Flying Monkeys
By Nobody
11 Mar 2011 1:42 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
7 Jun 2014 1:00 pm
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This photograph is from 1983, when Reagan and the CIA were dancing around the idea of arming Mujahadin fighters in order to fight back against Soviet incursion in Afghanistan.
The result was a well-armed, well-trained group of jihadis who resisted (some say defeated) the onslaught of superior Soviet weaponry.
Once the Soviets retreated, the U.S. lost interest and pulled the funding.
Osama bin Laden took interest, and filled the vacuum, later fathering the Taliban.
The rest, as they say, is history.
http://www.businessinsider.com/reagan-f ... icy-2013-2
This photograph is from 1983, when Reagan and the CIA were dancing around the idea of arming Mujahadin fighters in order to fight back against Soviet incursion in Afghanistan.
The result was a well-armed, well-trained group of jihadis who resisted (some say defeated) the onslaught of superior Soviet weaponry.
Once the Soviets retreated, the U.S. lost interest and pulled the funding.
Osama bin Laden took interest, and filled the vacuum, later fathering the Taliban.
The rest, as they say, is history.
http://www.businessinsider.com/reagan-f ... icy-2013-2
7 Jun 2014 1:48 pm
No offense, but I found that reportage a tad dishonest. The claim that witnesses reported more than fifty shots were fired, tied to NRA lobbying to protect against magazine restrictions, is a deliberate implication that the "domestic terrorist" (or too-far-pushed citizen - you decide) fired those fifty shots. From his car. Before reaching the court house. While deploying stop sticks, And maintaining his vehicle's course (presumably with hands at ten and two - but with this type, don't count on it).Misty » 06 Jun 2014 5:17 pm » wrote: Amen.
So, CLEARLY, the real story is closer to something like: This poor loser never got off a shot before he was caught in a crossfire and mowed down in a fusillade of approximately 50 or more shots.
Someone in the cop shop probably owed him money, and the rest is fabrication. I have no evidence, but at least my reportage isn't pretending factuariality.
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"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
7 Jun 2014 1:56 pm
What good is a magazine capacity restriction if there isn't a restriction on the number of magazines one can lawfully carry?
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9 Jun 2014 12:15 pm
The best chance someone has to stop a shooter is when they have to stop to reload.GeorgeWashington » 07 Jun 2014 1:56 pm » wrote:What good is a magazine capacity restriction if there isn't a restriction on the number of magazines one can lawfully carry?
Such was the case in the Gabby Gifford's shooting.
The more times they have to reload, the better the chance to stop them.
9 Jun 2014 12:26 pm
And here we go again. These pinheads are fed a steady diet of anti-government rhetoric and conspiracy theories by the right wing media, and this is the result.
I doubt it. They're probably too busy counting their paper.
I wonder if people like Glenn Beck have ever engaged in a single moment of introspection about how their rhetoric might set off a couple of nuts like these?How much does right-wing rhetoric contribute to right-wing terrorism?
Yesterday, a man and a woman shot two police officers in a Las Vegas restaurant after saying, “this is a revolution.” Then they draped their bodies in a Gadsden flag.
According to reports now coming in, the couple (who later killed themselves) appear to have been white supremacists and told neighbors they had gone to join the protests in support of anti-government rancher Cliven Bundy. It was one more incident of right-wing terrorism that, while not exactly an epidemic, has become enough of a trend to raise some troubling questions.
What I’m about to say will raise some hackles, but we need to talk about it. It’s long past time for prominent conservatives and Republicans to do some introspection and ask whether they’re contributing to outbreaks of right-wing violence.
Before I go on, let me be clear about what I’m not saying. I’m not saying that Republican members of Congress bear direct responsibility for everything some disturbed person from the same side of the political spectrum as them might do. I’m not saying that they are explicitly encouraging violence. Nor am I saying that you can’t find examples of liberals using hyperbolic, irresponsible words.
But what I am saying is this: there are some particular features of conservative political rhetoric today that help create an atmosphere in which violence and terrorism can germinate.
The most obvious component is the fetishization of firearms and the constant warnings that government will soon be coming to take your guns. But that’s only part of it. Just as meaningful is the conspiracy theorizing that became utterly mainstream once Barack Obama took office. If you tuned into one of many national television and radio programs on the right, you heard over and over that Obama was imposing a totalitarian state upon us. You might hear that FEMA was building secret concentration camps (Glenn Beck, the propagator of that theory, later recanted it, though he has a long history of violent rhetoric), or that Obama is seeding the government with agents of the Muslim Brotherhood. You grandfather probably got an email offering proof that Obama is literally the antichrist.
