Reagan made a side deal the the iranians - same ****. We'll lift the sanctions, end retaliations, give you **** missile technology - just don't let the hostages go on Carter's watch.#ShePersisted » 17 Feb 2017 1:48 pm » wrote: How can you declare that there was nothing going on if there is an ongoing investigation?
Flynn was undercutting Obama who was still the POTUS when he put the sanctions into effect.
One president at a time.
Why would Flynn tell Russia not to sweat the sanctions that were put into place because they meddled in our election?
That makes it sound like:
A. They were okay with Russia meddling in our election, or
B. They were colluding with Russia to meddle in our election.
No **** - I totally tip my hat to pooty pooty. pResidents come and pResidents go, and pooty pooty survives them all - and now, it appears, even gets to pick them.#ShePersisted » 17 Feb 2017 6:20 pm » wrote: Tell me something I don't know.
Spying is one thing.
Hacking and leaking to influence an election is quite something different.
Are you seriously trying to pretend that it's a CONFLATION to see a quid pro quo in the talk of dropping sanctions which were applied as a punishment for their having interfered in our elections?Huey » 17 Feb 2017 6:25 pm » wrote: notkce what she has done here. I am far from stupid. You are doing what your politicians and media are doimg. Conflating the Flynn issue with the hacking issue. Two separate issues. That you want he public to combine. Sorry, you are busted on this one. We were talking about Flynn and sanctions. Not who hacked the DNC. Which according to the FBI and other studies had NO affect on the elections.
Also, you realize Israel still talks to us, right? After Obama tried to influence their elections. As well as France. So please, come down of the misinformation high horse.
Not ME. I'm PROUD of pooty.#ShePersisted » 17 Feb 2017 6:31 pm » wrote: First of all whether or not it affected the outcome of the election is something that can never be proven one way or the other, but that's besides the point.
I have to wonder why you're so willing to overlook the fact that Russia interfered in our presidential election.
Everybody should be outraged by that whether they like the results of the election or not.
"Separate." I do not think that word means what you think it means.Huey » 17 Feb 2017 6:37 pm » wrote: It is not besides the point when you attempt to tie two separate issues together.
The little darling has a point, dear.Huey » 17 Feb 2017 7:10 pm » wrote: I also note that you are not OUTRAGED over the content of what was leaked. The emails of the DNC and the Clinton Campaign. The fact that the Clinton Campaign and the DNC actually attempted to Hijack the democratic process. Nope, not at all. You NEVER complained about that. So again, no lectures about what I should be outraged about.
Well, the problem is Flynn and trump weren't on the radar when the initial hacks took place in 2015. Then last spring any trump connection was Kabashed by the FBI. Next, the transcripts of the conversation were leaked. THE ACTUAL NARRATIVE. And investigated. At what point did the hacking aspect show up with Flynn?Cannonpointer » 18 Feb 2017 3:39 pm » wrote:Are you seriously trying to pretend that it's a CONFLATION to see a quid pro quo in the talk of dropping sanctions which were applied as a punishment for their having interfered in our elections?
It's not a conflation - it's the actual NARRATIVE. Are you not comprehending that dems believe flynn played point on the issue, and that through flynn, tRump conswagulated with ivan the turrible?
That would have been AFTER the disloyal opposition in the house rolled out the red carpet and had nuts in yoohoo interfering in OUR election on behalf of raw money, little lady.golfboy » 18 Feb 2017 11:30 am » wrote: Obama sent people and money to Israel to defeat Netanyahu.
Clemjob thinks wrongdoing is ethical.Termin8tor » 18 Feb 2017 11:34 am » wrote: She defends Democrat ethical and criminal wrongdoing.
Every time I read you girls, I am transported to a world wherein flynn did not resign - had no reason to; a world wherein tRump has enough juice to keep his team together, to cover folks, like how obama covered his people, even the stinky ones.Huey » 18 Feb 2017 3:44 pm » wrote: Well, the problem is Flynn and trump weren't on the radar when the initial hacks took place in 2015. Then last spring any trump connection was Kabashed by the FBI. Next, the transcripts of the conversation were leaked. THE ACTUAL NARRATIVE. And investigated. At what point did the hacking aspect show up with Flynn?
PLUS, all Flynn said was they would discuss it later. Jeez, this is just another tantrum thrown by the snowflakes.
Looks like you elected ANOTHER ******.Huey » 18 Feb 2017 3:44 pm » wrote: Jeez, this is just another tantrum thrown by the snowflakes.
