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NY judge makes CRAZY ruling relating to Trumps Florida properties..That he INFLATED the VALUE, BUT, it makes NO SENSE !!
NY judge makes CRAZY ruling relating to Trumps Florida properties..That he INFLATED the VALUE, BUT, it makes NO SENSE !!
By ConservativeWave
1 Oct 2023 6:20 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
1 Oct 2023 9:42 pm
Bro, Austin downtown. Scary.
We dodge tents and homeless druggies
while ogling college girl D-Cups
1 Oct 2023 9:42 pm
There were about 90 Million Americans back in the World War II daysSumela » 01 Oct 2023, 8:58 pm » wrote: ↑ America has become a banana republic
where left and right are obsessed with
Donald Trump.
We are not a serious country
In 2023 we have about as many ****** and Mexicans running around....!!!
1 Oct 2023 9:52 pm
That is so sad. You would think the voters would pull their heads out.Sumela » 01 Oct 2023, 9:42 pm » wrote: ↑ Bro, Austin downtown. Scary.
We dodge tents and homeless druggies
while ogling college girl D-Cups
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
1 Oct 2023 10:05 pm
They did. Voted 60/40 to stop tent cities under bridgesCannonpointer » 01 Oct 2023, 9:52 pm » wrote: ↑ That is so sad. You would think the voters would pull their heads out.
but the city will inforce
1 Oct 2023 10:12 pm
The mere fact that such a matter had to come to a vote tells me the situation is dire.Sumela » 01 Oct 2023, 10:05 pm » wrote: ↑ They did. Voted 60/40 to stop tent cities under bridges
but the city will inforce
Austin needs an enema.
And some lynchings.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
2 Oct 2023 5:06 am
Everything done since Trump entered office has been a political hit job...ConservativeWave » 01 Oct 2023, 6:43 pm » wrote: ↑ Based on the property in question and IF the smaller properties in the area are correct... IF the smaller properties, AT THE TIME of the assessment, were worth $18-40 million... a complex like Mira Lago, on 20 acres, that was and is METICULOUSLY maintained... is a ONE of a KIND property, ABSOLUTELY worth WHATEVER someone was willing to pay.... BUT, a Price in the $100-$150 million range or MORE would be reasonable... AND.. the BIGGER QUESTION would be is:
WHAT the HELL is a Judge from New York City, and who knows NOTHING about the Florida Real estate market, ACCUSING Donald Trump of FRAUD relating to the price of a property like THIS, and LOW BALLING what HE thinks it SHOULD be worth? ...AND to have the GALL to Accuse Trump of FRAUD? THIS is a POLITICAL HIT JOB... plain and simple... and THAT Judge should be REMOVED from the case... IMMEDIATELY !!
JuCo 5 percenter...72
“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom 
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Libruls are often fascists on vacation..." 
2 Oct 2023 5:19 am
So what, if we could buy you for what you're worth and sell you for what you think you're worth, we'd all be rich.maineman » 01 Oct 2023, 6:34 pm » wrote: ↑ Last year, the clown claimed it was worth $1.5B
hahahahahahahahaha
2 Oct 2023 7:38 am
RebelGator » 02 Oct 2023, 5:19 am » wrote: ↑ So what, if we could buy you for what you're worth and sell you for what you think you're worth, we'd all be rich.
I'm not for sale, homoboy.
2 Oct 2023 7:42 am
THE CHINKS ALREADY OWN YOU
2 Oct 2023 8:02 am
Hey simpleton, that judge has no business in determining anything.maineman » 01 Oct 2023, 8:16 pm » wrote: ↑ So you honestly think that $1.5BILLION is a reasonable price for Mar-a-Lago?
If you want to criticize the judge for undervaluing it, you should be just as quick to criticize Trump for overvaluing it. THAT is, in fact, a crime.
Donald Trump is a private business man, you bureaucrats can go **** yourselves.
2 Oct 2023 1:35 pm
2 Oct 2023 4:52 pm
There is no legitimate criminal complaint coming from a victim that was harmed ....
