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larryc12 » 22 Oct 2016 8:06 am » wrote: Why do you and others keep making it look like I square anything that Trump has done? How many times do I have to tell you that he's an asshole who has done assholish things to and with women?
It's certainly NOT acceptable with me, nor has it ever been. The point remains that we are going to be stuck with one of them and forgive me for thinking we will be better off with an asshole with women than a person who willingly puts lives at risk for the sake of private emailing to hide her ****. That wreaks of evil and as **** as Trump's behavior with women has been, it doesn't get to that level. So what's more important to you?

My **** conscience, lar. It is MOST important to me. And if you had any moral backbone at all, you would refuse to vote for either of them as well. Instead, you prostitute your own self-proclaimed standards of morality by convincing yourself that a sexual predator's behavior is ACCEPTABLE enough to vote for. You are no better than the Dems who will vote for a political criminal to keep a sex offender and carnival barker from the job.

Moral relativists. You make me sick.

greatnpowerfuloz » 22 Oct 2016 9:08 am » wrote:
My **** conscience, lar. It is MOST important to me. And if you had any moral backbone at all, you would refuse to vote for either of them as well. Instead, you prostitute your own self-proclaimed standards of morality by convincing yourself that a sexual predator's behavior is ACCEPTABLE enough to vote for. You are no better than the Dems who will vote for a political criminal to keep a sex offender and carnival barker from the job.

Moral relativists. You make me sick.

Doesn't mean much coming from a turd like you who said Americans like to watch people die. You make me sicker oz!


You probably believe the media when they attack Trump for not saying he would accept the results of the election if Hillary wins...the MSM is making it sound like only Trump did this...multiple democrats have done the same thing...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTof6-UKCpI

greatnpowerfuloz » 22 Oct 2016 9:08 am » wrote: My **** conscience, lar. It is MOST important to me. And if you had any moral backbone at all, you would refuse to vote for either of them as well. Instead, you prostitute your own self-proclaimed standards of morality by convincing yourself that a sexual predator's behavior is ACCEPTABLE enough to vote for. You are no better than the Dems who will vote for a political criminal to keep a sex offender and carnival barker from the job.

Moral relativists. You make me sick.

Your conscience? LIAR.

You have had very little to say about a candidate, Clinton, that represents most everything you have condemned about politicians for years. Pay for play, bribes, lying, enriching herself thru her office, corporate greed, buddying up to wall street, etc. The best youcan muster, and I am paraphrasing, is a simplistic HILARY IS BAD.

FOR YEARS,you have insulted and belittled posters over support of the above "qualities". So **** you and your conscious wench. You have no values or do your have morals. The next time you lecture us on any of those qualities it will be laughable. You will be reminded of your silence.

Huey » 21 Oct 2016 11:42 pm » wrote:
Wiilie, as usual, you prove how irrelevant you are to this forum. dismiss? Lol!!!!

Ignore and discarded is more like it, Franklin.

Again, you stated there was fear Clinton would loser voters, if not to suggest
losing, then what was your point? Why else would anyone fear her losing voters,
which was your claim. You also ignored my address to your repugnant assessment of the
“disingenuous groping tale”. Clinton is clearly not losing voters, people who do not find
her acceptable like myself, decided that before the primary was even over. They'll write
in their candidate of choice like me or vote third party.

As the links I provided you demonstrates, Trump will lose due to his words and actions
and his base is abandoning him.The former Federal Prosecutors , all Republicans tells you
what they think of Trump's ethics. Oh, btw, I believe you were demanding Trumps words
from the Access Hollywood video in context, the transcript was included in my list as well.

Your cowardly response earlier is understandable, considering your character.

Repeated:

I doubt anyone is afraid Clinton will lose, period. Trump will never be president.
Everyone knows Hillary Clinton and the wikileaks and all her baggage. Trump would
need one of those god miracle thingies...doesn't seem he likely.

That you refer to the problem as the disingenuous groping tale is stunning.

The reason he will lose is more to do with his inability to expand beyond his base and his base has also eroded
among conservative and or Christian voters...especially with women. His first debate performance prior to
the video leaked and subsequent debate performances only added to that erosion. The fact he threatened
to prosecute Clinton, add the women who have accused him who have come forward, that's not going away.
There are also former beauty pageant contestants who spoke about him entering their dressing rooms. There
is more, but I think you get the point. The audience he needs has turned him off permanently, through
his words, his actions.

