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Domestic violence is a **** charge.Tell that to the women who have been murdered by their partners.Oh wait, you can't, they're dead.I guess I just dreamed that my first husband broke my jaw.Funny how after all these years, I can swear that it cracks every once in a while.Must be my imagination.

Tell that to the women who have been murdered by their partners. Oh wait, you can't, they're dead. I guess I just dreamed that my first husband broke my jaw. Still a **** charge. Breaking your jaw was already against the law. Duplicate laws always stink of politics, not jurisprudence.

Still a **** charge.Breaking your jaw was already against the law. Duplicate laws always stink of politics, not jurisprudence.It didn't used to be that way. I lived it.I remember the days when if you called the cops, they did nothing.That's why we needed special laws for domestic violence.

It didn't used to be that way. I lived it. I remember the days when if you called the cops, they did nothing. That's why we needed special laws for domestic violence. I agree with the first two sentences. The third is a nonsequiter.

You are obviously mistaking my revulsion for you for fear Puss. You run around here saying that you crave serious debate, then you engage in the most inane and childish name calling. Give me one good reason why anyone should ever take you seriously? Your supposed revulsion toward me prevents you from explaining how you'd eliminate the roughly $1 trillion annual deficit? You can't even tell believable lies, geez. You can't answer it, so you refuse to even try.

Your supposed revulsion toward me prevents you from explaining how you'd eliminate the roughly $1 trillion annual deficit?You can't even tell believable lies, geez. You can't answer it, so you refuse to even try.Are you honest enough to admit that a large part of that deficit is due to the policies of the previous administration and the economic downturn? Of course not. You'd rather just blame Obama.And are you also honest enough to admit that the deficit has been going down?I doubt it.Obama can't spend a dime that Congress does not appropriate.

Your supposed revulsion toward me prevents you from explaining how you'd eliminate the roughly $1 trillion annual deficit?Are you honest enough to admit that a large part of that deficit is due to the policies of the previous administration and the economic downturn? Of course not. You'd rather just blame Obama.And are you also honest enough to admit that the deficit has been going down?I doubt it.Bulls***. TARP was a one-time spending bill, after which spending would have fallen to historical levels.Obama and Democrats raised spending permanently to record levels, if they get their way.As I obserived, you can't even tell believable lies. And also as I observed, you can't answer my question about how to reduce the deficit, so you refuse to even try.How would you eliminate Obama's roughly $1 trillion annual deficit?Obama can't spend a dime that Congress does not appropriate.Typically deceitful. Repubs have done their best to reduce or control spending, and Obama and Dems to keep it at record levels."Lowest spending in decades?" Can't you even tell believable lies? What, you think everyone slept through the massive hike in spending Dems legislated and Obama sought?Typical Lying Leftist.

Nice to see you've mellowed out during your absence, RichClem.

Nice to see you've mellowed out during your absence, RichClem. I'm watching the country roar toward national bankruptcy. One astute financial adviser I recently talked to expects a depression by around 2016. His clients are almost uniformly "terrified," no exaggeration. I'm watching Obama and Democrats ruin it politically forever. Why should I be mellow about that?

Birth Defect Rates In Fallujah 'Surpass Hiroshima And Nagasaki'Ten years after the 2003 U.S. invasion in Iraq, medical professionals are witnessing an abnormally high number of cases of cancer and birth defects. Scientists suspect the rise is tied to the use of depleted uranium and white phosphorus in military assaults.On the war's ten-year anniversary, Democracy Now! spoke with Dahr Jamail, an Al Jazeera reporter who recently returned from Iraq. Jamail recounts meeting Dr. Samira Alani, a pediatrician in the city of Fallujah who is the only person registering birth defects."She said it's common now in Fallujah for newborns to come out with massive multiple systemic defects, immune problems, massive central nervous system problems, massive heart problems, skeletal disorders, babies being born with two heads, babies being born with half of their internal organs outside of their bodies, cyclops babies literally with one eye -- really, really, really horrific nightmarish types of birth defects."Jamail says that the current rate of birth defects for the city of Fallujah is 14 times greater than the same rate measured in the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki after the nuclear attacks at the end of World War II.A full transcript of the discussion is available here.Another thing to add to Bush's legacy. Cancer and birth defects.

