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MR-7 » Today, 5:06 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 5:06 pm

did u figure out that the pic is of "Springfield" Ohio? Or, do you need more visual aids?

still shows fake caring about dogs and cats.

jerrab » 9 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

9 minutes ago

still shows fake caring about dogs and cats.

and not doing a damn thing over the made up story

did ya notice? 

tRump was gonna send troops in   

https://i.postimg.cc/fRdn8Gj1/FBB9-EC8- ... -F9-DB.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXAidGQUuns

Harem of limp rich dicks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bjzuSO27fA

jerrab » 05 Oct 2023, 11:45 am » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2023, 11:45 am

do you want the war in ukraine to end?

Did they actually declare war?

DeezerShoove » Yesterday, 9:10 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 9:10 pm

Did they actually declare war?

That's pretty phooking cold..  I think there are north of 100K who died for their country.

jerrab » Yesterday, 7:00 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 7:00 pm

still shows fake caring about dogs and cats.

@MR-7   s neighbors Iguanas make fabulous TACOS!  Out of the people that live there..
 

Where are the Europeans?  They speak of support but provide little.
Ukraine’s skies growing more vulnerable as missile stockpiles dwindle

JohnnyYou » Today, 5:42 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 5:42 am

That's pretty phooking cold..  I think there are north of 100K who died for their country. A number of them were minding their own business in their apartments when the drone hit.  Old folks, children..

Putin began it.. He can end it.

It adds a level of "rules of engagement" if declared.

It's colder when they don't, son.

JohnnyYou » Today, 5:42 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 5:42 am

That's pretty phooking cold..  I think there are north of 100K who died for their country. A number of them were minding their own business in their apartments when the drone hit.  Old folks, children..

Putin began it.. He can end it.

yes and when ukraine finally stops trying to join nato to put missiles on russia's border.

jerrab » 10 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

10 minutes ago

yes and when ukraine finally stops trying to join nato to put missiles on russia's border.

Putin will not stop pushing back at NATO if he gets Ukraine. Poland would be next.

Operation Spider Web was wildly successful and cheap. 

Terrorists could easily ship a nuke into our country in a container. It was one of my biggest fears before the wall fell and the Soviet Union collapsed. I was studying nuclear engineering at the time.. The resurgence of Oppenheimers Nightmare of Tesla's unimaginable horrors with current events is not a positive development from my perspective.

But I get your point, the diplomacy is tricky. Russia is thug city. Us getting down to their level is a precarious situation.

 
 

DeezerShoove » 33 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

33 minutes ago

It adds a level of "rules of engagement" if declared.

It's colder when they don't, son.

Trump said we are going to make the Middle East Great Again now and support Israel with boots on the ground today in an interview. Lindsey Graham is all in there like swimwear on the idea.  Rand Paul... not so much.

Fatso is not so good at keeping us out of wars.  The odds seem to be getting worse daily or better if you are into war profits.
 

JohnnyYou » Today, 4:50 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 4:50 pm

Putin will not stop pushing back at NATO if he gets Ukraine. Poland would be next.

Operation Spider Web was wildly successful and cheap. 

Terrorists could easily ship a nuke into our country in a container. It was one of my biggest fears before the wall fell and the Soviet Union collapsed. I was studying nuclear engineering at the time.. The resurgence of Oppenheimers Nightmare of Tesla's unimaginable horrors with current events is not a positive development from my perspective.

But I get your point, the diplomacy is tricky. Russia is thug city. Us getting down to their level is a precarious situation.

a treaty would be iron clad and become void if broken. trump almost tried to get ukraine to forget about nato but stopped when he saw dollar signs with the minerals deal.

jerrab » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

7 minutes ago

a treaty would be iron clad and become void if broken. trump almost tried to get ukraine to forget about nato but stopped when he saw dollar signs with the minerals deal.

These doom azzes think Greenland is strategically important. It has it's place and may the most habitable environment on Earth in 50 years, But Ukraine's bread basket with ports is critical to creating 4 billion more souls with cell phones getting served daily and the enormous economic prize in 20 years. I did not know the rare earths were there either so I was as dumb as Trump on that issue. I heard a rumor Haiti is also loaded. Guyana evidently has struck black gold.
 
 
 

JohnnyYou » Today, 4:50 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 4:50 pm

Putin will not stop pushing back at NATO if he gets Ukraine. Poland would be next.

Operation Spider Web was wildly successful and cheap. 