2 Oct 2023 11:42 pm
After day ONE of the Trump "Fraud" case trial... it appears that 80% of the case brought by the CORRUPT New York DA... is OVER !! Trump announced today, that based on the Judges comments after day one of the trial... that:Majik » 02 Oct 2023, 4:52 pm » wrote: ↑ There is no legitimate criminal complaint coming from a victim that was harmed ....
1) The Statute of limitations WAS/IS (based on prior court rulings) STILL IN EFFECT... and 80% of the case is OVER !
2) ALL the charges that the NY DA tried to bring that were PRIOR to 2014... are COVERED by the statute of limitations, and are NULL & VOID !
3) THIS is a case where there ARE/WERE NO VICTIMS... NO ONE was DEFRAUDED, NO ONE was a VICTIM, and NO ONE was willing to accuse Trump of such... EXCEPT for a CORRUPT and POLITICIZED New YORK District Attorney... who HERSELF should be brought up on Charges... and REMOVED/DISMISSED from her position ! ...AND still may be !!
WOW... I can't WAIT for Day #2 !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1wAPNMxSJ0
AMERICA, and AMERICANS, NEED to WAKE up… There is NOTHING “Democratic” about the CURRENT American “Democrat Party”! THEY are more an amalgamation of Totalitarian Marxists, Socialists, Communists, and Globalists… who are BENT on TAKING, and then KEEPING power... & where ultimately the American PEOPLE will have NO SAY AT ALL in how we are GOVERNED... and our "Democracy" will be DEAD!!
3 Oct 2023 7:14 am
From what I heard and understood on the news, per the executive law being cited in this case, that is not necessary in order to obtain a conviction. They don't have to prove anyone was harmed, that there was the intent to defraud and the fact that a "sophisticated recipient" were given the statements is not a defense. All it takes, under the law, is that persistent exaggerations were made. The fact lenders did their own due diligence, made informed lending decisions and we completely repaid is irrelevant to the case.Majik » 02 Oct 2023, 4:52 pm » wrote: ↑ There is no legitimate criminal complaint coming from a victim that was harmed ....
3 Oct 2023 7:54 am
Persistent exaggerations ? In the Real Estate business?ConsRule » 03 Oct 2023, 7:14 am » wrote: ↑ From what I heard and understood on the news, per the executive law being cited in this case, that is not necessary in order to obtain a conviction. They don't have to prove anyone was harmed, that there was the intent to defraud and the fact that a "sophisticated recipient" were given the statements is not a defense. All it takes, under the law, is that persistent exaggerations were made. The fact lenders did their own due diligence, made informed lending decisions and we completely repaid is irrelevant to the case.
The seller has every right to determine what he/she/it will sell their property for .....
what this trial is trying to do besides trying to get Trump is to set a dangerous precedent where by the state will determine what a property sells for and not the owner ....
For years the left and their equity for all crap in NY has salivated over the prospect of devaluation of property in NY so that anybody can afford to live in places like Manhattan.
3 Oct 2023 8:11 am
I didn't write the law...just relaying what I heard reported (so take it for what it's worth). However, in this case nobody was attempting to sell property.Majik » 03 Oct 2023, 7:54 am » wrote: ↑ Persistent exaggerations ? In the Real Estate business?
The seller has every right to determine what he/she/it will sell their property for .....
what this trial is trying to do besides trying to get Trump is to set a dangerous precedent where by the state will determine what a property sells for and not the owner ....
For years the left and their equity for all crap in NY has salivated over the prospect of devaluation of property in NY so that anybody can afford to live in places like Manhattan.
I did find this story about the law.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-colu ... mp-to-book
3 Oct 2023 10:30 am
I think ONE of the things that will ultimately weigh into the decision in this case... it that... THERE WERE NO VICTIMS !!ConsRule » 03 Oct 2023, 8:11 am » wrote: ↑ I didn't write the law...just relaying what I heard reported (so take it for what it's worth). However, in this case nobody was attempting to sell property.
