poll do you want the war in ukraine to end?

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By jerra b
5 Oct 2023 11:45 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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jerra b
5 Oct 2023 11:45 am
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do you want the war in ukraine to end?
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PhiloBeddo
5 Oct 2023 11:49 am
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I cannot control that. But we can control sending money. Stop sending money.
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Sumela
5 Oct 2023 11:51 am
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PhiloBeddo » 05 Oct 2023, 11:49 am » wrote: I cannot control that. But we can control sending money. Stop sending money.
LOL, without US $$$ the war was over a year ago.
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Sumela
5 Oct 2023 11:53 am
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I want the war over asap.

But I want Russia to achieve its goals.

1. The de--nazification of Uke
2. The de-militarization of Uke.
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Imperial Wizard
5 Oct 2023 11:53 am
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jerra b
5 Oct 2023 6:12 pm
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I voted yes with russia and ukraine signing a peace pact. also a truce until details and worked and accepted
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Cannonpointer
5 Oct 2023 6:24 pm
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jerrab » 05 Oct 2023, 6:12 pm » wrote: I voted yes with russia and ukraine signing a peace pact. also a truce until details and worked and accepted
The only reason there is a war is that ukraine ignored the LAST agreement. 

They don't need another truce - they could just start honoring the 2014 kiev accords. Problem solved. 
 
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jerra b
5 Oct 2023 6:29 pm
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Cannonpointer » 05 Oct 2023, 6:24 pm » wrote: The only reason there is a war is that ukraine ignored the LAST agreement. 

They don't need another truce - they could just start honoring the 2014 kiev accords. Problem solved.

put that in the agreement.
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walkingstick
5 Oct 2023 8:43 pm
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jerrab » 05 Oct 2023, 11:45 am » wrote: do you want the war in ukraine to end?
walkingstick does not want biden to stop his war in ukraine. WHY? i want usa to continue to go bust. yes BUST!!!! look how china has advanced over the past 20+ years. look how usa has declined over the past 20+ years. only way for usa to advance is by usa to totally self destruct. usa has a congress that can, and is, destroying  usa. reelect them!!! if you are a young usa citizen, pray usa goes down. only then, can they have a prosperous future.
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5 Oct 2023 8:47 pm
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PhiloBeddo » 05 Oct 2023, 11:49 am » wrote: I cannot control that. But we can control sending money. Stop sending money.
Of course we can control it. All we have to do is stop paying for it and bribing that little jewish pretend ukrainian to murder his people. 
 
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Sumela
5 Oct 2023 9:00 pm
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Cannonpointer » 05 Oct 2023, 6:24 pm » wrote: The only reason there is a war is that ukraine ignored the LAST agreement. 

They don't need another truce - they could just start honoring the 2014 kiev accords. Problem solved.
Sir, Minsk Accords.

Both Merkle and Macron admitted they were fake agreements
only intended to make time for NATO to arm Ukraine.

The West can never be trusted.  Putin has finally learned this.  He is an overly patient man.
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5 Oct 2023 9:04 pm
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Sumela » 05 Oct 2023, 9:00 pm » wrote: Sir, Minsk Accords.
Lol - yes, Minsk. 
Sumela » 05 Oct 2023, 9:00 pm » wrote: Both Merkle and Macron admitted they were fake agreements
only intended to make time for NATO to arm Ukraine.

The West can never be trusted.  Putin has finally learned this.  He is an overly patient man.
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jerra b
5 Oct 2023 9:05 pm
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Sumela » 05 Oct 2023, 9:00 pm » wrote: Sir, Minsk Accords.

Both Merkle and Macron admitted they were fake agreements
only intended to make time for NATO to arm Ukraine.

The West can never be trusted.  Putin has finally learned this.  He is an overly patient man.

sorry if i am wrong but france was for saying ukraine can't join nato I think I remember that.
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Sumela
5 Oct 2023 9:09 pm
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jerrab » 05 Oct 2023, 9:05 pm » wrote: sorry if i am wrong but france was for saying ukraine can't join nato I think I remember that.
Sir, West *** spew lots of meaningless ****.

He and Merkle openly admitted Minsk 1/2 were 

simply time saving ruses to arm Ukraine.

Putin now knows nobody in the West is trustworthy
 
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5 Oct 2023 9:16 pm
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jerrab » 05 Oct 2023, 9:05 pm » wrote: sorry if i am wrong but france was for saying ukraine can't join nato I think I remember that.
EVERYONE is against them joining NATO - they're a **** kleptocracy and a failed state. 

But they were being used to manufacture bio-weapons on Putin's border, and they were murdering ethnic Russians in nazi-led ethnic cleansing campaigns. 

NATO was using them, and views them, as a proxy - not as a member state. 
 
 
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An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's

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5 Oct 2023 9:26 pm
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Cannonpointer » 05 Oct 2023, 9:16 pm » wrote: EVERYONE is against them joining NATO - they're a **** kleptocracy and a failed state. 

But they were being used to manufacture bio-weapons on Putin's border, and they were murdering ethnic Russians in nazi-led ethnic cleansing campaigns. 

NATO was using them, and views them, as a proxy - not as a member state.
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Sumela
5 Oct 2023 9:27 pm
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Cannonpointer » 05 Oct 2023, 9:16 pm » wrote: EVERYONE is against them joining NATO - they're a **** kleptocracy and a failed state. 

But they were being used to manufacture bio-weapons on Putin's border, and they were murdering ethnic Russians in nazi-led ethnic cleansing campaigns. 

NATO was using them, and views them, as a proxy - not as a member state.
Jerra seems like a sincere lib sometimes....just misled by naivete. 
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jerra b
5 Oct 2023 9:29 pm
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Sumela » 05 Oct 2023, 9:27 pm » wrote: Jerra seems like a sincere lib sometimes....just misled by naivete.
maybe.

this poll is to get the viewpoints of americans, not american politicians.
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jerra b
5 Oct 2023 9:36 pm
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tulsi gabbard was right tho

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gabbar ... nato-entry

Former Democratic Rep. Tulsi Gabbard tweeted Wednesday as Russian forces moved into Ukraine that the conflict could have possibly been avoided if Russian concerns about Ukraine joining NATO had been previously addressed.

"This war and suffering could have easily been avoided if Biden Admin/NATO had simply acknowledged Russia’s legitimate security concerns regarding Ukraine’s becoming a member of NATO, which would mean US/NATO forces right on Russia’s border," Gabbard tweeted late Wednesday night.
 
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jerra b
5 Oct 2023 9:38 pm
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poli ... -warFormer Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (HI) warned Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is “doing everything that he can to bring us and NATO into this war.”“You heard it from Zelensky himself, talking about the consequences of World War III,” Gabbard noted on Tucker Carlson Tonight on Monday. “The thing is, he has made very clear that that’s where he thinks we are already — that we’re in World War III. Ukraine is the tip of the spear. This is how he justifies demanding — making demands of the United States and all of these NATO countries to equip him with the weapons and aircraft and tanks that the United States and NATO have to go and fight this war that we are in against Russia.”
 
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