THAT is EXACTLY my POINT... what we had when Abortion was at the Federal Level was "ABORTION ON DEMAND".... THERE WERE FEW if ANY Limitations, AND... there were Governors that were pushing for MORE LIBERAL abortions every YEAR... ONE wanted to permit ABORTIONS AFTER BIRTH !!maineman » 05 Oct 2023, 4:33 pm » wrote: ↑ 82% approve of abortion in some form. 13% don't.
Hobbes allows states to outlaw abortion.
82% of the people don't like that.
You can spin it all you want, but Hobbes hurt the GOP and helped the Democrats.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/2 ... n-00103493ConservativeWave » 05 Oct 2023, 6:36 pm » wrote: ↑ THAT is EXACTLY my POINT... what we had when Abortion was at the Federal Level was "ABORTION ON DEMAND".... THERE WERE FEW if ANY Limitations, AND... there were Governors that were pushing for MORE LIBERAL abortions every YEAR... ONE wanted to permit ABORTIONS AFTER BIRTH !!
YOU BRAIN DEAD POS !!
Abortion HAS NOT been OUTLAWED... it HAS BEEN RETURNED to the STATES... where the PEOPLE of those states CAN DECIDE what limitations THEY WANT !! AND... NOT ABORTION ON DEMAND !!
With THOSE poll numbers... it's OBVIOUS who it helped... and it was NOT the Democrats... who have been LOSING support for THEIR "Version" of Abortion... FOR YEARS !!
Who knew Satanists were such fans of murdering babies? Some issues cannot be compromised, abortion and child genital mutilation being two of them.
Neo » 05 Oct 2023, 7:00 pm » wrote: ↑ Who knew Satanists were such fans of murdering babies? Some issues cannot be compromised, abortion and child genital mutilation being two of them.
He could kill a *** in the skreet and gain *** votes.
The GOP never had prochoice women. The democ rats never had prolife women.maineman » 04 Oct 2023, 2:47 pm » wrote: ↑ Your problem is, a whole lot of women see it differently than you do, and they have been showing their displeasure at the GOP and Trump for foisting Hobbes on them in a whole series of special elections and referenda. The GOP shamelessly used Roe as a torch to ignite the passions of their anti-abortion base for decades, and now you'll get to see how that feels when YOU'RE on the other side. Hobbes is the gift that keeps on giving.
Have the polls focused on independent voters? Because those are the only ones who matter in this equation.maineman » 05 Oct 2023, 12:34 pm » wrote: ↑ cool prediction! The polls since the Hobbes decision tell a totally different story, but hold fast to your dreams, little broomstick cowboy!
Hobbs is an under-appreciated bonanza for the abortion tourism industry.maineman » 05 Oct 2023, 4:33 pm » wrote: ↑ 82% approve of abortion in some form. 13% don't.
Hobbes allows states to outlaw abortion.
82% of the people don't like that.
You can spin it all you want, but Hobbes hurt the GOP and helped the Democrats.
Susan Collins claimed to be pro-choice. SO did Olympia Snow. I actually knew several female democratic state legislators in Maine who were from the Lewiston-Auburn area which has a strong French-Canadian Catholic demographic and they were pro-life.Cannonpointer » 05 Oct 2023, 7:20 pm » wrote: ↑ The GOP never had prochoice women. The democ rats never had prolife women.
The democ rats have shamelessly used Roe as a torch to ignite the passions of their pro-abortion base for decades.
The **** hired Neocon, Inc.Cannonpointer » 05 Oct 2023, 7:09 pm » wrote: ↑ He could kill a *** in the skreet and gain *** votes.
He can LITERALLY tell republicans he wants to take the guns and THEN do the due process, and not lose a voter.
The man is not a superman - he is a GOD.
You and I live on different planets.maineman » 05 Oct 2023, 7:36 pm » wrote: ↑ Susan Collins claimed to be pro-choice. SO did Olympia Snow. I actually knew several female democratic state legislators in Maine who were from the Lewiston-Auburn area which has a strong French-Canadian Catholic demographic and they were pro-life.
And I think that The GOP made more out of promising to overturn Roe (which they never tried to do) than the Democrats did. We didn't need Roe to ignite the passion. We had Roe. If anything, pro-choice democrats were mildly complacent because they believed that Roe was settled law
Cannonpointer » 05 Oct 2023, 7:51 pm » wrote: ↑ You and I live on different planets.
Both wings of the uniparty kept their disaffected bases close to home by using roe to create hysteria. We've not seen a democrat campaign since roe was originally ruled on in 1973 that did not threaten women with the loss of abortion rights.
I DO agree with you that the repukes never genuinely tried to do anything about roe. WTF COULD they do? It was a court ruling, FFS.![]()
BOTH "sides" played divide the public and conquer.
The repuke party will not suffer NEARLY so much as their base from this base perfidy.maineman » 05 Oct 2023, 8:09 pm » wrote: ↑ What they could do is exactly what they did do. They elected Trump. They stole a SCOTUS nomination from Obama and gave it to Trump, and he filled that one... AND the Kennedy seat, and then they broke their own rules and stole the RGB nomination from Biden and gave it to Trump and THAT ended Roe. Now they get to deal with Hobbs, and I hope the Democrats cram Hobbs back up their asses.
A few polls. Abortion has been losing favor for decades. Hobbs garnered blowback based on alarmist rhetoric. Rape victims aren't carrying rape babies to term. We are not finding back alley abortion victims dead in gutters. As usual, chicken little progressives blew their wad prematurely and people can see the truth foe themselves.maineman » 05 Oct 2023, 7:08 pm » wrote: ↑ the link disproves his point. don't like it? I don't give a ****.
I am not as confident as you are that SCOTUS justices are true to the party that appointed them. I can provide copious contrary evidence. I believe they are true to their real masters, and these are not the parties that were instructed - by those same masters - to appoint them. I believe the appointment process - while raucous and explosive and equal parts attractive and repulsive - is a puppet show.maineman » 05 Oct 2023, 8:09 pm » wrote: ↑ What they could do is exactly what they did do. They elected Trump. They stole a SCOTUS nomination from Obama and gave it to Trump, and he filled that one... AND the Kennedy seat, and then they broke their own rules and stole the RGB nomination from Biden and gave it to Trump and THAT ended Roe. Now they get to deal with Hobbs, and I hope the Democrats cram Hobbs back up their asses.
Suck you some orange dick, you juvenile traitor.Mrkelly » 03 Oct 2023, 7:14 am » wrote: ↑ we had a thread about this yesterday
and the only proof he had (like you) is tRump saying so
got anything else?
also, tRump is not getting a jury trial because his lawyers didn’t want one
and never asked for one
seems tRump left that part out
They STOLE nominations? How, by following the Biden Rule?maineman » 05 Oct 2023, 8:09 pm » wrote: ↑ What they could do is exactly what they did do. They elected Trump. They stole a SCOTUS nomination from Obama and gave it to Trump, and he filled that one... AND the Kennedy seat, and then they broke their own rules and stole the RGB nomination from Biden and gave it to Trump and THAT ended Roe. Now they get to deal with Hobbs, and I hope the Democrats cram Hobbs back up their asses.
golfboy » 05 Oct 2023, 9:20 pm » wrote: ↑ They STOLE nominations? How, by following the Biden Rule?
And they didn't break any rule with the Coney Barrett nomination.
Well, if you weren't a moron, you would have been paying attention when it happened.
golfboy » 05 Oct 2023, 9:38 pm » wrote: ↑ Well, if you weren't a moron, you would have been paying attention when it happened.