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#ShePersisted » 21 Feb 2017 12:50 am » wrote:

Poor Milo. If he'd just stuck with being a rude, disgusting, racist Nazi, CPAC would have welcomed him with open arms

You are a truly ugly, demented wackjob.

Cannonpointer » 20 Feb 2017 10:41 pm » wrote:I'm a free market advocate, dick sucker.

Sure, every bit as much as I"m a Marxist.

Liar.

Eastern Europe was threatened with the world's largest arsenal of missiles ever built when they "chose" capitalism - and were under the communist boot when they "chose" communism, you *** crack.

They've not been free ever and are not free now. Every move they make is made between russia on one side and western europe on the other, with the full knowledge that their countries are ground zero for the resolution of any disputes between those two power houses.

You've asked me three times to defend socialism, and I have declined three times, you dick sucking midget - you are starting to seem deliberately rude.

Why are you refusing to answer my question?

Why hasn't Eastern Europe gone back to your glorious Socialism?

Where's the "gun" pointed at their heads? Is Germany pointing it, Dim?

Was Obama?


Come on, babble something stupid.

Cannonpointer » 20 Feb 2017 5:22 pm » wrote:Again, queer, you are the one who defends socialism.

You were crowing about the state owned medical care in one of your favorite slave pits only recently - and defending that paradise's government ownership of the mass media.

The usual troll lies and bulls***. I never defended any media ownership, and individual citizens own their Medical Savings Accounts, not the government. There is also considerable private care available, and I never advocated or defended government owned facilities.
As usual you completely ignore the vast majority of Singapore's free economy, pretending in troll style that it doesn't exist.

And to call one of the most prosperous countries in the world a "slave pit" is beyond your usual level of psychosis.

Termin8tor » 21 Feb 2017 7:40 am » wrote:
Sure, every bit as much as I"m a Marxist.

Liar.


Why are you refusing to answer my question?

Why hasn't Eastern Europe gone back to your glorious Socialism?

Where's the "gun" pointed at their heads? Is Germany pointing it, Dim?

Was Obama?

Come on, babble something stupid.

If you're going to pretend I didn't already answer you falsely premised question, don't click on the very post where I answered it. It's rude to be that stupid.

Cannonpointer » 21 Feb 2017 9:02 am » wrote:If you're going to pretend I didn't already answer you falsely premised question, don't click on the very post where I answered it. It's rude to be that stupid.

You wrote psychotic bulls*** and called it an answer.

If Eastern Europe was to return to Socialism over the last eight years, who would have invaded them, Dim?



Who held this supposed "gun?"

Termin8tor » 21 Feb 2017 1:41 pm » wrote:
You wrote psychotic bulls*** and called it an answer.

If Eastern Europe was to return to Socialism over the last eight years, who would have invaded them, Dim?

Who held this supposed "gun?"

We forcibly removed the Cherokee from the Carolinas, Georgia and Tennessee to Oklahoma. A generation later, they were free to travel. Why are they still there, clem? Why haven't they gone back?

People tend to stay with what they have and what they know, when no one is pointing guns at them. The Eastern European nation states were aligned with and dependent on the USSR, even while being plundered by the USSR. They are now aligned with and dependent on the EU and NATO.

Separating oneself politically is IN AND OF ITSELF a revolutionary act. In the case of their departure from the USSR, it was done FOR them by an economic implosion. The only ones who actually half-assed "fought" for their "freedom" were the poles - and ron reagan stood staunchly beside lech walesa, I have to give him that.

The fact that capitalism, in the case of eastern europe, came calling with a gun in its hand is by no means invalidated by the fact that they continue to remain with the EU and NATO. ANY SYSTEM, including communism, tribalism, nudism and snake charmingism, is stronger with trading partners and loose borders and economic assistance - even plunder systems. Not to mention, capitalism is generally better than communism, ESPECIALLY to the degree that it's embraced by strong democratic systems as opposed to autocracies, as democratic systems will preserve SOME actual free market for small businesses - but all the big ticket items will be handled by the capitalist oligarchy.

