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Huey » 04 Mar 2017 9:41 am » wrote: As usual you ignore the warrant that was issued in October.
Hello, misty, a FISA warrant allows the tapping or listening in.
Duh.

The way the Heat Street report is written intimates that Trump is not named in this October application for FISA surveillance.

Huey » 04 Mar 2017 9:41 am » wrote:This has been news for quite some time. If you would broaden your information sources beyond twitter and left wing propaganda **** you might be just a little more informed.

Huey » 04 Mar 2017 9:41 am » wrote:Just admit you are wrong for once misty.

#ShePersisted » 04 Mar 2017 10:06 am » wrote: Your link said that Trump was not named in the October warrant. FYI Huey.
I don't get all of my information from Twitter or left wing propaganda sites.
I do follow a lot of journalists on Twitter and they link to a wide variety of different sources.
I follow both left and right leaning people, and a variety of media outlets.

I guess you don't know how Twitter works.
Twitter is only the vehicle that takes you to different sources.
It's not a source in itself.

Do you think I should stop following POTUS on Twitter?

The FBI is looking into Russian ties between Trump's former campaign director Paul Manafort and the Russian government, so why would it be so far-fetched for Trump's name to be mentioned in a FISA warrant?
I will when you prove that Obama tapped Trump's phone.

Huey » 04 Mar 2017 10:10 am » wrote: The FISA warrant covered Trump Towers. If you want to play semantics be my guest. The evidence is quite clear that phones were tapped and trump was being truthful.
But parse away. Trump is not lying. Been fun debunking you.

#ShePersisted » 04 Mar 2017 10:30 am » wrote: Have you posted a link to the FISA warrant?

1. Your own source said that the second more narrowly defined warrant does not name Trump, and
2. The FBI is investigating Paul Manafort who was Trump's campaign manager.
The campaign was run out of Trump Tower.

You have provided no proof that Obama tapped Trump's phone or that he ordered the FBI to do it.
Trump's Tweets imply that Obama did it and he did it for political reasons.

For the record I hope that the FBI is looking into Trump's ties to Russia.
I find all of these ties to Russia by his people quite disturbing.
I guess you don't.

Trump Accuses Obama of Tapping His Trump Tower Phones Before the Election

In a series of tweets posted in the early morning hours of 4 March 2017, President Donald Trump accused former president Barack Obama of having “wire tapped” phones at his Trump Tower headquarters in October 2016, just weeks before that year’s presidential election.

President Trump likened this alleged activity to “McCarthyism” and “Nixon/Watergate."

Other than a vague reference to something that had been “turned down by court earlier,” the President’s tweets offered no documentation or evidence for the charges he was leveling at his predecessor in the White House.

Speculation is that Trump was referring to claims made by syndicated radio host Mark Levin (echoed by Breitbart, and apparently based on a 7 November 2016 Heat Street article), that while Barack Obama was still in office, the FBI had sought a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) warrant to investigate claims that a server registered to the Trump Organization was communicating with two servers registered to a Russian private commercial bank.

The LA Times noted that: It would be highly unusual for a sitting president to be aware of such [surveillance] requests.

By blaming Obama directly, Trump accused the former president of reaching into a federal investigation and signing off on an illegal wiretap, which is a felony.

If federal investigators did monitor Trump’s phones or computers lawfully, a court would have demanded information about potential criminal misconduct or unlawful foreign contacts.

Such investigations are closely held and rarely, if ever, shared with the White House.

It is possible Trump has no evidence his phones were tapped and is repeating unfounded reports circulating in conservative media circles.

#ShePersisted » 04 Mar 2017 10:30 am » wrote: Have you posted a link to the FISA warrant?

1. Your own source said that the second more narrowly defined warrant does not name Trump, and
2. The FBI is investigating Paul Manafort who was Trump's campaign manager.
The campaign was run out of Trump Tower.

You have provided no proof that Obama tapped Trump's phone or that he ordered the FBI to do it.
Trump's Tweets imply that Obama did it and he did it for political reasons.

For the record I hope that the FBI is looking into Trump's ties to Russia.
I find all of these ties to Russia by his people quite disturbing.
I guess you don't.

Republican Strategist Hit Trump With The Truth That FBI Has Warrant To Investigate Russia Ties

After Donald Trump’s meltdown accusing President Obama of spying on him Saturday morning, the entire political world is up in arms, including some Republicans.

Not only does a president not order wiretapping but national Republican political strategist and media consultant Rick Wilson reminded President Trump this morning that the wiretapping was hardly a secret, the FBI was granted a FISA warrant in October covering Trump’s ties to Russia:



Heat Street reported at the time, “Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA court warrant in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of ‘U.S. persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia.”

Also that story that was supposedly killed about a private Trump server being connected to a Russian bank wasn’t actually killed at all, “Contrary to earlier reporting in the New York Times, which cited FBI sources as saying that the agency did not believe that the private server in Donald Trump’s Trump Tower which was connected to a Russian bank had any nefarious purpose, the FBI’s counter-intelligence arm, sources say, re-drew an earlier FISA court request around possible financial and banking offenses related to the server.”

Wilson mocked Trump for sounding like Nixon but with “Trumpbart brittle”, “I love this tweet. This is ‘I am not a crook’ wrapped in the Caine Mutiny, covered in Trumpbart brittle, and with a creamy nougat filling.”

Wilson is saying that Trump is projecting his guilt.

Intelligence expert Malcolm Nance said on MSNBC’s Joy Reid this is the kind of behavior you see when a target starts getting “buggy.”