I did find this story about the law.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-colu ... mp-to-book
This was NOT a case brought by a BANK, or a CREDITOR... AND, NO ONE lost any money... SURE... maybe TRUMP estimated what he thought the property was worth... BUT, THAT was HIS OPINION! The BANKS are not obligated to use Trumps words as the "ULTIMATE TRUTH"... they have their OWN Real Estate experts, and Lawyers, and THEY ultimately DID THEIR DUE DILIGENCE... and MADE THEIR OWN DECISION... BUT, NONE OF THEM brought these charges...
THESE CHARGES were brought by a RADICAL LIBERAL Democrat DA, who HAS a Liberal Agenda to DEFEAT and DESTROY Donald Trump... and THAT is the DEFINITION of the "Weaponization of the Federal Government AGAINST a private citizen" !
What I'm looking forward to is when Trump wins, is the lawsuits HE FILES against these SOB Democrats and their CONTEMPTIBLE Party !!
AMERICA, and AMERICANS, NEED to WAKE up… There is NOTHING “Democratic” about the CURRENT American “Democrat Party”! THEY are more an amalgamation of Totalitarian Marxists, Socialists, Communists, and Globalists… who are BENT on TAKING, and then KEEPING power... & where ultimately the American PEOPLE will have NO SAY AT ALL in how we are GOVERNED... and our "Democracy" will be DEAD!!
3 Oct 2023 10:43 am
I understand what you are saying and I agree with you. However (as it was explained on the news) the parts I highlighted in red ARE NOT NECESSARY for there to be a crime under the NY law used in this case. There doesn't even need to be an intent to defraud.ConservativeWave » 03 Oct 2023, 10:30 am » wrote: ↑ I think ONE of the things that will ultimately weigh into the decision in this case... it that... THERE WERE NO VICTIMS !!
This was NOT a case brought by a BANK, or a CREDITOR... AND, NO ONE lost any money... SURE... maybe TRUMP estimated what he thought the property was worth... BUT, THAT was HIS OPINION! The BANKS are not obligated to use Trumps words as the "ULTIMATE TRUTH"... they have their OWN Real Estate experts, and Lawyers, and THEY ultimately DID THEIR DUE DILIGENCE... and MADE THEIR OWN DECISION... BUT, NONE OF THEM brought these charges...
THESE CHARGES were brought by a RADICAL LIBERAL Democrat DA, who HAS a Liberal Agenda to DEFEAT and DESTROY Donald Trump... and THAT is the DEFINITION of the "Weaponization of the Federal Government AGAINST a private citizen" !
What I'm looking forward to is when Trump wins, is the lawsuits HE FILES against these SOB Democrats and their CONTEMPTIBLE Party !!
Also, while the part highlighted in green is also true...under the NY law used in this case that IS NOT a defense...it is completely irrelevant to the pertinent law.
Basically, this law is a "We don't like you so we are going to charge you with a crime for which there is no realistic defense, get a conviction, seize much of your business and fine the hell out of you" law.
This is NOT a federal case, it is a state case using a very strangely written (and rarely used) law so virtually all the typical defenses/processes you are accustomed to are "N/A". Lastly, Trump will not win this case. The finding of guilt has already been handed down by the judge in this case...what is taking place now is basically the penalty phase. Probably the best Trump can hope for is it being overturned on appeal or finding something in the law that violates the US Constitution.
3 Oct 2023 10:48 am
3 Oct 2023 10:53 am
Why would anyone do business in NYC? Would think something speculative like property value would allow for some degree of promotion, of exaggeration. What is sales if not telling customers they can't live without your product and the product you currently have is ****? Do they allow used car sales in NYC?ConsRule » 03 Oct 2023, 7:14 am » wrote: ↑ From what I heard and understood on the news, per the executive law being cited in this case, that is not necessary in order to obtain a conviction. They don't have to prove anyone was harmed, that there was the intent to defraud and the fact that a "sophisticated recipient" were given the statements is not a defense. All it takes, under the law, is that persistent exaggerations were made. The fact lenders did their own due diligence, made informed lending decisions and we completely repaid is irrelevant to the case.
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