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Termin8tor » 22 Feb 2017 9:35 am » wrote:
Well gosh, who should we believe, a ranting, lying psychotic?

Or the dictionary, which defines "Capitalism" as Free Markets?

Tough choice, as usual.

Termin8tor » 22 Feb 2017 9:49 am » wrote:
Where do you come up with this utter lunacy?

According to the liberal New Republic, death squad killings in El Salvador, for example, plummeted because Reagan professionalized their military.

And it was the Nicaraguan Communist Sandinistas that were committing mass murder. We armed the populist resistance.

Cannonpointer » 22 Feb 2017 10:01 am » wrote:
Enjoy your fantasy land, child.

The Sandanistas had electoral control of government - no reason for death squads. It was the contras - funded unlawfully with Medellin drug money - who ran the death squads.

The only male bone you have in your body is going in and out of it.

psycho.

Termin8tor » 22 Feb 2017 10:15 am » wrote:
Hey Dim, Stalin controlled his government, yet still committed genocide, just like Mao, Pol Pot and Mengistu; Fidel committed mass murder after seizing power.

After gaining power, Communists commit mass murder if not outright genocide, you ignoramus. That's the nature of Communism.
And even the liberal New Republic finally conceded that the Sandinistas butchered anyone who stood in their way of Communizing the country including butchering over 10,000 Mesquite indians.

The Contras were hardly clean in an ugly civil war, but they killed far, far fewer than the Sandinistas.


"If you didn't have empty rhetoric, you wouldn't have much of anything.

Stop listening to those voices in your head, psycho.

Cannonpointer » 22 Feb 2017 10:25 am » wrote:Careful.

You just admitted that capitalism brought a gun to the party.

Cannonpointer » 22 Feb 2017 10:25 am » wrote:Careful.

You just admitted that capitalism brought a gun to the party.

Termin8tor » 22 Feb 2017 10:15 am » wrote:Hey Dim, Stalin controlled his government, yet still committed genocide, just like Mao, Pol Pot and Mengistu; Fidel committed mass murder after seizing power.

After gaining power, Communists commit mass murder if not outright genocide, you ignoramus. That's the nature of Communism.
And even the liberal New Republic finally conceded that the Sandinistas butchered anyone who stood in their way of Communizing the country including butchering over 10,000 Mesquite indians.

The Contras were hardly clean in an ugly civil war, but they killed far, far fewer than the Sandinistas.


"If you didn't have empty rhetoric, you wouldn't have much of anything.

Stop listening to those voices in your head, psycho.

Termin8tor » 22 Feb 2017 10:37 am » wrote:
Resistance to mass murder isn't Capitalism, Dim.

Nor is supporting freedom.

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#ShePersisted » 22 Feb 2017 1:45 pm » wrote:
She learned everything about business from her Daddy.
Steal people's designs, cheat suppliers and don't pay taxes.

Cannonpointer » 22 Feb 2017 11:08 am » wrote: We sure have supported a lot of freedom in central america, clown.

Amazing those brown people aren't industrious enough to capitalize on all that freedom wall street keeps enforcing on them.

#ShePersisted » 22 Feb 2017 1:45 pm » wrote:She learned everything about business from her Daddy.
Steal people's designs, cheat suppliers and don't pay taxes.

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Cannonpointer » 21 Feb 2017 1:59 pm » wrote: We forcibly removed the Cherokee from the Carolinas, Georgia and Tennessee to Oklahoma. A generation later, they were free to travel. Why are they still there, clem? Why haven't they gone back?

People tend to stay with what they have and what they know, when no one is pointing guns at them. The Eastern European nation states were aligned with and dependent on the USSR, even while being plundered by the USSR. They are now aligned with and dependent on the EU and NATO.

Separating oneself politically is IN AND OF ITSELF a revolutionary act. In the case of their departure from the USSR, it was done FOR them by an economic implosion. The only ones who actually half-assed "fought" for their "freedom" were the poles - and ron reagan stood staunchly beside lech walesa, I have to give him that.

The fact that capitalism, in the case of eastern europe, came calling with a gun in its hand is by no means invalidated by the fact that they continue to remain with the EU and NATO. ANY SYSTEM, including communism, tribalism, nudism and snake charmingism, is stronger with trading partners and loose borders and economic assistance - even plunder systems. Not to mention, capitalism is generally better than communism, ESPECIALLY to the degree that it's embraced by strong democratic systems as opposed to autocracies, as democratic systems will preserve SOME actual free market for small businesses - but all the big ticket items will be handled by the capitalist oligarchy.

You tell two implicit lies in your question. The first is that there are a myriad of wonderful choices that the former East Bloc nations are shaking their heads to, in a firm "no." The second is that if such were the case, they would have anything more than a pretense of free agency to embrace one of those wonderful opportunities.

You remind me of a petulant child when your silly cartoon roadmap is challenged - you cannot even admit that batteries of nukes targeting every major city is a threat. It's ike arguing with an angry six year old boy.

Cannonpointer » 21 Feb 2017 1:59 pm » wrote: You tell two implicit lies in your question. The first is that there are a myriad of wonderful choices that the former East Bloc nations are shaking their heads to, in a firm "no." The second is that if such were the case, they would have anything more than a pretense of free agency to embrace one of those wonderful opportunities.

You remind me of a petulant child when your silly cartoon roadmap is challenged - you cannot even admit that batteries of nukes targeting every major city is a threat. It's ike arguing with an angry six year old boy.

Termin8tor » 22 Feb 2017 11:11 pm » wrote:
Oh, so Obama was going to nuke Eastern Europe if they turned back to Socialism.

Glad we settled that.

You are utterly wacked.

Termin8tor » 22 Feb 2017 2:56 pm » wrote:
You never run out of empty leftist rhetoric, do you, Dim.

Or wild leftist hallucinations.

Anyone with a little knowledge would understand that domestic government, domestic forces and domestic culture are the reasons most countries are poor.

For corporations have little to do with it.

Cannonpointer » 23 Feb 2017 1:20 am » wrote: Where did I say that, you chattering ape?

I said when they "chose" capitalism, there were missiles aimed at every city. You cannot deny it, so you pretend you do not understand it. You are one dishonest little ***.

Cannonpointer » 23 Feb 2017 1:30 am » wrote: Keep whistling that **** in the dark, gay caballero.

Termin8tor » 23 Feb 2017 7:51 am » wrote:
Then citing the missiles is stupid and irrelevant, there was no "gun," and you're a psychotic babbler.

Glad we settled that, Dim.

Cannonpointer » 23 Feb 2017 8:09 am » wrote: Pretty sure they "chose" capitalism before obama came in board, dimwit.

You always prefer to seem stupid than misinformed, don't you, gay?