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Vegas » 16 Oct 2023, 9:49 am » wrote: it resulted in fatalities? I know it would depend on what state it happened in. However, should their be any penalties? I say no. Usually there are no penalties for hitting jaywalkers who aren't in crosswalks. They put themselves in harm's way. This should be treated the same way. They are putting themselves in harm's way.
Not enough information. If the driver is black and the people being run over are white, no harm no foul. If the driver is white, he is an alt right white nationalist and the people he hit were downtrodden victims of a racist system, so...

Me, I don't stop my car in crowds. WITH crowds, sure. But not IN crowds. Not in THIS racist patriarchy. Soon as I see protestors, I transition on the spot and my trans status gives me the privilege to plow into them - out of fear for my life, you understand...
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Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 2:48 pm » wrote: what if they were protesting drag queens reading to school children?

still OK to mow them down?
Yes, absolutely. 

Tonnage and velocity determine right of way.

If I stop for them, I am abetting kidnap. I ain't no felon, man. 
 
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Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 2:54 pm » wrote: At least you are consistent 

wrong but consistent
Why is he wrong?

You want to kidnap me, bring a gun. I'll play nice. But if I CAN outgun you, I WILL outgun you.

How do I know what is going to happen to me when I stop my car? They are already signaling that they do not respect the law, and they do not respect my rights - are they not?

And if they respect neither law nor rights, why should I risk my fragile health by allowing them to gain physical access to me in a stalled car? 

My dad was murdered in EXACTLY this situation. 
 
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Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 6:06 pm » wrote: no

" here's the reality of what you're intentionally dismissing."

I asked both of them if it was people protesting drag queens reading to children, or a MAGA crowd protesting biden

would they still be OK with some lefty loony drove through the protests?

they both said "yes"

which one of them deserve a medal?
Simple.  I'd give a medal to BOTH!

You see, unlike most liberals, I DON'T enjoy seeing one set of laws for Democrats and another set of laws for Republicans!
Can you make that same claim?  Or do you cheer when Trump gets brought up on phony charges, while legitimate charges against Hunter or Joe Biden aren't, and you cheer again?
 
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Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 3:07 pm » wrote: We’re not talking about walking in front of the bus

we are talking about people’s right to protest in this country 
Woah, woah - that is NOT what you were talking about.

You were talking about people's right to kidnap me - to decide where I am going and not going - where I am staying put.
Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 3:07 pm » wrote: but I guess you are right

protesters shouldn’t inconvenience anyone 

what good would that do? Image
Being kidnapped is more than an inconvenience. Shouting outside my window, making a ruckus - THOSE are an inconvenience. Bringing my vehicle to a stop by using your body as blockage can and will turn you into a speed bump. Your choice. Play stupid games win stupid prizes, I say.
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Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 3:15 pm » wrote: people would move for an ambulance 
Traffic jams are not sentient. Don't play dumb.
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RedheadedStranger » 16 Oct 2023, 3:22 pm » wrote: Another thing they don't seem to get is it's a "right to peacefully assemble"... and impeding traffic and essential services isn't peaceful in the least.
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It is a most uncivil assault, and it begs retribution.
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Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 3:30 pm » wrote: I'm clueless ? 😂

protests are supposed to disrupt 
Are they? Who said that?

Maybe the guy running you down is protesting and disrupting your protest.

Protests that disrupt the GOVERNMENT are one thing. Protest intended to **** your neighbors in the *** are another.

The one thing every asswipe in those crowds has in common is unemployment. What they seem to forget is that the working class feeds their indolence.
Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 3:30 pm » wrote: that how they get results 

stay on the sidewalk or you should be run over 😂

Glad you weren't around during the Vietnam war 😂
My father died in a traffic jam in the vietnam war.
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Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 3:45 pm » wrote: 😂 protests are not meant to disrupt 😂

yes lil feller, they are

why else would they get attention?

stand along the road and say "pretty please, stop the war" 🤪  

you are one of those people that drove by us protesters, giving a thumbs up 

instead of joining us

clueless in Vegas 

if someone drove through a MAGA group protesting biden

you would scream like a mashed cat 😎
I will plow through ANY group that tries to kidnap me - unless they are clearly big enough to stop my forward momentum. In which case I WILL stop, exit my vehicle, say, "Sorry I'm late," and join the protest. 

