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Termin8tor » 21 Dec 2016 10:34 am » wrote:I don't need to google it. I know that a lot of opinions have been expressed around it.
It's not a scandal, as you have implied. It's something that will be worked out.

Misty » 21 Dec 2016 11:36 am » wrote:Still Tweeting about this as of 8:15 this morning.
He just can't get past it.

Termin8tor » 21 Dec 2016 8:58 am » wrote:I'm dubious about her charge.....

Termin8tor » 20 Dec 2016 4:39 pm » wrote: I was referring to his long career as a journalist.

The Obamas reported about $400,000 in salary from his position as president and about $56,000 in income derived from Mr. Obama’s book sales.

Misty » 21 Dec 2016 11:36 am » wrote:Still Tweeting about this crap this morning.
He just can't get past the fact that he lost the popular vote by almost 3 million.

Misty » 21 Dec 2016 11:54 am » wrote:You drive people away in droves with your insane ranting and your obsessive behavior.
This is why you've been banned from so many forums.

Who Framed John Fund?By Eric Alterman.. Well, it’s a fact of life in our scandal-besotted culture that it does not take much in the way of evidence to publish charges that can ruin a man’s life.

....Over the past few weeks, I’ve received a set of documents from a close friend of Fund’s–now posted on the Internet–that demonstrate to almost any fair-minded person that Fund is probably the victim of a deeply disturbed person. In a signed affidavit, the woman in question–whose true age is 36, seven years older than was reported, and who was born Carolyn Anne Barteaux but carries a passport (a copy of which was provided to me by Fund) under the name Carolyn Anne Pillsbury and now goes by Morgan Francis Pillsbury–withdraws any accusations of physical abuse, accusations that resulted in Fund’s arrest. She also denies in the affidavit that they had ever planned to marry.

In a letter to the Wall Street Journal, she acknowledges that she has “trouble distinguishing between reality and fantasy” and in a sworn deposition, she says she has a “borderline personality disorder. One of the symptoms of this condition is an inability to discriminate truth from fiction.” In that same deposition, in response to the question, “What lies had you told in the past?” she answers, “Too many to name.”

https://www.thenation.com/article/who-framed-john-fund/

Misty » 21 Dec 2016 11:38 am » wrote:Still stalking me and trying to bully me by telling me which subjects I'm allowed to discuss?

Donald J. Trump’s Gangster Capitalism

By Rick Wilson

The self-enriching commander in chief is bringing his children into the family business as he puts the bully in the bully pulpit.

If you’re wondering if the new normal in American politics includes a president-elect rage-tweeting at companies he dislikes, engaging in near-dailyhissy-fits over media coverage he finds insufficiently obsequious, and engaging in constant social media warfare over slights to his ego, you’d be right.

Witness the emerging gangster capitalism of Donald Trump.

No one has felt much genuine shock that Donald Trump refuses to divest his control over his empire in a real, legally binding way.

Only a fool would believe Trump would draw a sharp, bright line between his personal and family financial interests and the interests of the nation.

Since the election, he’s demonstrated in both word and deed that he intends to fully monetize the presidency to benefit his companies, integrate his children into consequential government decisions, and put the bully in the bully pulpit.

Those things were expected as part of the skeezy, venal radiation Trump gives off when it comes to his business dealings.

Like many, I still expect that Trump is going to make Americans aware of the phrase “emoluments clause” like no one else in history.

For all that, the crony-capitalist (and bogus) Carrier deal and his new war on Boeing should make Washington’s dwindling tribe of conservatives dedicated to economic freedom take notice.

This isn’t just the wrong policy direction; it’s a preview of a new, dark economic populism that many warned was coming.

This week’s tweet war against Boeing came just 20 minutes after the aviation giant’s CEO Dennis Muilenburg was quoted expressing mild concern over the impending trade-war disaster Trump has promised.

You couldn’t miss the president-elect’s response:



In the interests of not normalizing post-truthiness, I must note that Trump’s statement was a lie from top to bottom.

Boeing isn’t over-budget on the new AF1 contract, Trump has no idea what he’s talking about, and arguing the point of his tweet misses his intent.

Three weeks after the election, every day is another day of the Theater of Trump, showing the contours of his extraordinary willingness to shatter Republican free-market ideals on the altar of his version of gangster capitalism.

It wasn’t that Boeing went to war with Trump, or shipped jobs overseas.

It’s that the bizarre, delicate ego of Donald J. Trump was offended by Muilenburg’s oblique worry about the trade war our next president seems determined to launch.