You tell two implicit lies in your question. The first is that there are a myriad of wonderful choices that the former East Bloc nations are shaking their heads to, in a firm "no." The second is that if such were the case, they would have anything more than a pretense of free agency to embrace one of those wonderful opportunities.

You remind me of a petulant child when your silly cartoon roadmap is challenged - you cannot even admit that batteries of nukes targeting every major city is a threat. It's ike arguing with an angry six year old boy.

larryc12 » 21 Feb 2017 6:01 am » wrote:Your sour grapes are all you have.

Yeah.
Keep blaming this on sour grapes and ignoring the fact that 45 surrounded himself with people who have ties to Russia.
And the fact that we have no idea what financial ties he may have to Russia, because he refuses to show his tax returns.

Termin8tor » 21 Feb 2017 7:37 am » wrote:You are a truly ugly, demented wackjob.

Are you defending Milo who said that young boys "discover who they are" through sexual relationships with adult men?

AUSTRIAN COURT APPROVES EXTRADITION OF UKRAINIAN OLIGARCH DMITRY FIRTASH TO CHICAGO

A court in Austria approved Tuesday a U.S. request to extradite Ukrainian oligarch Dmitry Firtash to Chicago.

The Ukrainian industrial magnate also known as "Dmytro Firtash" was arrested in Austria in 2014 following his federal indictment in Chicago.

Firtash is one of the wealthiest men in the old Eastern block and chairman of Group DF.

In June 2013, Mr. Firtash and five others were charged in sealed indictments in Chicago with paying $18.5 million in bribes to Indian officials so they could mine titanium and then sell it to Boeing Corporation for use in building the 787 Dreamliner passenger jet, as reported by the I-Team.

Minutes after the hearing ended Tuesday in Vienna, the intrigue of this case continued when Firtash was arrested while waiting for an elevator in the courthouse.

He was detained by officers on an arrest warrant from Spain, according to a spokeswoman for Vienna prosecutors.

Firtash was named in Spanish arrest warrants last November along with two alleged accomplices - also citizens of Ukraine - whose names were not disclosed in the money laundering investigation.

[....]

Firtash has been a business associate of President Trump ally Paul Manafort.

Of course he was.

#ShePersisted » 21 Feb 2017 2:25 pm » wrote:
Of course he was.

What about all the black people dying in Chicago, though?

Doesn't that invalidate anything and everything you say?

I'm often confused about the informal rules - probably the board's revenge for its (and my) chronic confusion about the formal ones.

I am a bad, bad admin - and a troll!

Poop Deck has seen my kind before.

DON'T BE FOOLED!

#ShePersisted » 21 Feb 2017 2:25 pm » wrote:
Of course he was.

"The Democrats Are Lining Their Pockets In Ukraine"



http://www.westernjo...ets-in-ukraine/

#ShePersisted » 21 Feb 2017 2:13 pm » wrote:
Are you defending Milo who said that young boys "discover who they are" through sexual relationships with adult men?

I was responding to this example of ugly leftist bulls***.

Poor Milo. If he'd just stuck with being a rude, disgusting, racist Nazi, CPAC would have welcomed him with open arms

You badly need psychological help.

#ShePersisted » 21 Feb 2017 2:10 pm » wrote: Yeah.
Keep blaming this on sour grapes and ignoring the fact that 45 surrounded himself with people who have ties to Russia.
And the fact that we have no idea what financial ties he may have to Russia, because he refuses to show his tax returns.

Good luck winning back Pennsylvania, Mich or Wisconsin with these endless smears.

Cannonpointer » 21 Feb 2017 1:59 pm » wrote: We forcibly removed the Cherokee from the Carolinas, Georgia and Tennessee to Oklahoma. A generation later, they were free to travel. Why are they still there, clem? Why haven't they gone back?

People tend to stay with what they have and what they know, when no one is pointing guns at them. The Eastern European nation states were aligned with and dependent on the USSR, even while being plundered by the USSR. They are now aligned with and dependent on the EU and NATO.

Separating oneself politically is IN AND OF ITSELF a revolutionary act. In the case of their departure from the USSR, it was done FOR them by an economic implosion. The only ones who actually half-assed "fought" for their "freedom" were the poles - and ron reagan stood staunchly beside lech walesa, I have to give him that.