I may be homicidal, but that does NOT mean I'm not a coward. 

I don't wanna end up like my dad.
 
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LMFAO - I went big screen. Went and got popcorn and watched it AGAIN! :rofl:  
 
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Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 4:10 pm » wrote: like I told Vegas 

protesters would move for an ambulance
My mama told me if I'm going to protest in the street, look both ways or I will get run over.

She also told me that if someone pretends they can create an intelligent traffic jam, they're lying. 
 
 
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Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 4:27 pm » wrote: not sure why these aren't rhetorical 

1 ...  so you think the bill of right's doesn't protect protestors rights?
They HAVE no right to assault me or kidnap me.
Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 4:27 pm » wrote: why do we have laws against murdering people, if anti protesters are allowed to murder people?
Driving is not murdering. Throwing yourself into traffic is suicide.
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Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 4:32 pm » wrote: so

if a group of MAGA people take to the streets to protest a stolen election 

they wouldn't move for an ambulance?

and you would be OK is some loony lefty ran over them with a car?
I don't care WHO runs people over in the road. I just hope SOMEONE does, so I don't have to. 
 
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Cannonpointer » 16 Oct 2023, 7:10 pm » wrote: LMFAO - I went big screen. Went and got popcorn and watched it AGAIN! Image
I love the way they all start chasing the car down the highway every time a couple of these idiots get run over.

I had an 82 year old woman run me over in the Kroger parking lot with her Lincoln about 7 or 8 years ago. Ripped the hide off my right calf and broke my foot in two places. That **** hurt... and no, I wasn't protesting anything. She was just old and didn't see me. 

The EMT's and an ambulance came and ended up taking her to the hospital with a possible heart attack. She thought she had killed me, poor thing. Lol
 
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Z09 » 16 Oct 2023, 4:43 pm » wrote: You have no idea if they'd move for an ambulance.

And I don't think they should be run down.
So the person waiting for that amba-lance should die, then. 

Yeah?
 
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Neo » 16 Oct 2023, 5:12 pm » wrote: Vehicular manslaughter or murder.
Vehicular suicide.
 
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Z09 » 16 Oct 2023, 5:20 pm » wrote: Aren't you the guy that thinks a missile hit the Pentagon and the plane was a fake?
Aren't you the **** who needs to stay on topic?
 
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Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 5:28 pm » wrote: Uggghhh All you want

it damn sure don't cover the right of someone to murder people because they are inconvenienced 

I am disagreeing with you about people having the right to murder people 

I'll answer this butwhatabout 

Driving a vehicle into a crowd of people IS MURDER
Sitting in front of a moving vehicle is suicide.
 
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Z09 » 16 Oct 2023, 5:52 pm » wrote: I agree ..
No matter how aggravated you get
You're a broad. Broads are weak and stupid. We don't EXPECT you to get it. 

I'm surprised at kelly. He's a Mr.
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Zeets2 » 16 Oct 2023, 5:56 pm » wrote: See, here's the reality of what you're intentionally dismissing.

One, there is a video of protesters blocking a main road with them handcuffed  or tied to what looks like an empty metal boat trailer (in Texas, I believe), stopping traffic for miles until a police car tore through it, dragging a few of them along for a few feet, but certainly an action that could have resulted in serious injury or death.  The cops then pulled over and got out to handcuff and arrest those lying in the street.  End of protest.  Period.  
So how can people not believe they can do the same?

Secondly, if I was a person driving, maybe with my wife and kids in the car, and slowed to a stop at the line of protesters, I'd be putting my family in danger of an unruly mob then surrounding my car and becoming a serious threat to our own safety.  And that's all a jury would have to hear to rule that my action in plowing through them was completely justified.

And finally, no one seems to recognize the fact that IF this was found to be legal, even if some protesters were hurt or killed, this kind of stupid **** would stop immediately, and no longer be an issue because protesters wouldn't try it again!

If that were to take place, the driver would deserve a medal!
It was nevady. 

If I'm on the jury, running over speed bumps IS legal.
 
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