Why can't trump fire a guy without it being a huge issue?Cannonpointer » 18 Feb 2017 3:52 pm » wrote:Every time I read you girls, I am transported to a world wherein flynn did not resign - had no reason to; a world wherein tRump has enough juice to keep his team together, to cover folks, like how obama covered his people, even the stinky ones.
Look at the heat obama took for hillary. He stood behind his people. tRump FOLDED. In the real world.
Not in the world of that **** in your post - but in the world I'm actually LIVING in.
Your road map and my territory seem unaligned, son.
Your narrative is perfectly reasonable, right up until I see flynn's head rolling down pennsylvania avenue - and then I think, Huey is full of ****.
I dunno - let's wait until he fires someone that way, and see what happens.bigsky » 18 Feb 2017 3:56 pm » wrote: Why can't trump fire a guy without it being a huge issue?
Why else would you fire a guy unless it was a big issue? The guy mislead the vice president...so he got **** canned....you ever fired anyone? I bet you have...for far less...Cannonpointer » 18 Feb 2017 4:00 pm » wrote:I dunno - let's wait until he fires someone that way, and see what happens.
In this case, he did it in response to a huge issue.
He got bullied by a snowflake tantrum into cutting a guy's head off. Who's he gonna fire when they start bitch-slapping him with the race card?
I smell blood in the water.![]()
Why are you a racist?
Oh...I'm a racist because I hate Portuguese peopleCannonpointer » 18 Feb 2017 4:00 pm » wrote:I dunno - let's wait until he fires someone that way, and see what happens.
In this case, he did it in response to a huge issue.
He got bullied by a snowflake tantrum into cutting a guy's head off. Who's he gonna fire when they start bitch-slapping him with the race card?
I smell blood in the water.![]()
Why are you a racist?
Cannonpointer » 18 Feb 2017 3:52 pm » wrote:Every time I read you girls, I am transported to a world wherein flynn did not resign - had no reason to; a world wherein tRump has enough juice to keep his team together, to cover folks, like how obama covered his people, even the stinky ones.
Look at the heat obama took for hillary. He stood behind his people. tRump FOLDED. In the real world.
Not in the world of that **** in your post - but in the world I'm actually LIVING in.
Your road map and my territory seem unaligned, son.
Your narrative is perfectly reasonable, right up until I see flynn's head rolling down pennsylvania avenue - and then I think, Huey is full of ****.
That seems a perfectly valid reason. I don't trust them. They refuse to speak proper spanish, rendering them unintelligible. If what you're saying isn't ****, why do you need a code?bigsky » 18 Feb 2017 4:02 pm » wrote: Oh...I'm a racist because I hate Portuguese people
But there was no REASON for him to do that, says you - so your narrative is the prattling of a disingenuous child who only THINKS that cookie behind his back is hidden from Mommy.bigsky » 18 Feb 2017 4:01 pm » wrote:The guy mislead the vice president...
Right!!!! Nobody but chael sonnen understands themCannonpointer » 18 Feb 2017 4:07 pm » wrote:That seems a perfectly valid reason. I don't trust them. They refuse to speak proper spanish, rendering them unintelligible. If what you're saying isn't ****, why do you need a code?
**** those **** skinned cock suckers.
That aside, you are a racist, sir!
The high pocrisy of the left is not in question - they were more offended by the REVELATION of ugly truths than by those truths, themselves. You tried to talk about the content, they would immediately begin screeching that the russians are interfering - which I'm like, SO? Of COURSE they interfere. WE interfere. Why WOULDN'T they interfere? Who cares? LET them interfere - we still get to decide. The REAL interference in our elections is from wall street, not the kremlin.Huey » 18 Feb 2017 4:06 pm » wrote: I understand your point. I really do. MY point is that the sanction question was a minor point of the discussion. The Russian asked a question, Flynn tal damced, and they moved on. Remember, the transcripts were leaked. And IMO if I represent a country that sanctions were just place on, and I am talking to a high a ranking member of the INCOMING Administration, don't you think it is only natural to ask what the incoming administrations feelings on those sanction would be?
I also think that the MSM and the minions like misty that eat that **** up have made the alleged quid pro quo the center piece to try and take down Trump. So you have Flynn not tell the VP that sanctions were not discussed, the VP stands before god and country and says they weren't discussed, then someone leaks the transcripts and guess what? The VP looks as if he intentionally lied to the country. Which enough for Trump to say "you're fired" because of how politically charged everything he does is.
That is more than enough to send the vultures of the MSM Into a buzzard like feeding frenzy and allows rats like laddie, and wharfie to pick at he carcass.