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Of course it is.How else is "universal background checks" (which wasn't in his poll question either) going to be enforced?It can ONLY be enforced by the government having a list of who owns every guns, IOW, registrationI don't have a problem with registration.Well then you ought to be able to tell me a few times when registration DIDN'T result in guns being confiscated.I think it's the other way around. Since you're the one who said that registration will result in confiscation, you need to show me when, here in America and in modern history, the federal government, or any state or local government, has ever gone door-to-door in an attempt to confiscate weapons. The exception being in NOLA after Katrina, and those weapons were ordered to be returned to their owners after a lawsuit filed by gun lobbying groups.I don't see how the government gets around the Heller ruling that says that we have an individual right to own a weapon for self protection.Never heard of him.....Frank I. Luntz (born February 23, 1962) is an American political consultant, pollster, and Republican Party strategist. His most recent work has been with the Fox News Channel as a frequent commentator and analyst, as well as running focus groups after presidential debates.Have you heard the story about how a bunch of Republicans got together in a restaurant on inauguartion day in January 2009, to plot and plan how they were going to submarine Obama's presidency?Frank Luntz organized that dinner.

I don't see how the government gets around the Heller ruling that says that we have an individual right to own a weapon for self protection. Judicious scotus appointments, perhaps.

Judicious scotus appointments, perhaps.I don't see Heller being overturned.Anyway the next most likely upcoming SCOTUS retirement will be Ginsburg.So not much change in the political ideology of the court.

The word "***" is latin for Black.Wrong. The Latin word for "black" is not the n-word. The Latin word for "black" is "niger".

Twistedgypsychild, on 20 Jan 2013 - 15:28, said:The word "***" is latin for Black.Wrong. The Latin word for "black" is not the n-word. The Latin word for "black" is "niger".It was just a poor excuse for her to use the word anyway.

It was just a poor excuse for her to use the word anyway. Repeatedly ... about President Barack Obama ... the day before President Barack Obama's 2nd Inauguration ... the day before Martin Luther King, Jr. Day (Observed).In the summer of 2012 Jeb Bush said, "The future of our party is to reach out consistently to have a tone that is open and hospitable to people who share values ... the conservative cause would be the governing philosophy as far as the eye could see and thats doable if we just stop acting stupid." Looks like the right will continue to ignore the advice of Jeb Bush. Edited by Phelix_Dacat, 21 January 2013 - 03:39 PM.

I don't see Heller being overturned. Anyway the next most likely upcoming SCOTUS retirement will be Ginsburg. So not much change in the political ideology of the court. I'll just cross my fingers and hope, in any case. Wrong. The Latin word for "black" is not the n-word. The Latin word for "black" is "niger". But the Latin word for "left" is "sinister." You don't have to thank me for this, TGC--just don't say I never did anything for you.

I don't have a problem with registration.I think it's the other way around. Since you're the one who said that registration will result in confiscation, you need to show me when, here in America and in modern history, the federal government, or any state or local government, has ever gone door-to-door in an attempt to confiscate weapons. You're right. It has never happened. And I intend to make sure it never will. Registration ALWAYS ends up in confiscation, this has been proven world wide over and over again. For you to pretend it won't happen here is disingenuous at best. Did you know? The new law in New York, the part that requires gun licensee's renew every five years? That part is the registration clause in that law. And if it happens, those guns will be subject to confiscation. This is real Your side is advocating that we legislate the people into defenselessness My side isn't going to allow it What's gonna happen?

MistyBlue, on 21 Jan 2013 - 14:30, said:Since you're the one who said that registration will result in confiscation, you need to show me when, here in America and in modern history, the federal government, or any state or local government, has ever gone door-to-door in an attempt to confiscate weapons.You're right. It has never happened. And I intend to make sure it never will.So why did you say, '...you ought to be able to tall me a few times when registration DIDN'T result in guns being confiscated'?Registration ALWAYS ends up in confiscation, this has been proven world wide over and over again.For you to pretend it won't happen here is disingenuous at best.Did it happen during the assault weapons ban that was in place from 1994 to 2004?Not according to you.Chuck: "It has never happened."You need to stop listening to the fear mongers.

You really don't get it, do you? Did the AWB involve registration? The answer is no, it didn't It's the closing of this so-called "gun show loophole" that is gonna require registration the "background check for every purchase", Tell me you're not as dumb as that last post indicates

You really don't get it, do you?Did the AWB involve registration?The answer is no, it didn'tIt's the closing of this so-called "gun show loophole" that is gonna require registrationthe "background check for every purchase"So you think people with a criminal record should be allowed to purchase guns without a background check?Tell me you're not as dumb as that last post indicatesIs that supposed to be a joke? Because I know you're better than that.

So you think people with a criminal record should be allowed to purchase guns without a background check? http://www.theonion....sales-to,30927/

Oops, my bad, look away.

You really don't get it, do you? Did the AWB involve registration? The answer is no, it didn't It's the closing of this so-called "gun show loophole" that is gonna require registration the "background check for every purchase", Tell me you're not as dumb as that last post indicates I thought these garbage threads showing chopped fetuses, dead bodies, etc. was not acceptable at LF?

I thought these garbage threads showing chopped fetuses, dead bodies, etc. was not acceptable at LF?I found the image in this thread pretty disgusting.But I'll leave it to Chuck to make the call.http://liberalforum....rderer-rebel58/MistyBlue, on 22 Jan 2013 - 15:42, said:So you think people with a criminal record should be allowed to purchase guns without a background check?http://www.theonion....sales-to,30927/NRA Fights Legislation That Would Ban Gun Sales To Those Currently On Killing SpreesROFL

NRA Fights Legislation That Would Ban Gun Sales To Those Currently On Killing Sprees ROFL were any of these mass shooters convicted felons? i didn't realize they were. except for that old guy in upstate new york. and i really doubt he got that gun in any legal manner.

MistyBlue, on 22 Jan 2013 - 17:37, said:NRA Fights Legislation That Would Ban Gun Sales To Those Currently On Killing Spreeswere any of these mass shooters convicted felons? i didn't realize they were. except for that old guy in upstate new york.and i really doubt he got that gun in any legal manner.That was from jayjay's link from the Onion lews.Sometimes satire is too close to reality. LOLOops, my bad, look away.Did you get lost again? LOL

So you think people with a criminal record should be allowed to purchase guns without a background check?Misty,You realize you are talking about gun registration, right?Criminals are going to "purchase" guns anywayProhibition never works, and that is all you are trying to achieve,Why shouldn't I be allowed to sell you a gun without asking the government for permission first?

Misty,You realize you are talking about gun registration, right?If you say so. Again, I don't have a problem with that.Criminals are going to "purchase" guns anywayEspecially if they don't have to undergo a background check.Why shouldn't I be allowed to sell you a gun without asking the government for permission first?How would you know if I have a criminal record or not?

Did you get lost again? LOL