Liberty University students protest association with Trump

Students at Liberty University
have issued a statement against Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump
as young conservatives at colleges across the state reconsider support for his campaign.
A statement issued late Wednesday by the group Liberty United Against Trump
strongly rebuked the candidate as well as the school’s president, Jerry Falwell Jr., for defending Trump
after he made extremely lewd comments about women in a 2005 video. The students
wrote that Falwell’s support for Trump
had cast a stain on the school’s reputation.
“We are Liberty students who are disappointed with President Falwell’s endorsement and are tired of being associated with one of the worst presidential candidates in American history,” the statement said. “Donald Trump does not represent our values and we want nothing to do with him.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/gra ... ald-trump

NO: Falwell responds to student petition asking him to dump Trump by Staff | 16 October, 2016
http://christianexaminer.com/article/no ... /51147.htm

This has been trending for awhile..below is an editorial from National Catholic Reporter.


http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/tru ... d-clinton/

Dozens of Republican former federal prosecutors condemn Donald Trump for his threat to jail Hillary Clinton You know Trump crossed a line when former Bush administration lawyer John Yoo compared him to an "early Mussolini" VIDEO

http://www.salon.com/2016/10/12/dozens- ... y-clinton/

NCR Editorial Staff

| Aug. 8, 2016

With fewer than three months remaining in this quite strange political season, the question is: Will we acquiesce to a new normal in which all previous boundaries of decency and propriety are obliterated, where ignorance of policy and disdain for statecraft is applauded and in which no attack on the opposition is deemed too coarse?

Donald Trump has tipped the balance from the outlandish to the unacceptable. He has pushed us all beyond the limits that we tried desperately to maintain in recent years as we conjured up equivalencies where they really don't exist in strained efforts at political fairness and rectitude.
It is dangerous to view any era of U.S. politics as unique. Our presidential history is seeded heavily with scoundrels, egomaniacs and incompetents as well as with men of great vision and noble purpose. And, more often than not, the virtues and vices entwined. Our politics has been forever partisan and often consisted of bitter differences.
The failed yearning to rise above such divides goes back to the founders. Jon Meacham, in his impressive biography, Thomas Jefferson: The Art of Power
, concludes of the third president's unsuccessful efforts to bridge partisan divides: "The Founders' dream of a nation beyond partisanship was one that simply could not survive the very nature of a free politics in a culture of diverse interests."
https://www.ncronline.org/news/politics ... ys-dignity

Powerful Evangelical Women Split From Male Church Leaders to Slam TrumpAmong conservative evangelicals, women like Beth Moore are splitting from men
and asking of them: ‘When will you believe me and stand up for me?’
Joshua DuBois10.10.16 1:49 PM ET
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... -news.html

On edit: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/do ... .html?_r=0
Transcript: Donald Trump’s Taped Comments About Women

greatnpowerfuloz » 22 Oct 2016 9:08 am » wrote:
My **** conscience, lar. It is MOST important to me. And if you had any moral backbone at all, you would refuse to vote for either of them as well. Instead, you prostitute your own self-proclaimed standards of morality by convincing yourself that a sexual predator's behavior is ACCEPTABLE enough to vote for. You are no better than the Dems who will vote for a political criminal to keep a sex offender and carnival barker from the job.

Moral relativists. You make me sick.

Who said I was voting for either of them? Your usual drawing something out of thin air, that's who. Now you've gone and said that Trump's past is "acceptable enough" right after I said that it's unacceptable, period. I'm just asking....who is worse? And...btw...I'll be crying myself to sleep thinking about a hypocrite that says I make her sick....

roadkill » 22 Oct 2016 9:53 am » wrote:
Doesn't mean much coming from a turd like you who said Americans like to watch people die. You make me sicker oz!

You probably believe the media when they attack Trump for not saying he would accept the results of the election if Hillary wins...the MSM is making it sound like only Trump did this...multiple democrats have done the same thing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTof6-UKCpI

Well, she takes the moral high ground - her conscience. Doesn't that make you feel inferior to her?

larryc12 » 22 Oct 2016 10:06 am » wrote: Who said I was voting for either of them? Your usual drawing something out of thin air, that's who. Now you've gone and said that Trump's past is "acceptable enough" right after I said that it's unacceptable, period. I'm just asking....who is worse? And...btw...I'll be crying myself to sleep thinking about a hypocrite that says I make her sick....

