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JohnnyYou » 15 Jun 2025, 6:21 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jun 2025, 6:21 pm

I certainly remember bipartisan reluctance to Ukraine joining NATO at the beginning of the conflict. 

It hasn't happened so here we are..  I have not seen Zelensky begging to join. It's understandable he is begging for support to maintain sovereignty and Bill Clinton did promise to protect Ukraine when they gave the nukes there over to Russia.

One of  my nuke e teachers was a Ukrainian  He was a funny dude..  Big and Hairy like Sasquatch. Shared Ukrainian culture snips like Borscht and Vodka in class.

I had Iranian teachers too which was interesting at the time. They were very smart. The department was very international. It's gone now.

this is laughable----------------------------------------------------

• Potential security aspect: While the deal doesn't explicitly guarantee US security assistance in the case of a new conflict, some believe that the US having a stake in Ukraine's economy could deter future Russian aggression. . 

jerrab » 16 Jun 2025, 1:22 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jun 2025, 1:22 pm

this is laughable----------------------------------------------------

• Potential security aspect: While the deal doesn't explicitly guarantee US security assistance in the case of a new conflict, some believe that the US having a stake in Ukraine's economy could deter future Russian aggression. . 

Jerra,

My view is my stake in this game but one of 8.1 Billion on a 4.5 Billion year old spaceship.  Borders are imaginary lines to segregate Team Humanity.  I know people hate globalists but the fact of the matter is we live on a phooking globe.  The border is the atmosphere and gravity now. The Meek Shall Inherit the Earth. The Oligawks are going in orbit.

I do appreciate your views.  It is complicated and you definitely see a side my bias won't let me observe.  
 
 
 

jerrab » 16 Jun 2025, 1:02 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jun 2025, 1:02 pm

will the mineral deal bring peace to ukraine? I don't think so. russia was counting on some measures to pressure ukraine to not try to join nato so russia's borders would be secure. there could be a peace treaty and a mineral deal but for some reason trump does not think peace is important.  and.......................... A4: Just hours after the United States and Ukraine signed the agreement, a series of Russian missile strikes targeted residential buildings in Odesa, resulting in casualties and injuries. This underscores the severe security risks—ranging from threats to land access to broader human safety—that can deter private sector investment
 
 https://www.csis.org/analysis/what-know ... erals-deal

Is anyone not at peace in Moscow?  We'll never know. Thumbs up Putin or get  "Thrown out any Window"

The curtain was drawn back 40 years ago.  Trump does not want us peeking out the venetian blinds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBSeEcFiTWA
 
 

I don't care.

To end all intellectual wars this species has to correct its fatal error of believing now isn't eternity when organizing artificial tomorrows daily here.

Every ancestor in each generation gap alive has to navigate living eternally separated per heartbeat added so far.

People saving the humanities never accept life is lived as eternally separate by the moment here.

Universal historical constant in every franchise of humanity operating rule of law now.

JohnnyYou » 17 Jun 2025, 1:35 am » wrote: ↑

17 Jun 2025, 1:35 am

Jerra,

My view is my stake in this game but one of 8.1 Billion on a 4.5 Billion year old spaceship.  Borders are imaginary lines to segregate Team Humanity.  I know people hate globalists but the fact of the matter is we live on a phooking globe.  The border is the atmosphere and gravity now. The Meek Shall Inherit the Earth. The Oligawks are going in orbit.

I do appreciate your views.  It is complicated and you definitely see a side my bias won't let me observe.

I blame biden as well, he had plenty of chances to stop the war in ukraine even before the invasion.

Pedo "Sniffer" Joe had plenty, and I mean plenty, of chances to stop the war in Ukraine. 

jerrab » 05 Oct 2023, 11:45 am » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2023, 11:45 am

do you want the war in ukraine to end?

Yes, but not until Ukraine recaptures its land....and captures Moscow. 
 

jerra b » 18 Jun 2025, 3:34 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2025, 3:34 am

I blame biden as well, he had plenty of chances to stop the war in ukraine even before the invasion.

What is the separation between preventing and stopping? hint it fits between 72 hours 48 is yesterday and tomorrow 7 days a week literally taking place 0 degrees longitude to 180 degrees longitude becomes figurative yesterday when tomorrow arrives 180 degrees of rotation until reaching 360 degrees of rotation in actual 23 hours 56 minutes and 4 seconds each of the annual 365.2422 days northern winter solstice to northern winter solstice same time the other 3 seasonal shifts sustain 8 seasonal changes 4 times a year life never stays same form shaped ancestrally forward now.

God is an intellectual concept of life existing as pure intellect without instinct navigating one's sole time alive so far. Evolution theory involves total sum evolved not current events never same twice.

Satan is the trickster of vernacular tribalism recruiting devil's advocates to mislead every generation gap added forward here so far. Context doesn't replace chromosomes talking as a species limited to ancestral lineages with specific generation gaps left alive daily here.

Corruption continues when nobody alive corrects previous mistakes that became traditional family values of people trying to inherit time when every reproduction is limited to adapting in space daily here. Specific fertilized cell to decomposed corpse.

conception, birth death, decomposed cycle like dawn, noon, dusk, midnight. Winter, spring, summer, fall, earth, wind, water, fire, 16 great great grandparent generation, 8 great grandparent generation, 4 grandparent generation, 2 parent generation, last arriving great great grandchild.

Evolving happens, evolution compares results so far.