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Misty » 20 Dec 2016 4:12 pm » wrote:Are you calling a Wall Street Journal poll fake news?

Termin8tor » 19 Dec 2016 9:56 pm » wrote:You're kidding, right? Here are your admitted words:

"Didn't John Fund molest his girlfriend's daughter?"

So you really want to defend yourself over a minor grammatical difference? Anyone reading that will assume Fund is a child molester.

Misty » 20 Dec 2016 4:23 pm » wrote:Why do you ignore the fact that right after I said that, I looked into the story and found out that his girlfriend's daughter was an adult and I said so on the forum.

Yet you have continued to beat me over the head for 8 **** years, because I had the audacity to ask a question about something I wasn't sure about.

Misty » 20 Dec 2016 4:23 pm » wrote:You are the one who continues to defend a man who bedded a young woman who was the daughter of his ex-girlfriend and still long time friend, and who saw him as a father figure.
You call a man that had sex with both a mother and her daughter a man of 'high integrity.'

Misty » 20 Dec 2016 4:23 pm » wrote:You are the one who continues to defend a man who bedded a young woman who was the daughter of his ex-girlfriend and still long time friend, and who saw him as a father figure.
You call a man that had sex with both a mother and her daughter a man of 'high integrity.'
I call such a man a piece of ****.

Misty » 20 Dec 2016 4:06 pm » wrote: Can't defend the Liar-In-Chief, can you?

Termin8tor » 20 Dec 2016 4:42 pm » wrote: The woman was in her '30's by that time, long after the affair with her mother was over.

golfboy » 20 Dec 2016 4:45 pm » wrote: Please don't introduce facts into an emotional argument.

Misty » 19 Dec 2016 12:07 pm » wrote:Is he absolutely right when he says that the murder rate is the highest it's been in 45 years?

Misty » 19 Dec 2016 12:47 pm » wrote: Where's the proof of all of this massive voter fraud Puss?

Bush's Justice Dept. tried for 5 years to prove it, and they came up empty.

Drug firms poured 780M painkillers into WV amid rise of overdoses.

Follow the pills and you'll find the overdose deaths.

The trail of painkillers leads to West Virginia's southern coalfields, to places like Kermit, population 392.

There, out-of-state drug companies shipped nearly 9 million highly addictive — and potentially lethal — hydrocodone pills over two years to a single pharmacy in the Mingo County town.

Rural and poor, Mingo County has the fourth-highest prescription opioid death rate of any county in the United States.

The trail also weaves through Wyoming County, where shipments of OxyContin have doubled, and the county's overdose death rate leads the nation.

One mom-and-pop pharmacy in Oceana received 600 times as many oxycodone pills as the Rite Aid drugstore just eight blocks away.

In six years, drug wholesalers showered the state with 780 million hydrocodone and oxycodone pills, while 1,728 West Virginians fatally overdosed on those two painkillers, a Sunday Gazette-Mail investigation found.

The unfettered shipments amount to 433 pain pills for every man, woman and child in West Virginia.
[.......]
As the fatalities mounted — hydrocodone and oxycodone overdose deaths increased 67 percent in West Virginia between 2007 and 2012 — the drug shippers' CEOs collected salaries and bonuses in the tens of millions of dollars.

Their companies made billions.

Read more at link in title.

Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn Met With Leader Of Austrian Party Founded By Ex-Nazis At Trump Tower

President-elect Donald Trump’s incoming national security adviser met with the leader of a far-right Austrian political party founded by ex-Nazis at Trump Tower a few weeks ago, the New York Times reported Monday.

Heinz-Christian Strache wrote on his Facebook page that he had met with retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn in Trump Tower.

Strache also recently signed a so-called "cooperation agreement" with Russian President Vladimir Putin’s political party, which outlined plans for regular meetings and established cooperation on joint projects over five years, according to the Times.

Leaders of the Freedom Party have argued forcefully for lifting all sanctions against Russia.

Misty » 20 Dec 2016 8:15 pm » wrote:
Putin and the Nazis.
The Trump team keeps such good company.

Sex, Lies, and the Tape: The John Fund Story

by John Connolly

Sept. 4, 2001 - When the stone thrower himself lives in a glass house, it is a matter of legitimate public interest.

John Fund, the forty-six year old writer on the staff of the Wall Street Journal's editorial page, has staked out a position as a man of integrity.

On his frequent appearances on cable and network talk shows, he espouses the position of the right-wing conservatives.

He is friends with people in the Bush White House.

He is a dear friend of Conservative Grover Norquist.

He recently met with Vice President Dick Cheney. During the Clinton presidency he wrote often of the terrible acts committed by Clinton against women.

On his appearances on Television evangelist Pat Robertson's 700 Club show, he often condemns those who do not live up to the highest moral standards.

This conservative pundit seems to be on television more often than I Love Lucy reruns.

Although he portrays himself as a voice of the religious right, the never-married Fund has cut a wide swath of sexual relationships throughout the Libertarian and Conservative parties.

He's a regular right-wing Lothario.

He is also a hypocrite.

There is nothing newsworthy about consensual sex between two unmarried adults, even if one of those supposed adults acts badly.