Terrorists could easily ship a nuke into our country in a container. It was one of my biggest fears before the wall fell and the Soviet Union collapsed. I was studying nuclear engineering at the time.. The resurgence of Oppenheimers Nightmare of Tesla's unimaginable horrors with current events is not a positive development from my perspective.

But I get your point, the diplomacy is tricky. Russia is thug city. Us getting down to their level is a precarious situation.

https://kyivindependent.com/why-is-ukra ... into-nato/
The previous U.S. administration silently opposed extending a NATO invitation to Ukraine. The current U.S. administration has made its opposition public."You can forget about (NATO membership). That's probably the reason the whole thing (war) started," U.S. President Donald Trump said on Feb. 26 when asked about the potential settlement between Ukraine and Russia.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/what-know ... erals-deal


 Wednesday, April 30, 2025, the United States and Ukraine signed a long-awaited deal to establish a joint investment fund for the reconstruction of Ukraine. The fund will be capitalized, in part, by revenues from future natural resource extraction. The newly signed agreement is a positive step in U.S.-Ukraine relations following contentious meetings between U.S. President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. While more favorable to Ukraine than earlier iterations, the deal’s effectiveness hinges on long-term peace and stable investment conditions. Key barriers include outdated geological surveys, degraded energy infrastructure, and unresolved security risks. The agreement reflects the Trump administration’s transactional approach to mineral diplomacy and may serve as a template for similar deals, such as the emerging U.S.–Democratic Republic of the Congo cooperation framework.

-------------------------------------------when  the mineral deal was signed all negotiations were trashed by trump.
 

jerrab » 12 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

12 minutes ago

https://kyivindependent.com/why-is-ukra ... into-nato/
The previous U.S. administration silently opposed extending a NATO invitation to Ukraine. The current U.S. administration has made its opposition public."You can forget about (NATO membership). That's probably the reason the whole thing (war) started," U.S. President Donald Trump said on Feb. 26 when asked about the potential settlement between Ukraine and Russia.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/what-know ... erals-deal

 Wednesday, April 30, 2025, the United States and Ukraine signed a long-awaited deal to establish a joint investment fund for the reconstruction of Ukraine. The fund will be capitalized, in part, by revenues from future natural resource extraction. The newly signed agreement is a positive step in U.S.-Ukraine relations following contentious meetings between U.S. President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. While more favorable to Ukraine than earlier iterations, the deal’s effectiveness hinges on long-term peace and stable investment conditions. Key barriers include outdated geological surveys, degraded energy infrastructure, and unresolved security risks. The agreement reflects the Trump administration’s transactional approach to mineral diplomacy and may serve as a template for similar deals, such as the emerging U.S.–Democratic Republic of the Congo cooperation framework.

-------------------------------------------when  the mineral deal was signed all negotiations were trashed by trump.

I certainly remember bipartisan reluctance to Ukraine joining NATO at the beginning of the conflict. 

It hasn't happened so here we are..  I have not seen Zelensky begging to join. It's understandable he is begging for support to maintain sovereignty and Bill Clinton did promise to protect Ukraine when they gave the nukes there over to Russia.

One my nuke e teacher was a Ukranian  He was funny dude..  Big and Hairy like Sasquatch.

I had Iranian teachers too which was interesting at the time. They were very smart.
 
 

JohnnyYou » Today, 6:21 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 6:21 pm

I certainly remember bipartisan reluctance to Ukraine joining NATO at the beginning of the conflict. 

It hasn't happened so here we are..  I have not seen Zelensky begging to join. It's understandable he is begging for support to maintain sovereignty and Bill Clinton did promise to protect Ukraine when they gave the nukes there over to Russia.

One of  my nuke e teachers was a Ukrainian  He was a funny dude..  Big and Hairy like Sasquatch. Shared Ukrainian culture snips like Borscht and Vodka in class.

I had Iranian teachers too which was interesting at the time. They were very smart. The department was very international. It's gone now.

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How could Ukraine join NATO?
04:55
CNN — At last year’s NATO summit in Madrid, the alliance formally invited Sweden and Finland to join its ranks. At this year’s summit in Vilnius, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was hoping the alliance would extend his country the same favor.That was not to be. In its final communique, issued Monday evening, NATO claimed that “Ukraine’s future is in NATO” – but did not say when that future could start.Throughout the Russian invasion, Western allies have agonized over whether to approve the next thing Kyiv has asked for: First artillery, then Leopard tanks, then F-16 fighter jets, then cluster munitions. Each time, what seemed to be beyond the pale at first eventually came to be seen by some members as sensible and just.

