in the interview, he criticizes and disagrees with Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) for saying that there is pork in the bill.Rep. King says, “With all due respect, Darrell Issa is 1,000 percent wrong. There is absolutely no pork in the bill. There were some items that were added in the Senate, involving Alaska for one, which is about less than one percent of the bill…. Every one of those items was removed from the House bill. And I wish Darrell Issa had learned that and looked into that before he went public and said that my constituents should not get their homes rebuilt….”http://cnnpressroom....rk-in-the-bill/Darrell Issa was lying.

Seems to me that Republicans are questioning it, when they say we should just 'shut the government down'. I don't even think they understand what they are saying. I say let the government shut down. I would be completely overjoyed.

Which Republican said that?The clown parade has started. Haven't you seen it?One of my own Senators (Pat Toomey) is one of them.Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) is another, and quite a few House members.

So they had a whole 1.16 seconds to read each page before voting. Why we accept this incompetence is beyond me.Hey, a speed reader could do that.They should have prepared better.

Hey, a speed reader could do that. They should have prepared better. You forgot something.

That's the result of the Pelosi "We got to pass it so we can read it" deal that we go by now-a-daysIndependent thought not requiredReally? Pelosi?SHE was the one who said that abou the patriot act?

I say let the government shut down. I would be completely overjoyed.It's not that simple. The debt ceiling involves obligations that have already been made in the past on the part of Congress. Defaulting on those debts will have far reaching and damaging effects. It could throw not only our economy, but the global economy into chaos. See how these hypocrites defended raising the debt ceiling under G.W. Bush.

I like that one.
 She's not running the House now, Boehner is.

They need to stop all this last minute **** and give them time to read the stuff they're voting on.
They just go from one cliff to another.

They're already talking about the next 'cliff' raising the debt ceiling.
Republicans are ready to let the country default on the bills that Congress already racked up.
(Spending bills originate in the House.)
They do this under the pretext of being concerned about the deficit and the national debt, which is a bunch of hogsnot.
If they really cared about the deficit or the debt they would have gone after George W. Bush who added trillions to the debt with his two unfunded wars, Medicare Part D and tax cuts, none of which were paid for.

They never once gave him a hard time in raising the debt ceiling.

If they were serious about cutting spending, they would also include things like defense spending, but they never do.
Their real agenda is to dismantle the social safety net, something they have always wanted to do.
They don't give a **** about the deficit.
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THIS! ^^^

The clown parade has started. Haven't you seen it? One of my own Senators (Pat Toomey) is one of them. Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) is another, and quite a few House members. Exact quote or an interpretation?

Hey, a speed reader could do that. They should have prepared better. I guess if they had prepared better they wouldn't need a speed reader. It's not like they didn't know months ago the cliff was coming.

I like that one.
 She's not running the House now, Boehner is.

They need to stop all this last minute **** and give them time to read the stuff they're voting on.
They just go from one cliff to another.

They're already talking about the next 'cliff' raising the debt ceiling.
Republicans are ready to let the country default on the bills that Congress already racked up.
(Spending bills originate in the House.)
They do this under the pretext of being concerned about the deficit and the national debt, which is a bunch of hogsnot.
If they really cared about the deficit or the debt they would have gone after George W. Bush who added trillions to the debt with his two unfunded wars, Medicare Part D and tax cuts, none of which were paid for.

They never once gave him a hard time in raising the debt ceiling.

If they were serious about cutting spending, they would also include things like defense spending, but they never do.
Their real agenda is to dismantle the social safety net, something they have always wanted to do.
They don't give a **** about the deficit.
THIS! ^^^

Exact quote or an interpretation?Exact quote by my Senator on Joe Scarborough's show this morning.We absolutely have to have this fight over the debt limit, the Pennsylvania Republican said Wednesday on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," adding that congressional Republicans have to be ready to push a temporary shutdown if necessary to force the president's hand.We Republicans need to be willing to tolerate a temporary, partial government shutdown.http://www.newsmax.c...5#ixzz2H4YufyY9I like that one.
 She's not running the House now, Boehner is.

They need to stop all this last minute **** and give them time to read the stuff they're voting on.
They just go from one cliff to another.

They're already talking about the next 'cliff' raising the debt ceiling.
Republicans are ready to let the country default on the bills that Congress already racked up.
(Spending bills originate in the House.)
They do this under the pretext of being concerned about the deficit and the national debt, which is a bunch of hogsnot.
If they really cared about the deficit or the debt they would have gone after George W. Bush who added trillions to the debt with his two unfunded wars, Medicare Part D and tax cuts, none of which were paid for.

They never once gave him a hard time in raising the debt ceiling.

If they were serious about cutting spending, they would also include things like defense spending, but they never do.
Their real agenda is to dismantle the social safety net, something they have always wanted to do.
They don't give a **** about the deficit.
THIS! ^^^What's up with that mess?I wanted to fix it, but I don't even know where to start. LOL

It's not that simple.The debt ceiling involves obligations that have already been made in the past on the part of Congress.Defaulting on those debts will have far reaching and damaging effects.It could throw not only our economy, but the global economy into chaos.See how these hypocrites defended raising the debt ceiling under G.W. Bush.Chaos? I welcome it.Are YOU prepared?

Chaos? I welcome it. Are YOU prepared? No. I'm too busy watching Honey Boo Boo. 'Here Comes Honey Boo Boo' Halloween: Mama June Gets A Home Makeover (VIDEO) Leave it to "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo" to offer up its Halloween special in early January -- don't worry, the Thanksgiving special is coming up next week. Mama June decided it was time for a beauty makeover, but being a frugal shopper, she decided to go with a home makeover. After all, it's much cheaper to have her kids dye her hair at home than do it at a salon. Right away, though, Alana ran into some trouble applying the product. "Mama, all your bugs are jumpin’ out your head," she lamented. Her husband, Sugar Bear, loved the new look, saying, "Hubba bubba! That’s a sexy mama." He described his wife as "a blonde bombshell."

I like that one.She's not running the House now, Boehner is.Doesn't matterShe set the precedent, and you were fine with thatYou got no right to bitch about it nowThey need to stop all this last minute **** and give them time to read the stuff they're voting on.They just go from one cliff to another.They're already talking about the next 'cliff' raising the debt ceiling.Republicans are ready to let the country default on the bills that Congress already racked up.(Spending bills originate in the House.)They do this under the pretext of being concerned about the deficit and the national debt, which is a bunch of hogsnot.If they really cared about the deficit or the debt they would have gone after George W. Bush who added trillions to the debt with his two unfunded wars, Medicare Part D and tax cuts, none of which were paid for.They never once gave him a hard time in raising the debt ceiling.If they were serious about cutting spending, they would also include things like defense spending, but they never do.Their real agenda is to dismantle the social safety net, something they have always wanted to do.They don't give a **** about the deficit.And you're back to blaming Bush for Obama's failures.The "cliff" needed nothing done to it. It should have been embraced.Automatic spending cuts is what's needed, if we're ever gonna get this country back on track