I notice a new meme with the lefties. They want Trump to lose. The only way that can happen of course is for Clinton to win. In order to attack the trumpies they are now demeaning morals, values, etc to make themselves feel better.

They want Hillary, and those who are claiming they are not voting for her either live in states that she will anyway or not even reside in the country. Then you have Ozzie continually throwing out the term Sexual Predator. This is based on the accusations of women whose stories have been largely debunked. The Airplane? Debunked. The Ray Charles concert incident? T\ere wasn't even a ray charles concert on the evening in question. And when you ask Ozzie to post the infamous quotes, in context, and entirety, she bolts.

Now, yo want to talk hypocrites? This wench has hammered politicians for years over the behavior hillary exhibits. SHe has demeaned and belittled posters for supporting the same. And the best she can muster about hillary is she is bad.

She can cry me a **** river of jommy swaggart crocodile tears over her conscious, alleged morals, and what she claims makes her sick.

Huey » 22 Oct 2016 10:16 am » wrote:
I notice a new meme with the lefties. They want Trump to lose. The only way that can happen of course is for Clinton to win. In order to attack the trumpies they are now demeaning morals, values, etc to make themselves feel better.

They want Hillary, and those who are claiming they are not voting for her either live in states that she will anyway or not even reside in the country. Then you have Ozzie continually throwing out the term Sexual Predator. This is based on the accusations of women whose stories have been largely debunked. The Airplane? Debunked. The Ray Charles concert incident? T\ere wasn't even a ray charles concert on the evening in question. And when you ask Ozzie to post the infamous quotes, in context, and entirety, she bolts.

Now, yo want to talk hypocrites? This wench has hammered politicians for years over the behavior hillary exhibits. SHe has demeaned and belittled posters for supporting the same. And the best she can muster about hillary is she is bad.

She can cry me a **** river of jommy swaggart crocodile tears over her conscious, alleged morals, and what she claims makes her sick.

When the Bill Cosby story broke oz tried to separate Bill Clinton from criticism.


I put the pressure on oz and she had no choice but to re-post and change her meme.

That event made me realize that oz was a stooge.

roadkill » 22 Oct 2016 10:31 am » wrote: When the Bill Cosby story broke oz tried to separate Bill Clinton from criticism.

I put the pressure on oz and she had no choice but to re-post and change her meme.

That event made me realize that oz was a stooge.

She has to be a stooge. Clinton represents everything she has whined about for years. Everything political. Yet she can't find her way to criticize her on actual details.

larryc12 » 22 Oct 2016 8:32 am » wrote:Not projecting, showing the hypocrisy of your accusation of vindictiveness. He probably is indeed a vindictive prick, but Hillary has been showing her claws for decades now. If you deny that, then all I can say is enjoy your irrational state. It's obvious to me that you would rather have a person who turns her back on real lives, who aids enemies for her financial gain, and who lies to the American people over and over again - this person who would be Commander-in-Chief of the United States Armed Forces. You would rather have that person than a prick who has been abusive of women, even though you had no problem with a prick who was in office and abusive to women. I have no use whatsoever for an asshole in office, but I cannot abide evil in office. You can. Apparently those abused women are more important than American lives lost for her felonious behaviors, for Bill's and her deals for Uranium 1 to our enemies, or all the other corruption exposed. Pretty bad, Misty.

And you would rather have a crazy person in the White House, so how does that make you any better than me?

Misty » 22 Oct 2016 3:34 pm » wrote: And you would rather have a crazy person in the White House, so how does that make you any better than me?

What? Crazy in your loinfo, ideologically driven opinion that you have been instructed to believe?

Would you rather have a candidate that will further shred the constitution? Oh, wait, you would.

My bad. That pesky document is a hinderance to your goals.

larryc12 » 22 Oct 2016 7:55 am » wrote:I have never defended the man for any of his doings, so you can stop trying to turn false tables on me. You're the one who relentlessly defends the whore who sold out American lives in various ways, and that makes you as bad as she other than hopefully not doing those things yourself. Why won't you answer my questions?

I don't answer questions that are based on false premises.

Misty » 22 Oct 2016 3:42 pm » wrote: I don't answer questions that are based on false premises.

Your entire posting schtick is based on loinfo false premises. You wouldn't know a real issue if it grabbed your cooter.

Misty » 22 Oct 2016 3:34 pm » wrote: And you would rather have a crazy person in the White House, so how does that make you any better than me?