But, when a high profile public person stakes out the moral high ground, that person had better not be standing on quick sand.

A few months age, Morgan Pillsbury, a twenty-seven year old woman, contacted me with information about her former lover of three years, John Fund.

Although I had heard stories of Fund's less-than-cavalier treatment of women and particularly his Clintonesque treatment of one particular woman, I did not think that information worthy of a story.

Amusing gossip, yes -- newsworthy, no.

But the story Morgan told gave me pause.

If her allegations were true, Fund's relationship with her was not only bizarre; it was treacherous and bordered on the perverse.

To back up her story of the bad behavior of John Fund, she furnished me with a tape recording she made of a conversation she had with Fund.

The tape and conversations with Morgan's' mother, Melinda Pillsbury-Foster, and others confirmed Morgan's tale.

Twenty years ago, Melinda and John Fund both worked for the then fledgling Libertarian party in California.

Fund was the executive director of the local party in Sacramento. Melinda, who at the time was the mother of four children, began sexual relationship with the much younger Fund. Melinda said, "John and I had a sexual relationship for four or five years.

When he moved east, we remained friends.

It never really ended." Melinda, who is still active in the Libertarian party, went on to say, "Six or seven years ago, John called and during the conversation he told me, 'Melinda, if any of your children come east, have them look me up.'

I didn't realize that he was using me as a dating service!"

Last year Melinda learned that not only had Fund been sleeping with Morgan, he was the father of the child she would abort.

Not only had Fund violated his twenty-year-old friendship with Melinda Pillsbury-Foster, he, much like Congressman Gary Condit (Fund recently wrote a scathing indictment of Condit's behavior), insisted that Morgan keep their three-year-affair secret.

Morgan was 23 the first time the then-43-year-old Fund took her to bed.

Sounds all too familiar, doesn't it?

According to Morgan, John Fund was the third man she had been intimate with.

She had contacted him when she moved to the New York area after a bad breakup with her previous boyfriend.

Instead of receiving consolation from the man who had on occasion been her baby-sitter back in California, Fund took her to bed.

In 1999, confronted with an unplanned and apparently unwanted pregnancy, Fund abandoned Morgan and, without attempting to dissuade her, allowed the distraught young women to have an abortion without any support from him.

John Fund is a full time writer for the Wall Street Journal.

Yet, when I began researching a profile on Mr. Fund, he -- unlike most other journalists -- began a campaign to kill the story.

A source close to Fund told me a few days ago that Fund and a confederate were attempting to plant a false and malicious blind item about two people at Talk magazine.

They believed that the item would so frighten the victims that they would see to it that my profile of Mr. Fund was spiked.

Mr. Fund and his pals can congratulate themselves -- to protect innocent people from being attacked; I have pulled the piece from Talk magazine.

Hence this abbreviated piece which is written solely to introduce the reader to John Fund on tape with Morgan Pillsbury, the mother of the aborted child.

So that there should be no confusion, this tape was made legally and given to me by Morgan Pillsbury.

Ms. Pillsbury also gave me her permission to use her name, as did her mother Melinda Pillsbury-Foster.

I have learned that very recently Ms. Pillsbury, who has experienced some financial difficulties, has at Fund's request moved in with him.

John Fund lives in an apartment in Jersey City, just a stone's throw from the Holland Tunnel.

I have also been told that Mr. Fund, for whatever reason, has given Morgan cash and a new computer.

The following is a transcription of the tape of Morgan Pillsbury and John Fund.

Mr. Fund makes mention of how he is being threatened by Melinda.

He apparently believes that Melinda has no right to be angry for his deceiving her for three years, all the while sleeping with, and impregnation her oldest child.

For those who doubt the veracity of the transcript or wish to hear the anger and seething hostility of John Fund, Please listen to the audio tape.

Termin8tor » 20 Dec 2016 4:39 pm » wrote:A woman in her '30's seduced him, psycho.

Cannonpointer » 20 Dec 2016 1:21 pm » wrote:Misty quotes the Constitution and the Economist - you respond with blather.
How typical.

Misty » 15 Dec 2016 11:48 am » wrote:You might want to study up on the Emoluments Clause.

http://www.heritage.org/constitution/#! ... nts-clause

http://www.economist.com/blogs/economis ... explains-2

Termin8tor » 20 Dec 2016 3:14 pm » wrote:It is not a "gift" for someone to stay at Trump's hotel or pay for a good or service.

Read the actual words in the Constitution.

Stupid Dim.

Termin8tor » 19 Dec 2016 9:59 pm » wrote: Save your legalistic bulls*** for the moonbats, psycho.
I quoted the dictionary definition, and a "rapist" to anyone with common sense or a dictionary is someone who has committed rape.

“I’ve known Jeff (Epstein) for 15 years,” Trump told New York Magazine in 2002.

Calling him a “terrific guy,” Trump continued, “He’s a lot of fun to be with.

It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.

No doubt about it—Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

Termin8tor » 20 Dec 2016 4:39 pm » wrote:A woman in her '30's seduced him, psycho.

He didn't seek her out, and that was many years after he'd had an affair with her mother.