The tweet was one more piece of evidence that the next president isn’t going to even give the free market the time of day; instead, he’s embracing a state-capitalist flavor of populism where the president of the United States directly and personally intervenes in the governance of private businesses.

Trump’s new reality show is “You Bet Your Market Cap!”

Republicans and conservatives routinely engaged in fits of high dudgeon when Obama “picked winners and losers” on his favored green energy companies.

They stamped their feet when he attacked the CEOs of energy companies, insurance executives, and amputation-happy doctors.

Before the GOP became the party of Trump’s gangster capitalism, they weren’t perfect capitalists, but they at least paid lip service to the power of markets and capitalism.

Entire sectors of the Washington, D.C., conservative think-tank universe that exist entirely to defend and promote the values of economic liberty over the control of the economy by the state are booking events in Trump’s hotels and are remarkably silent over his daily apostasies to market economics.

We have a speaker of the House who until Trump was an admitted devotee of Ayn Rand.

We have members of the Senate and the House who have railed for not years, or decades, but for generations against crony capitalism, government intervention in markets, excessive regulation, and corporate welfare.

Today, they are born-again to the cult of Trumponomics.

They were often hypocritical about free markets, but now they’re not even pretending.

This is how the slippery slope looks: Trump blurts out a new attack outrage, and members of Congress with an “R” after their names either agree because he’s got one too, or tacitly allow it to slide.

Many of them hope they’ll be dealing with Pence, or some other relatively sane member of his cabinet.

They’re looking at Trump as a vector to pass the House agenda, as someone who they can “puppet,” in the words of one member of the House leadership.

The moral rot and compromise with Trump’s statist economics are already quite far gone.

Corporate leaders are making almost exactly the same mistake, hoping to flatter Trump or to at least avoid his wrath.

Some think their industry isn’t in his sights.

Some think they’re good with the House and Senate, and can avoid trouble.

Some believe their D.C. interest groups and lobbyists will have influence and can protect them.

Even Silicon Valley, which loves to believe it exists in a separate, parallel political universe thinks Trump is only interested in old-tech, legacy industries and will ignore them.

Some perhaps believe that he’ll be business-as-usual, a transactional politician who plays nicely in the D.C. lobbying ecosystem despite his public bluster.

They’re wrong, of course.

Trump and Steve Bannon, in particular, see the business class as the enemy.

They see corporate CEOs as either peers or foes, and the peers fall under the Machiavellian “enemies closer” rule.

Those confident they can buy, flatter, or avoid Trump are playing a game, unlike anything America’s corporate world has seen before.

They’re not reading Trump’s history.

Once Trump has “won” a feud (or an election) the normal rules of politics would be to return to the status quo ante.

Not Trump.

He continues to attack, belittle, and torture his victims long after there’s any political utility to it.

It will be the same with his thug populism and attacks on American businesses.

The fight won’t be over; capitulation isn’t enough.

He demands abject humiliation. (Take a look at the dead eyes of Mitt Romney during this secretary of State charade and tell me he hasn’t suffered enough.)

This behavior isn’t without precedent in the hands of authoritarians.

In the early days of Vladimir Putin’s reign, a number of billionaire oligarchs like Mikhail Khodorkovsky and Platon Lebedev of the massive Yukos oil concern crossed the Russian strongman.

Putin first turned the Russian media and propaganda machine against the men, then the power of the Russian courts, which—handily enough—he controlled.

At first, this was greeted as a populist new leader draining the swamp (where have I heard that lately?) and teaching the hated oligarch class a stiff lesson.

It didn’t stop there, though.

The already shaky post-Soviet commitment to reducing the terrible power of the state over the lives of its citizens was swiftly forgotten and as Putin’s attacks on his enemies were backed up by a media dedicated to his aggrandizement and protections, many bowed to the inevitable.

The reporters, civic activists, and others started to die, disappear, or be imprisoned.

Putin’s personal wealth grew as he destroyed his political opponents.

His image as a celebrity despot was carefully cultivated and polished. A rigid core of Putin voters loves him as the man who Made Russia Great Again. Sound familiar?

We’re not there yet, but the signs are clear enough, even before Trump has taken the oath of the most powerful office in the land.

Political, corporate, and media leaders who refuse to see—and speak out about—what’s coming, what’s etched in the behavior and character of this man, deserve their fates.

Fake news story inspires Trump supporters to threaten violence against Michigan Muslims

A fake news meme traveling around the internet is inspiring Donald Trump supporters in Dearborn, Michigan to incite violence against Muslims, Motor City Muckraker reports.

MCM’s Steve Neavling traced the meme to a Twitter user named “LATINA FOR TRUMP,” whose pinned tweet features a video of the anti-Muslim Christian apologist David Wood describing the time he was incarcerated and Dearborn police told him the city suffers from rampant honor killings, a claim the department emphatically denied.

