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onlyaladd » 17 Aug 2016 2:09 pm » wrote:And Trump defended Bill at the time. So what?

golfboy » 17 Aug 2016 2:23 pm » wrote: Yea, Bill was a rapist. So what?

onlyaladd » 17 Aug 2016 2:59 pm » wrote: Maybe you should save that for a time when you catch me defending Bill like Trump did.

Donald Trump’s Strange New Attack On Hillary Clinton Echoes White Supremacists

In a major foreign policy speech on Monday, which offered few details and many inaccuracies, GOP nominee Donald Trump attacked his Democratic opponent’s stance on immigration and refugees by comparing her to the chancellor of Germany. “Hillary Clinton wants to be America’s Angela Merkel,” he said.

He fired off two press releases that same day calling Clinton “America’s Merkel,” and took to Twitter to warn of the dangers of #AmericasMerkel.

The line of attack “baffled” political analysts, who wondered why Trump would possibly think referencing a largely-unknown European leader Merkel would help him win votes in the United States.

A Pew Study last year found that “Germany is not on the radar of many Americans,” with more than a third reporting “no opinion” of Merkel at all.

But there is at least one group of Americans well familiar with Merkel, her immigration policies, and her connections to Hillary Clinton: white supremacists.

To white nationalist communities that fervently support Trump, Merkel has been a popular villain.

Sites like the Daily Stormer, the White Genocide Project, American Renaissance, and The White Resister have posted constantly about her since the Syrian refugee crisis began escalating earlier this year.

They have accused her of making a “deliberate attempt to turn Germany from a majority White country into a minority White country.”

They have called her a “crazy childless bitch,” “Anti-White Traitor,” and “patron saint of terrorists.”

They have asked in articles about her, “Why would you allow a woman to run a country, unless you were doing it as a joke?”

roadkill » 17 Aug 2016 1:59 pm » wrote: In other news........Yadda, yadda, yadda.......

golfboy » 17 Aug 2016 3:07 pm » wrote: You just did, when you said "so what".
Own your words.

onlyaladd » 17 Aug 2016 3:33 pm » wrote:Obviously either you are not smart enough to understand my comment or you are being intentionally dishonnest.

Misty » 17 Aug 2016 3:35 pm » wrote: I vote the second one.
No wait, maybe the first one.
Actually I think it's a combo of the two.

Now GB will say that I don't ignore him and I DO read his posts because I responded to your post.
I guess he's too stupid to realize that I can see his posts when someone quotes him.
When I have a choice to read them, I pass.

golfboy » 17 Aug 2016 3:48 pm » wrote: See? How did Misty know that I commented about how she reads my posts, and responds to them by commenting to someone else?
. Sorry Misty, you once again admit the truth.

onlyaladd » 17 Aug 2016 4:00 pm » wrote: Lol see was right you are too stupid to realize why she can see that one. Damn bro she called it and you proved her right. Too funny.

onlyaladd » 17 Aug 2016 4:00 pm » wrote: Lol she was right you are too stupid to realize why she can see that one. Damn bro she called it and you proved her right. Too funny.

Huey » 17 Aug 2016 4:15 pm » wrote:
A few months ago she tripped herself up so bad and got caught on this lie. She reads our posts of her own free will. It don't take but a second to throw the ignore switch and post a screen shot.

onlyaladd » 17 Aug 2016 4:25 pm » wrote: You can bypass ignore on individual posts

GOP speechwriter may vote for Hillary Clinton

Weeks after the end of the 2016 GOP convention, I am confronted by an inconvenient fact: Despite what I wrote in that nationally televised speech about Hillary Clinton, I may yet have to vote for her because of the epic deficiencies of my own party's nominee.

A NY Times investigation found that Donald Trump's US business empire holds at least $650 million in debt.

A New York Times investigation into Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump's US real-estate holdings revealed that companies he owns have at least $650 million in debt — twice the amount that Trump's public filings, made as part of his campaign, show.

Trump's dealings also depend on a variety of sources, one of which he has repeatedly attacked during his campaign: China, The Times found.

Aside from revealing more information about Trump's complex business web, the investigation also shed light on how much remains "shrouded in mystery," according to The Times, as well as the potential shortcomings of the Federal Election Commission's (FEC) financial-disclosure form for candidates.

Among the specifics, The Times reports that:

An office building in Manhattan, which Trump partly owns, carries a $950 million loan, partially overseen by the Bank of China, one of the largest in the country.

A "substantial portion" of Trump's wealth stems from three partnerships that owe another $2 billion.

While Trump may not be held personally liable if the loans went into default, the value of his investments would drop.

In 2015, Trump borrowed $160 million from Ladder Capital, a small New York firm, which his financial-disclosure form simply lists as valued at more than $50 million.

The publication found three instances where Trump had ownership interest in a building but did not disclose the related debt. Of these investments, one again involves a partial loan from the Bank of China.

While the full terms of Trump's partnerships remain unknown, loans connected with them reach $1.95 billion, according to various public documents cited by The Times. Allen Weisselberg, however, told The Times that neither Trump nor the company were responsible for these debts.

The Times notes that the fact that the publication found a substantial increase in debt relates more to what the FEC form asks of candidates rather than any fault of Trump.

The form requires candidates disclose their assets and debts in ranges up to $50 million, instead of precise numbers.

The Trump Organization's chief financial officer, Weisselberg, also told The Times that debts for properties where a Trump company owned less than a 100% stake were not disclosed on the form.

For the investigation, The Times partnered with national property-information firm RedVision Systems to search publicly available data on more than 30 US properties, identified through Federal Election Commission (FEC) filings and information provided by Trump, like filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).

Although the investigation covered a variety of documents and records, The Times concentrated on commercial holdings, such as office towers, golf courses, residential properties, and other endeavors, but exempted Trump's businesses outside the US.