The fact that capitalism, in the case of eastern europe, came calling with a gun in its hand is by no means invalidated by the fact that they continue to remain with the EU and NATO. ANY SYSTEM, including communism, tribalism, nudism and snake charmingism, is stronger with trading partners and loose borders and economic assistance - even plunder systems. Not to mention, capitalism is generally better than communism, ESPECIALLY to the degree that it's embraced by strong democratic systems as opposed to autocracies, as democratic systems will preserve SOME actual free market for small businesses - but all the big ticket items will be handled by the capitalist oligarchy.

You tell two implicit lies in your question. The first is that there are a myriad of wonderful choices that the former East Bloc nations are shaking their heads to, in a firm "no." The second is that if such were the case, they would have anything more than a pretense of free agency to embrace one of those wonderful opportunities.

You remind me of a petulant child when your silly cartoon roadmap is challenged - you cannot even admit that batteries of nukes targeting every major city is a threat. It's ike arguing with an angry six year old boy.

.

Oh yeah, just like the Cherokees!

Here's a hint, Dim. Most of the Eastern European countries are dedicated by philosophy to Free Market Capitalism and their elected representatives have said so repeatedly, having experienced Socialism first hand and learned what actually works.

No, there is no "gun," imbecile.

Arguing you is like arguing with a dishonest psychotic. You actually think your wild rants make sense.

Termin8tor » 21 Feb 2017 10:42 pm » wrote: Free Market Capitalism

You live in fantasy land.

There are free markets, and there is capitalism. They are opposites, you ignorant child.

Free markets are unmolested by governments. Capitalism is created by governments. You are silly.

Termin8tor » 21 Feb 2017 10:37 pm » wrote:
I was responding to this example of ugly leftist bulls***.


You badly need psychological help.

SP holds the losing message so she needs over the top rhetoric.

Cannonpointer » 22 Feb 2017 8:49 am » wrote:
You live in fantasy land.

There are free markets, and there is capitalism. They are opposites, you ignorant child.

Free markets are unmolested by governments. Capitalism is created by governments. You are silly.

Well gosh, who should we believe, a ranting, lying psychotic?

Or the dictionary, which defines "Capitalism" as Free Markets?

Tough choice, as usual.

cap·i·tal·ism
ˈkapədlˌizəm/
nounan economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

synonyms:
free enterprise, private enterprise, the free market;
enterprise culture"the capitalism of emerging nations"


https://www.google.com/#q=%22capitalism%22+def

Cannonpointer » 22 Feb 2017 8:49 am » wrote:You live in fantasy land.

There are free markets, and there is capitalism. They are opposites, you ignorant child.

Free markets are unmolested by governments. Capitalism is created by governments. You are silly.

Here's a hint, Dim. Most of the Eastern European countries are dedicated by philosophy to Free Market Capitalism and their elected representatives have said so repeatedly, having experienced Socialism first hand and learned what actually works.

No, there is no "gun," imbecile.

#ShePersisted » 21 Feb 2017 2:10 pm » wrote: Yeah.
Keep blaming this on sour grapes

You're the one doing all the blaming.

and ignoring the fact that 45 surrounded himself with people who have ties to Russia.
And the fact that we have no idea what financial ties he may have to Russia, because he refuses to show his tax returns.

Yeah, I know and not only that, he's a white supremacist/racist, a misogynist, a xenophobe, and a traitor.

Miss T, you're not well.

Cannonpointer » 20 Feb 2017 9:43 am » wrote: Reagan's Raiding Rabble murdered so many Salvadorans and Guatemalans and Nicaraguans to "save" them, yet here they are, "saved," sneaking into our country illegally to raise our kids and clean our toilets.

That was some high grade saving, *** - some HIGH grade saving.

Capitalism always brings a gun to the party.

Where do you come up with this utter lunacy?

According to the liberal New Republic, death squad killings in El Salvador, for example, plummeted because Reagan professionalized their military.

And it was the Nicaraguan Communist Sandinistas that were committing mass murder. We armed the populist resistance.