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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... -hamas/?n=@

US to send Israel thousands of artillery shells earmarked for Ukraine

Munitions will be rerouted for war against Hamas following terror attack
 

There is one reason only that we would divert missiles from nazikraine to ****: SHORTAGE.

If the US HAD enough for both, it would SEND enough for both. 

Three words: death throes. 
 

This corrupt kleptocratic oligarchy had the CAPACITY to produce a sufficient stockpile of missiles. But it spent that capacity building things the generals say they do not want.

The good news is, if israel needs TANKS, we've got 'em covered.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/201 ... -want.html

The new defense spending bill includes $120 million for tanks that the Army has repeatedly said it doesn't want.

For three years, the Army in numerous Congressional hearings has pushed a plan that essentially would have suspended tank building and upgrades in the U.S. for the first time since World War II. The Army suggested that production lines could be kept open through foreign sales.

Each time, Congress has pushed back. Last week, Congress won again in the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for Fiscal Year 2015.

In a statement, Rep. Mike Turner, R-Ohio, said that Congress "recognizes the necessity of the Abrams tank to our national security and authorizes an additional $120 million for Abrams tank upgrades. This provision keeps the production lines open in Lima, Ohio, and ensures that our skilled, technical workers are protected."

 

Cannonpointer » 22 Oct 2023, 9:31 am » wrote: ↑

22 Oct 2023, 9:31 am

This corrupt kleptocratic oligarchy had the CAPACITY to produce a sufficient stockpile of missiles. But it spent that capacity building things the generals say they do not want.

The good news is, if israel needs TANKS, we've got 'em covered.

So some 8-9 year old news article is important today?? Why, exactly, do you feel that your Democrat Administration in 2015 did something that applies today??
 

After israel has used up all of its stockpiles and all of our remaining stockpiles, russia and china can pretty much do WHAT they want, WHERE they want.

The era of unsustainable empire has begun, girls. Get ready to lift skirt.
 

Beekeeper » 22 Oct 2023, 9:39 am » wrote: ↑

22 Oct 2023, 9:39 am

So some 8-9 year old news article is important today?? Why, exactly, do you feel that my Democrat Administration in 2015 did something that applies today??

I believe your democ rat administration (your admission not mine) has used up our stockpiles while staying the course.

You?
 

Beekeeper » 22 Oct 2023, 9:39 am » wrote: ↑

22 Oct 2023, 9:39 am

So some 8-9 year old news article ... my Democrat Administration...

Here's one more recent. It is perfectly timed, since it is AFTER the ukraine mischief begand but BEFORE the **** stupidity:

https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org ... stockpiles

The United States has provided a staggering volume of military aid to Ukraine since Russia’s invasion began Feb. 24. The Stingers, Javelins, HIMARS, and 155mm howitzer have upended Russia’s invasion, and Ukraine has successfully regained territory in the east.


Behind this operational success lies an uncomfortable reality: the war in Ukraine has left U.S. defense stockpiles significantly depleted. Current inventories do not undergird a national security strategy that continues to support Ukraine while retaining the ability to assist Taiwan in the event of a Chinese invasion.

See that bold part, fruitcake? Good.

NOW ADD ISRAEL. Can you say unsustainable? Practice saying it until you are able.

Cannonpointer » 22 Oct 2023, 9:46 am » wrote: ↑

22 Oct 2023, 9:46 am

Here's one more recent. It is perfectly timed, since it is AFTER the ukraine mischief begand but BEFORE the **** stupidity:

https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org ... stockpiles

See that bold part, fruitcake? Good.

NOW ADD ISRAEL. Can you say unsustainable? Practice saying it until you are able.

You DO realize that your link is to a NATIONAL DEFENSE CONTRACTOR PROPAGANDA SOURCE that is BEGGING for more money, right?? You know, so they can ramp up production with MORE GOVERNMENT MONEY!!

No?? Welp, you better try harder.

Cannonpointer » 22 Oct 2023, 9:46 am » wrote: ↑

22 Oct 2023, 9:46 am

Here's one more recent. It is perfectly timed, since it is AFTER the ukraine mischief begand but BEFORE the **** stupidity:

https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org ... stockpiles

See that bold part, fruitcake? Good.

NOW ADD ISRAEL. Can you say unsustainable? Practice saying it until you are able.

And just so you know, the National Defense "magazine" is published BY the......National Defense Industrial Association

Or NDIA!!

Now that has to suck for you, huh??
 

Cannonpointer » 22 Oct 2023, 9:46 am » wrote: ↑

22 Oct 2023, 9:46 am

Here's one more recent. It is perfectly timed, since it is AFTER the ukraine mischief begand but BEFORE the **** stupidity:

https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org ... stockpiles

See that bold part, fruitcake? Good.

NOW ADD ISRAEL. Can you say unsustainable? Practice saying it until you are able.

Don't you LOVE the "About" section of the NDIA??

The NDIA Policy team monitors, advocates for, and educates government stakeholders on policy matters of importance to the defense industrial base. Our mission is to ensure the continued existence of a viable, competitive national technology and industrial base, strengthen the government-industry partnership through dialogue, and provide interaction between the legislative, executive, and judicial branches. The Policy team also represents NDIA in several inter-association groups representing the defense industry and the government contracting community. Policy staff regularly meet with key policy stakeholders, and manage Congressional interactions with NDIA Chapters and Divisions.