A meme circulating also purports to show ISIS flags in Dearborn and asks people if they’re “paying attention.” One user commenting on the graphic replied “[Muslims] must b exterminated soon.”

Another insisted Dearborn “has become Sharia Law!”



Snopes.com debunked the ISIS photo last year, noting the photograph was in fact an anti-ISIS demonstration; hundreds of Arab American gathered in Dearborn in Dec. 2015 as part of a “peaceful protest against hate.”



The website similarly debunked the suggestion that Dearborn was “the first U.S. city to implement Sharia law” back in 2013, tracing the article back to a website called the National Report which bills its articles as “fiction, and presumably fake news.”

Misty » 21 Dec 2016 1:32 pm » wrote: Rick Wilson is a a longtime Republican political consultant who worked on the Super PAC backing Sen. Marco Rubio, or as Trump referred to him, 'Little Marco.'

Meltdown Day 2: Rick Wilson Asks Ann Coulter If Donald Trump ‘Pays More for Anal

Tuesday afternoon, Rick Wilson, a top Republican consultant who sometimes appears on CNN as an analyst, sent a tweet to conservative author and columnist Ann Coulter asking if Donald Trump pays her extra for anal sex. “Does Trump pay you more for anal?” Wilson tweeted.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... -for-anal/

Misty » 21 Dec 2016 11:05 am » wrote:

The same statement also appears on the Freedom Party's official website.


http://www.ots.at/presseaussendung/OTS_ ... -in-moskau

Maybe Golfboy can show you where the Trump organization has denied that the meeting took place Puss.
It's easy to just dismiss something without bothering to prove anything.

Misty » 21 Dec 2016 1:47 pm » wrote:Right wing flying monkeys are now trying to pin the 'FAKE NEWS' handle on mainstream media outlets.

'FAKE NEWS' has nothing to do with media bias or getting something wrong in a story.

Obama May Become First President Since Hoover Not to See 3% GDP Growth
By Terence P. Jeffrey
http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/terence-p-j ... gdp-growth

Misty » 21 Dec 2016 1:47 pm » wrote:Right wing flying monkeys are now trying to pin the 'FAKE NEWS' handle on mainstream media outlets.

golfboy » 21 Dec 2016 1:58 pm » wrote: That's because the liberal mainstream media IS fake news.
Remember when the MSM told us our soldiers were flushing Korans down the toilet, to torture Muslims? Fake news.
Remember the "fake but accurate" Dan Rather document attacking GW Bush?
Remember NBC editing the Zimmerman phone call, to make him appear racist?
How about the Rolling Stone rape story?
And my favorite! Hands up, don't shoot!!!

2 Former Flint Emergency Managers Charged Over Tainted Water

A criminal investigation into this city’s water crisis reached into the top ranks of supervision over Flint on Tuesday as Michigan officials announced felony charges against two former state-appointed emergency managers, accusing them of fixating on saving money rather than on the safety of residents.

The managers, who were appointed by Gov. Rick Snyder to lead Flint out of fiscal distress, were charged over their roles in the public health crisis prompted by the city’s switch to a new water source, as well as the delays in responding to residents’ complaints as they suffered the devastating effects.

Announcing the charges at a banquet center not far from the Flint River, Bill Schuette, the state’s attorney general, described “a fixation on finances and balance sheets” as at the root of what happened in Flint, where the water has been tied to the lead poisoning of children and the deaths of 12 people from Legionnaires’ disease.

“All too prevalent in this Flint water investigation was a priority on balance sheets and finances rather than health and safety of the citizens of Flint,” said Mr. Schuette, a Republican who is seen as a possible candidate for governor in 2018.

Charges of false pretenses, conspiracy to commit false pretenses, misconduct in office and willful neglect of duty lodged against the former managers, Darnell Earley and Gerald Ambrose, were lauded by Flint leaders, some of whom said they had feared that blame for the city’s contaminated water might ultimately be pinned only on low-level workers.

Misty » 21 Dec 2016 2:39 pm » wrote: The total number of indictments in Flint is now at 13.

But the Republican chairman of the House Oversight Committee, who said that he had two years of investigations lined up should Hillary Clinton have won the election, thinks that three hearings on Flint, where 12 people died and countless children will suffer the effects of lead poisoning for life, was enough.

He quietly shut down the hearings the other day and blamed the EPA.

House Republicans shut down investigation into Flint water crisis, blame EPA instead - After three hearings about how thousands of residents had their water contaminated, the GOP is satisfied.