Meanwhile, conservatives have become prone to taking the political disagreements of the moment and couching them in apocalyptic terms, encouraging people to think that if Democrats have their way on any given debate, that our country, or at the very least our liberty, might literally be destroyed.
(Read more at link in title.)
I doubt it. They're probably too busy counting their paper.
9 Jun 2014 12:45 pm
I wonder if people like Barack Obama have ever engaged in a single moment of introspection about how their rhetoric might set off a couple of nuts like these?Misty » 09 Jun 2014 12:26 pm » wrote: I wonder if people like Glenn Beck have ever engaged in a single moment of introspection about how their rhetoric might set off a couple of nuts like these?
I doubt it. They're probably too busy counting their paper.
I wonder if people like Harry Reid have ever engaged in a single moment of introspection about how their rhetoric might set off a couple of nuts like these?
I wonder if people like Ed Schultz
have ever engaged in a single moment of introspection about how their rhetoric might set off a couple of nuts like these?
I wonder if people like Rachel Maddow have ever engaged in a single moment of introspection about how their rhetoric might set off a couple of nuts like these?
9 Jun 2014 12:46 pm
Unfortunately for SO many people, they believe the same thing you do.Misty » 09 Jun 2014 12:15 pm » wrote: The best chance someone has to stop a shooter is when they have to stop to reload.
Such was the case in the Gabby Gifford's shooting.
The more times they have to reload, the better the chance to stop them.
Had people been armed at Gabby Gifford's shooting, FAR FEWER people would have been shot.
9 Jun 2014 1:18 pm
Why should they? They are not the ones engaging in Anti-government rhetoric.golfboy » 09 Jun 2014 12:45 pm » wrote: I wonder if people like Barack Obama have ever engaged in a single moment of introspection about how their rhetoric might set off a couple of nuts like these?
I wonder if people like Harry Reid have ever engaged in a single moment of introspection about how their rhetoric might set off a couple of nuts like these?
I wonder if people like Ed Schultz
have ever engaged in a single moment of introspection about how their rhetoric might set off a couple of nuts like these?
I wonder if people like Rachel Maddow have ever engaged in a single moment of introspection about how their rhetoric might set off a couple of nuts like these?
This couple were regular posters on right wing sites such as Infowars and Brietbart and they believed in conspiracy theories promoted by Alex Jones and Fox News, not MSNBC.
It figures that you would deflect from the real issue and try to blame Liberals for this.
They covered the bodies of the dead cops with a Gadsen Flag, which is the symbol of the Tea Party movement.
9 Jun 2014 1:22 pm
If everyone is armed, how do we tell the good guys from the bad guys?golfboy » 09 Jun 2014 12:46 pm » wrote: Unfortunately for SO many people, they believe the same thing you do.
Had people been armed at Gabby Gifford's shooting, FAR FEWER people would have been shot.
I have asked this question many times, and have yet to receive an answer.
If you are eating in a restaurant, and these two pinhead walks in, how do you know they're not there to rob the place?
How can you tell if they are gun rights activists or criminals?
9 Jun 2014 2:22 pm
So let me get this straight.....
If you are Alex Jones, you incite people like the teabaggers to violence, then you make a prediction that if there is any violence committed, it will not be your fault, or the fault of the idiots you incited, but it is a 'false flag' operation staged by Harry Reid and other Liberal conspirators.
I believe they call that covering your ***.
Or is he just adding fuel to the fire?
OMG! I listened to audio from Alex Jones' show that is supposed to contain his so-called 'conclusive' proof.
His proof that this was a false flag operation? He predicted it, and the government is using mind control on all of these shooters.
If you are Alex Jones, you incite people like the teabaggers to violence, then you make a prediction that if there is any violence committed, it will not be your fault, or the fault of the idiots you incited, but it is a 'false flag' operation staged by Harry Reid and other Liberal conspirators.
I believe they call that covering your ***.
Has he shown anyone the 'conclusive' proof?On the June 9 edition of the Alex Jones Show, Jones claimed "the country is being purposefully imploded right now," before calling the shootings "absolutely staged." Jones continued stating, "There is so much proof of this being staged yesterday, when I first read about it, and this morning, that my mind exploded with hundreds of data points, and quite frankly it's conclusive." He then claimed that the shooting bore out some of the "hundreds of predictions" that he had made "since the Bundy ranch situation," including a scenario where a shooting is blamed on the Tea Party.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/06/09 ... -wa/199644
Or is he just adding fuel to the fire?