JohnnyYou » Today, 6:21 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 6:21 pm

I certainly remember bipartisan reluctance to Ukraine joining NATO at the beginning of the conflict. 

It hasn't happened so here we are..  I have not seen Zelensky begging to join. It's understandable he is begging for support to maintain sovereignty and Bill Clinton did promise to protect Ukraine when they gave the nukes there over to Russia.

One of  my nuke e teachers was a Ukrainian  He was a funny dude..  Big and Hairy like Sasquatch. Shared Ukrainian culture snips like Borscht and Vodka in class.

I had Iranian teachers too which was interesting at the time. They were very smart. The department was very international. It's gone now.

https://youtu.be/3qrOddoBPd8?si=ZTOul8qXVYHYeAAO

JohnnyYou » Yesterday, 6:02 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 6:02 pm

These doom azzes think Greenland is strategically important. It has it's place and may the most habitable environment on Earth in 50 years, But Ukraine's bread basket with ports is critical to creating 4 billion more souls with cell phones getting served daily and the enormous economic prize in 20 years. I did not know the rare earths were there either so I was as dumb as Trump on that issue. I heard a rumor Haiti is also loaded. Guyana evidently has struck black gold.

I lose my optimism of 4 billion more people needing refrigeration in my lifetime every day. And at the moment, it really doesn't matter because my small town enterprise in the giant global company is tariffed out off the arena to make any for foreign customers.  Even our sister company in Canada could give us the boot and get all that revenue we have been enjoying helping Canada with global temp increases and cooling requirements.

I can connect a few dots at a time.. but there are way too many and them moving around doesn't help.. But through merger, a parent company has tech and sales in LNG which has to be at -240F cryogenic territory.  The demand is going up to fry the planet like an egg in a  pan on drugs. So there is hope for stuff to build domestically.

more from the link............The deal also counts any future U.S. military assistance to Ukraine in the form of ammunition, weapons systems, or training as a capital contribution to the fund. Additionally, Ukraine will not reimburse Washington for past military aid that was provided. This is a substantive jump from the first iteration of the deal, which called for Ukraine to repay $500 billion in military assistance provided. After the agreement was signed, President Trump restarted military support to Ukraine. The White House approved $50 million in weapons sales to Ukraine on the same day that the agreement was signed.The agreement designates the U.S. International Development Finance Corporation (DFC) as the U.S. partner in the deal. The DFC has been the Trump administration’s go-to agency to handle many of its new critical minerals initiatives. This largely expands the mandate of an agency that only financed four critical minerals projects in 2024.Q2: Does the new deal provide the United States access to Ukraine’s minerals?A2: The signed deal does not entitle the United States to billions of dollars in Ukrainian minerals as repayment for military aid, as Trump originally called for. However, the deal does include a provision for U.S. offtake for future mineral resources on competitive terms://////////////-------------------------------------

trump has zero desire for the war in ukraine to end. for a brief 5 seconds he was going to have ukraine stop trying to join nato, something putin says is important in a truce  but was forgotten when the minerals deal was signed.

JohnnyYou » Yesterday, 6:21 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 6:21 pm

I certainly remember bipartisan reluctance to Ukraine joining NATO at the beginning of the conflict. 

It hasn't happened so here we are..  I have not seen Zelensky begging to join. It's understandable he is begging for support to maintain sovereignty and Bill Clinton did promise to protect Ukraine when they gave the nukes there over to Russia.

One of  my nuke e teachers was a Ukrainian  He was a funny dude..  Big and Hairy like Sasquatch. Shared Ukrainian culture snips like Borscht and Vodka in class.

I had Iranian teachers too which was interesting at the time. They were very smart. The department was very international. It's gone now.

will the mineral deal bring peace to ukraine? I don't think so. russia was counting on some measures to pressure ukraine to not try to join nato so russia's borders would be secure. there could be a peace treaty and a mineral deal but for some reason trump does not think peace is important.  and.......................... A4: Just hours after the United States and Ukraine signed the agreement, a series of Russian missile strikes targeted residential buildings in Odesa, resulting in casualties and injuries. This underscores the severe security risks—ranging from threats to land access to broader human safety—that can deter private sector investment
 
 https://www.csis.org/analysis/what-know ... erals-deal