Because I'm not defending evil, that's how.

larryc12 » 22 Oct 2016 7:03 pm » wrote:Because I'm not defending evil, that's how.

Oh, I know.
She's the devil and she smells like sulfur.
You sound like crazy Alex Jones now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8TyLGoiUwg

Misty » 23 Oct 2016 4:44 pm » wrote: Oh, I know.
She's the devil and she smells like sulfur.
You sound like crazy Alex Jones now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8TyLGoiUwg

You don't think it is evil to intimidate, disparage and attack victims of sexual assault for personal political gain?

Today at his Doral resort the Tangerine Nightmare said, "All of my employees are having a tremendous problem with Obamacare. I mean you look at what they’re going through. What they’re going through with their health care is horrible because of Obamacare. So we’ll repeal it and replace it.”

Later today he told FOX News “Well, I don’t use much Obamacare, I must be honest with you, because it is so bad for the people and they can’t afford it. And like, for instance, I’m at Trump National Doral in Miami, and we don’t even use Obamacare. We don’t want it. The people don’t want it and I spend more money on health coverage, but we don’t use it.”

Apparently this genius knows nothing about the ACA and nothing about whether his own business provides health insurance for his employees.

Or maybe he does and was just lying as usual.

Chris Christie Is Over



Even though 2016 appears to be the year of painful, public disqualification from higher office, you may be forgiven for not noticing the extraordinary implosion of New Jersey Governor Chris Christie.

After all, the Trump surrogate and White House Transition chair has benefitted from his early endorsement of the Republican presidential nominee in unusual fashion: Christie’s power in the Grand Ole Party has decreased, rather than increased.

The likelihood of a plum position in the Trump administration—Attorney General, perhaps, since Christie was spurned as the Republican running mate—is decidedly dim, what with the presently apocalyptic predictions about November 8.

Instead, Trump’s gift to Christie has been shadow: the top Republican’s national meltdown has obscured that of the one-time rising Republican star and sitting New Jersey governor.

But make no mistake—Christie’s is a fall of epic proportions, precipitated by an unfathomably petty revenge plot. The contrast of the two, the top-heavy-ness of the fallout compared to the insignificance of the initial transgression, would be comic, were it not so tragic.

Remember that in November of 2012, Governor Christie had a 72 percent approval rating. Today, it stands at 21 percent.

While most of America has been busy digesting a nearly-daily intake of sexual assault allegations, paranoid screeds about a rigged election, and a wildly vituperative back and forth between party elders and their Republican leader, Governor Christie’s political career has been quietly, steadily unraveling.

Read more at link in title.

Misty » 25 Oct 2016 6:40 pm » wrote:Today at his Doral resort the Tangerine Nightmare said, "All of my employees are having a tremendous problem with Obamacare. I mean you look at what they’re going through. What they’re going through with their health care is horrible because of Obamacare. So we’ll repeal it and replace it.”

Later today he told FOX News “Well, I don’t use much Obamacare, I must be honest with you, because it is so bad for the people and they can’t afford it. And like, for instance, I’m at Trump National Doral in Miami, and we don’t even use Obamacare. We don’t want it. The people don’t want it and I spend more money on health coverage, but we don’t use it.”

Apparently this genius knows nothing about the ACA and nothing about whether his own business provides health insurance for his employees.

Or maybe he does and was just lying as usual.

Somewhere in that convoluted mess, the truth exists.

I doubt he offers a comprehensive private health care package for his low wage employees so their only option is go with Obamacare or have nothing. As the majority of his employees would be in that category as waitresses, bell hops, golf caddies and the like,these employees would be eligible for subsidies. I don't see how they could have many complaints about not being able to afford it (unless he is paying them virtual peanuts) but no doubt are obligated to say differently if their narcissistic boss asks.

greatnpowerfuloz » 25 Oct 2016 7:38 pm » wrote:Somewhere in that convoluted mess, the truth exists.
I doubt he offers a comprehensive private health care package for his low wage employees so their only option is go with Obamacare or have nothing. As the majority of his employees would be in that category as waitresses, bell hops, golf caddies and the like,these employees would be eligible for subsidies. I don't see how they could have many complaints about not being able to afford it (unless he is paying them virtual peanuts) but no doubt are obligated to say differently if their narcissistic boss asks.

The general manager of Trump Doral said that they provide health insurance for over 90% of their employees.



http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/25/politics/ ... employees/

They can't seem to get their stories straight.