Bulls***. TARP was a one-time spending bill, after which spending would have fallen to historical levels.So you're saying that the two wars, Medicare Part D, Bush tax cuts and an economy left in shambles resulting in decreased revenues have nothing to do with the present deficit?That proves what a partisan hack you really are.Obama and Democrats raised spending permanently to record levels, if they get their way.They 'raised' spending 'if' they get their way?I think you have your tenses mixed up.Which is it? Did they already raise spending, or will they raise it 'if' they get their way?As I observed, you can't even tell believable lies. You must be looking in the mirror.And also as I observed, you can't answer my question about how to reduce the deficit, so you refuse to even try.As you know but won't admit, the deficit is going down.How would you eliminate Obama's roughly $1 trillion annual deficit?Since I don't agree with the premise of your question, that this is solely Obama's deficit, then I can't answer it.Typically deceitful. Repubs have done their best to reduce or control spending, and Obama and Dems to keep it at record levels.How do the Dems do that when your party controls the House, and in essence the Senate, with the unprecedented use of the filibuster?"Lowest spending in decades?" Can't you even tell believable lies? What, you think everyone slept through the massive hike in spending Dems legislated and Obama sought?Typical Lying Leftist.Massive hike in spending Obama sought? ROFLDid he get it?Let's see some figures Puss.Show me exactly which of Obama's policies are making up that 1 trillion dollar deficit.I'm watching the country roar toward national bankruptcy.And yet you sat silent while your party racked up 5 trillion in debt and ran the deficit up to 1.4 trillion.Go figure.

Birth Defect Rates In Fallujah 'Surpass Hiroshima And Nagasaki' Another thing to add to Bush's legacy. Cancer and birth defects. That evil Bush! Iraqis would obviously be better off living under a mass murdering, genocidal dictator, as you have opined. No really, you did!

How would you eliminate Obama's roughly $1 trillion annual deficit?How many times will RichClem ask me this question, even after Ihave informed him that I don't agree with the premise of his question,that Obama's policies are solely responsible for the deficit, therefore I will notrespond to it?Will he ignore what I said and just continue to badger me with it,following me around the forum and demanding an answer?You betcha!

How many times will RichClem ask me this question, even after I have informed him that I don't agree with the premise of his question, that Obama's policies are solely responsible for the deficit, therefore I will not respond to it? Will he ignore what I said and just continue to badger me with it, following me around the forum and demanding an answer? You betcha! Given that you claimed, among many comical false claims, that spending was lowest under of Obama than any other modern president, you're obviously completely full of crap. Not to mention, after four years, of course the deficit is almost entirely Obama's, duuh. How would you eliminate the existing roughly $1 trillion annual deficit?

That evil Bush!Iraqis would obviously be better off living under a mass murdering, genocidal dictator, as you have opined. This baby might have had a better chance.

This baby might have had a better chance. Oh gosh, playing the baby card! How many babies starved under Saddam Hussein? Why don't you have pictures of them? How many innocent Iraqis were butchered under him? He was directly responsible for the deaths of roughly 1 million Iraqis. You stupidly claimed that Iraqis were better off under that mass murderer than under freedom now. What an utter hack you are.

Given that you claimed, among many comical false claims, that spending was lowest under of Obama than any other modern president, you're obviously completely full of crap.

Misty, on 22 Mar 2013 - 15:11, said:This baby might have had a better chance.Oh gosh, playing the baby card! How many babies starved under Saddam Hussein? Why don't you have pictures of them?How many innocent Iraqis were butchered under him? He was directly responsible for the deaths of roughly 1 million Iraqis.You stupidly claimed that Iraqis were better off under that mass murderer than under freedom now. What an utter hack you are.So, IOW you're saying that you're okay with the use of depleted uranium and white phosphorus by the Bush administration, and the ensuing results on children? Saddam was a bad man, so that makes it okay in your eyes.I can agree to the fact that Saddam was a bad man, while also acknowledging that Bush was wrong in what he did.Apparently those are two incongruous thoughts in your addled little brain.And you call me an utter hack?