Meanwhile, many in the intelligence community are saying new info will be dropped that will be “the least convenient facts in American political history.”

#ShePersisted » 04 Mar 2017 11:00 am » wrote:Republican Strategist Hit Trump With The Truth That FBI Has Warrant To Investigate Russia Ties

After Donald Trump’s meltdown accusing President Obama of spying on him Saturday morning, the entire political world is up in arms, including some Republicans.

Not only does a president not order wiretapping but national Republican political strategist and media consultant Rick Wilson reminded President Trump this morning that the wiretapping was hardly a secret, the FBI was granted a FISA warrant in October covering Trump’s ties to Russia:



Heat Street reported at the time, “Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA court warrant in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of ‘U.S. persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia.”

Also that story that was supposedly killed about a private Trump server being connected to a Russian bank wasn’t actually killed at all, “Contrary to earlier reporting in the New York Times, which cited FBI sources as saying that the agency did not believe that the private server in Donald Trump’s Trump Tower which was connected to a Russian bank had any nefarious purpose, the FBI’s counter-intelligence arm, sources say, re-drew an earlier FISA court request around possible financial and banking offenses related to the server.”

Wilson mocked Trump for sounding like Nixon but with “Trumpbart brittle”, “I love this tweet. This is ‘I am not a crook’ wrapped in the Caine Mutiny, covered in Trumpbart brittle, and with a creamy nougat filling.”

Wilson is saying that Trump is projecting his guilt.

Intelligence expert Malcolm Nance said on MSNBC’s Joy Reid this is the kind of behavior you see when a target starts getting “buggy.”

Meanwhile, many in the intelligence community are saying new info will be dropped that will be “the least convenient facts in American political history.”

Huey » 04 Mar 2017 11:04 am » wrote: Why are you acting like this is news? Been talked about for months. You need better sources.

#ShePersisted » 04 Mar 2017 11:16 am » wrote: I'm not acting like this is news.
Trump is the one acting like this is news, which is exactly what my source is saying.

Trump is accusing Obama directly of tapping his phone, and by comparing him to Nixon and Watergate he is implying that it was solely for political reasons.



I think we all knew that the FBI was looking into the ties between people like Manafort and Flynn's ties to Russia.

Like Malcolm Nance said, he's getting buggy.

BTW....my source is NOT one of the 'left wing propaganda' sources that you said I stick to.
He's a Republican.
But you don't like what he said, so you dismissed him as well.
Typical.

A week before his inauguration, Donald Trump said that when it came to drug prices, pharmaceutical companies were “getting away with murder” — and he pledged to take decisive action to reduce the rising cost of medicine.

Six weeks into his presidency, though, his government has moved to help drug companies block shareholder initiatives designed to help bring more scrutiny to drug price increases.

With drug prices skyrocketing in the United States, investor groups last year filed shareholder resolutions with 13 drug companies that — if passed — would force their boards to more meticulously detail their price increases for major medicines, and to provide “the rationale and criteria used for these price increases.”

Days after Trump met with pharmaceutical industry CEOs at the White House, the Securities and Exchange Commission endorsed drug companies’ moves to block the resolutions from being voted on by shareholders at their annual meetings.

The SEC move followed Trump promoting Republican SEC commissioner Michael Piwowar to serve as acting chairman of the agency.

The SEC win for the pharmaceutical industry represents the latest victory for an industry that has been ramping up efforts to stop governments from taking action to lower — or force more disclosure about — drug pricing.

Last month, federal lawmakers from both parties helped the industry block Senate legislation to let Americans purchase lower-priced FDA-approved medicines from Canada.

Meanwhile, in the last two years, drug companies have been largely successful in their fight against a barrage of price transparency bills.

Such legislation has been stymied in all but one state, Vermont.

http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capita ... ators-help

#ShePersisted » 04 Mar 2017 9:03 pm » wrote:Rachel Dolezal – the white woman, who spent years posing as a black civil rights leader – has reportedly changed her name to Nkechi Amare Diallo, a West African moniker that means “gift of God.”



Dolezal.....or Nkechi says she is now jobless, on food stamps, and on the brink of homelessness.

But she has money to legally change her name apparently.

To this day, Dolezal Nkechi still maintains the delusion that she’s black.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/13864/bla ... el-qazvini

#ShePersisted » 04 Mar 2017 8:49 am » wrote:He's really losing it now.

#ShePersisted » 04 Mar 2017 2:59 pm » wrote:
Don't listen to what he says, watch what he does.

#ShePersisted » 04 Mar 2017 11:00 am » wrote:
Still waiting on proof that 'Obama' tapped Trump's phone.

psycho.

#ShePersisted » 04 Mar 2017 2:59 pm » wrote:Don't listen to what he says, watch what he does.

Termin8tor » 05 Mar 2017 11:31 am » wrote: Still waiting for proof of any of the smears you've made against Trump and his officials regarding Russia, psycho.

Sgt Bilko » 05 Mar 2017 1:30 pm » wrote: Misty always demands proof from others but never provides proof of her own assertions. The one time she tried went down in flames.

#ShePersisted » 04 Mar 2017 9:34 am » wrote: That's right.
We don't know.

It is 'said' to have named Trump?
Who said that?

From your link: I'd say he fits the standard for probable cause.
If there is a FISA court warrant naming him, he could prove that, no?
If there isn't there should have been considering his and his people's cozy relationship with the Russians.
He said that Obama tapped his phone and never said anything about any warrant, or the FISA court.
If that were true, it would be a big **** deal.
Then an hour later he's Tweeting about The Apprentice.