See that BOLD PART!! An ADVOCATE for the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!!

Cannonpointer » 22 Oct 2023, 9:13 am » wrote: ↑

22 Oct 2023, 9:13 am

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... -hamas/?n=@

US to send Israel thousands of artillery shells earmarked for Ukraine

Munitions will be rerouted for war against Hamas following terror attack

We already give them 3 billion a year for defense. Why are we giving them more?

Beekeeper » 22 Oct 2023, 9:59 am » wrote: ↑

22 Oct 2023, 9:59 am

You DO realize that your link is to a NATIONAL DEFENSE CONTRACTOR PROPAGANDA SOURCE that is BEGGING for more money, right?? You know, so they can ramp up production with MORE GOVERNMENT MONEY!!

No?? Welp, you better try harder.

So we are left with no links from you - just complaints. 

Let's talk about the very most RECENT link - since you appear to favor those.

It was the one in the OP. 

The one you HAVEN'T responded to. 

The one that says we're robbing pietrovich to pay saul. Comment once on THAT.
 

Beekeeper » 22 Oct 2023, 10:01 am » wrote: ↑

22 Oct 2023, 10:01 am

And just so you know, the National Defense "magazine" is published BY the......National Defense Industrial Association

Or NDIA!!

Now that has to suck for you, huh??

Not in the least. Hasty links to make a point is more than you merit - especially while you panty dance away from the link in the OP - the one the thread is about.
 

Beekeeper » 22 Oct 2023, 10:04 am » wrote: ↑

22 Oct 2023, 10:04 am

Don't you LOVE the "About" section of the NDIA??

See that BOLD PART!! An ADVOCATE for the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!!

This seems to be the hill you want to die on, son.

Can't say I blame ya. The link in the OP is the tale of the tape, fruitcake. 

It has begun, fruitcake. Soon, you will be instructed to forget ukraine. And you will follow orders, fruit.  
 

Vegas » 22 Oct 2023, 10:31 am » wrote: ↑

22 Oct 2023, 10:31 am

We already give them 3 billion a year for defense. Why are we giving them more?

This is not even the first time we have done this. Many of the shells ukie fired at ruskie came to ukie by way of ****. 

The US war machine is depleted. When we have given the ukes, the taipies and the israelis the last of our missiles, we'll be in line for a comeuppance.

Bear in mind that BOTH of our biggest adversaries have hypersonic missile stockpiles, while we are running out of supersonic missiles. American supremacy is a myth that wears thin in the world where most countries have better and more modern infrastructure than we do. Ours was built 70, 80, and 90 years ago, and the entitled grandchildren of those who built it have refused simply to maintain it - while the rest of the world caught up and then passed us. 

Now, if you will excuse me, I have an important debate about pronouns that simply cannot wait.
 

Cannonpointer » 22 Oct 2023, 9:17 am » wrote: ↑

22 Oct 2023, 9:17 am

There is one reason only that we would divert missiles from nazikraine to ****: SHORTAGE.

If the US HAD enough for both, it would SEND enough for both. 

Three words: death throes. 
 

So Russia and China supplying Hamas is different? this species has all kinds of separate ancestral lineages that evolved from separate geographical areas, and it is still intellectually the same species. yet every society by context is willing to eliminate any other not abiding by possibilities life cannot only happen being eternally separated since conceived individually here now.

Everyone expects each rotation off the planet being another day in the life as the world turns soap operas of people willingly ignore their specificity of being alive now.

the specificity of what I say matches every and any lifetime native to this atmosphere. Everyone obeying reasonable doubt each generation alive says I am out of touch with their reality and their ancestral time adapting as displaced here.

Like you do.

Cannonpointer » 22 Oct 2023, 9:40 am » wrote: ↑

22 Oct 2023, 9:40 am

After israel has used up all of its stockpiles and all of our remaining stockpiles, russia and china can pretty much do WHAT they want, WHERE they want.

The era of unsustainable empire has begun, girls. Get ready to lift skirt.

Wasn't that the whole point of Biden and  Trudeau and  their WEF handler's destabilization of Europe  via suckering NATO into depleting all of their weapon stockpiles as well as having them go into further debt by throwing billions at the Ukraine that they will never be able to be repaid for ?
People need to look at the big picture surrounding this administration and realize that everything it has done since coming into power is not policies of ineptitude or incompetence by a political cabal that currently sits in the Whitehouse. ...
But to bring about the down fall and unsustainability of our once great country for an agenda that will ultimately bring this county down to third world status ....
In other words .....
it's all being done  intentionally. ...
And America needs to wake up to that fact ......


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Cannonpointer » 22 Oct 2023, 10:38 am » wrote: ↑

22 Oct 2023, 10:38 am

This seems to be the hill you want to die on, son.

Can't say I blame ya. The link in the OP is the tale of the tape, fruitcake. 

It has begun, fruitcake. Soon, you will be instructed to forget ukraine. And you will follow orders, fruit.

He will switch gears on a dime when instructed to do so.

Ans he still cant Ukraine on a map  
 

Sumela » 22 Oct 2023, 11:36 am » wrote: ↑

22 Oct 2023, 11:36 am

LOL

exactly!