GOP Chairman Suggests Mike Huckabee Should Be Party's Ambassador On Gay Rights Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus has been pressing the GOP to be more accepting of gay people, arguing that harsh rhetoric alienates young voters and jeopardizes the party's future. But on Friday, Priebus took a big step backward, telling the National Review that the party should take it's cues about social issues from former Arkansas governor and Baptist Minister Mike Huckabee: Priebus cited former governor Mike Huckabee of Arkansas as an example of someone who could be "a model for a lot of people in our party" in terms of discussing issues like marriage and abortion. "I always tell people: Listen to Governor Mike Huckabee," he said. "I don't know anyone that talks about them any better." Huckabee a hard line opponent of marriage equality and abortion rights uses a warmer and more congenial tone about gay people and women than firebrands like Rick Santorum or Rick Perry, urging conservatives to respect gays and women, even as they organize to deny them legal protections and benefits or access to a full spectrum of health care services. But as the public grows more accepting of same-sex relationships and Roe v Wade, Huckabee's positions and rhetoric about these issues is out of sync with the nation as a whole and will not serve the party well as it seeks to grow and appeal to more voters: On Marriage Equality: Being gay is a public health risk. "I feel homosexuality is an aberrant, unnatural, and sinful lifestyle, and we now know it can pose a dangerous public health risk." Being gay is a sin. "Well I believe it would be - just like lying is sinful and stealing is sinful. There are a lot of things that are sinful. It doesn't mean that a person is a horrible person. It means that they engage in behavior that is outside the norms of those boundaries of our traditional view of what's right and what's wrong. So, I think that anybody who has, maybe a traditional worldview of sexuality would classify that as an unusual behavior that is not traditional and that would be outside those bounds." Marriage equality will lead to polygamy. "If we change the definition to a man or a man and a woman and a woman, why cant we accommodate a man and two women or a woman and three men." On Abortion: Supported Todd Akin. "The Party's leaders have for reasons that aren't rational, left [Akin] behind on the political battlefieldIs this what the party really thinks of principled pro-life advocates?" Would ban abortion even in cases of incest or rape. In 2011, Huckabee traveled to Jackson, Mississippi to raise money for the Yes on 26 campaign, "in support of the Mississippi Personhood amendment, a referendum on the November ballot that would ban abortions in the state" even in cases of rape or incest. Compares abortion to slavery. "What are we saying to the generation coming after us when we tell them that it is perfectly OK for one person to own another human being?" Huckabee said. "I thought we dealt with that 150 years ago when the issue of slavery was finally settled in this country, and we decided that it no longer was a political issue, it wasn't an issue of geography, it was an issue of morality. That it was either right or it was immoral that one person could own another human being and have full control even to the point of life and death over that other human being." What's next, making Newt Gingrich the party's ambassador on fidelity and monogamy? When will these pinheads get it, that it's not about their 'tone' it's about their policies?

North Dakota Republicans Will Join Pro-Choice Rally To Protest New Abortion Restrictions North Dakota lawmakers recently passed the worst abortion ban in the nation, outlawing the legal medical procedure after just six weeks of pregnancy, and are currently advancing an even more stringent "personhood" restriction to ban all abortion services altogether. But not all of the state's legislators support North Dakota's recent shift toward a far-right anti-abortion agenda. Spearheaded by state Rep. Kathy Hawken (R-Fargo), a group a Republican politicians are speaking out against the new affronts to women's reproductive rights. Hawken and her fellow GOP lawmakers think their party has "stepped over the line" with the new restrictions, and will join a "Stand Up for Women" rally on Monday to raise their voices in opposition. As Hawken explained to the Huffington Post, she believes the new bans are too extreme, and simply distract lawmakers from the real legislative priorities they ought to be tackling in North Dakota: "Its to say, hey, this isn't okay. We have stepped over the line," said state Rep. Kathy Hawken (R-Fargo) in a phone interview with The Huffington Post. "One of the key tenets of the Republican Party is personal responsibility. I'm personally pro-life, but I vote pro-choice, because you can't make that decision for anyone else. You just can't. [...] Hawken said the personhood bills are so extreme that she and approximately 10 of her Republican colleagues in the state legislature both men and women - were inspired to speak out in defense of women's rights. "North Dakota hasn't even passed a primary seatbelt law, but we have the most invasive attack on women's health anywhere," she said. "I got a letter yesterday from a pharmacist who said, 'We dont want to be in jail because we prescribed something!' Were spending an inordinate amount of time on social or personal issues, however you want to put it, but we haven't done anything on property tax relief, higher education funding, fixing the roads. There are all kinds of other things we need to be doing besides this." Now that the 2012 elections have passed, anti-abortion groups have been pressuring Republicans to focus on advancing their agenda in the new legislative session. GOP lawmakers have complied in states like North Dakota, Arkansas, and Kansas - but as Hawken and her colleagues reveal, the legislation that's cropping up this year is going too far even for some members of the Republican party. Hawken described herself as a "strong fiscal conservative" and noted that she's not thrilled about the prospect of spending state money to defend abortion restrictions in court. That's the same reason Arkansas Gov. Mike Beebe (D) chose to veto the new abortion restrictions in his state, although the anti-choice lawmakers overrode him to enact those unconstitutional bans anyway. UPDATE: The personhood measure passed the North Dakota House today by a 57-35 vote. Since it already made its way though the states Senate last month, the legislation will now head to GOP Gov. Jack Dalrymples desk. North Dakota is the first state in the country to pass a personhood abortion ban. WOW! When the members of your own party think that you have 'stepped over the line' with a piece of legislation, that's saying something. Good on these lawmakers for joining the "Stand Up for Women" rally and helping to expose the GOP's war on women.