OMG! I listened to audio from Alex Jones' show that is supposed to contain his so-called 'conclusive' proof.
His proof that this was a false flag operation? He predicted it, and the government is using mind control on all of these shooters.
9 Jun 2014 4:10 pm
Criminals? SNORKLE!Misty » 09 Jun 2014 1:22 pm » wrote: If everyone is armed, how do we tell the good guys from the bad guys?
I have asked this question many times, and have yet to receive an answer.
If you are eating in a restaurant, and these two pinhead walks in, how do you know they're not there to rob the place?
How can you tell if they are gun rights activists or criminals?
Maybe the Apple Dumpling Gang!
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
18 Jun 2014 12:20 pm
After a year and a half of wall to wall headlines about Benghazi.........
What is the headline on the Sludge Report when Ahmed Abu Khatallah is captured?
His source for that story?
WorldNUTDaily. ROFL
What is the headline on the Sludge Report when Ahmed Abu Khatallah is captured?
His source for that story?
WorldNUTDaily. ROFL
18 Jun 2014 12:23 pm
This is a simple question, with a simple answer. Their actions determine if they are a good guy, or bad guy.Misty » 09 Jun 2014 1:22 pm » wrote: If everyone is armed, how do we tell the good guys from the bad guys?
I have asked this question many times, and have yet to receive an answer.
If you are eating in a restaurant, and these two pinhead walks in, how do you know they're not there to rob the place?
How can you tell if they are gun rights activists or criminals?
If two pinhead walk into a restaurant where they KNOW patrons are armed (yes we have them in Boise), you can be sure they aren't there to rob the place.
Not if they want to walk out alive.
18 Jun 2014 12:27 pm
Sorry, but did you NOT see his headline MONDAY when this was news? News today is the bls report on inflation.Misty » 18 Jun 2014 12:20 pm » wrote:After a year and a half of wall to wall headlines about Benghazi.........
What is the headline on the Sludge Report when Ahmed Abu Khatallah is captured?
His source for that story?
WorldNUTDaily. ROFL
You need to keep up.
DRUDGE REPORT 2014®www.drudgereport.com
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS582US582&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#Drudge ReportUSA captures Benghazi suspect in secret raid...
Held on ship...
Faces charges in civilian court...
Mother of Victim: What Took so Long....
RECENT DRUDGE HEADLINES.
U.S. captures Benghazi suspect in secret raid...
18 Jun 2014 12:29 pm
So I guess we just have to wait and see if they rob the place or not to determine if they are good guys or bad guys.golfboy » 18 Jun 2014 12:23 pm » wrote: This is a simple question, with a simple answer. Their actions determine if they are a good guy, or bad guy.
That should make for a very relaxing meal.
18 Jun 2014 12:31 pm
That link is to the Washington Post, not Drudge.golfboy » 18 Jun 2014 12:27 pm » wrote: Sorry, but did you NOT see his headline MONDAY when this was news? News today is the bls report on inflation.
You need to keep up.
RECENT DRUDGE HEADLINES.
U.S. captures Benghazi suspect in secret raid...
And your other link leads to this:
18 Jun 2014 12:32 pm
Yea, that's kind of the way things work in our world. Do you advocate grabbing people off the street to stop them because they might rob a bank?Misty » 18 Jun 2014 12:29 pm » wrote: So I guess we just have to wait and see if they rob the place or not to determine if they are good guys or bad guys.
That should make for a very relaxing meal.
18 Jun 2014 12:33 pm
Go to drudgereport.com about halfway down the righthand side there is a list of "Recent Drudge Headlines".Misty » 18 Jun 2014 12:31 pm » wrote: That link is to the Washington Post, not Drudge.
I suggest you learn about the site if you want to ridicule it.
Again, that news WAS headlined on his site on Monday.
Tell whatever moonbat website you got that crap from, so they don't make you look bad again.
18 Jun 2014 12:36 pm
Drudge headlines for Monday:golfboy » 18 Jun 2014 12:27 pm » wrote: Sorry, but did you NOT see his headline MONDAY when this was news? News today is the bls report on inflation.
You need to keep up.
18 Jun 2014 12:38 pm
See the times on those headlines? Where is the rest of the day?
But a correction on my part... it was Tuesdays headline, not Monday.
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